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I have made a couple of minor corrections; essentially that Edward was not empowered to choose from the candidates, but to administer the process of the court; the decision was down to the jurors. Chris Brown.
While the Competitors article was good, it was mistaken when it said King Edward I of England had no claim on the Scots throne, in fact, his claim was superior to that of John the Black Comyn, He descending from King Malcolm III`s daughter Edith, wife of King Henry I of England, their daughter Maud was the mother of Henry II, grandmother of John, Great Grandmother of Henry III, and 2nd Great Grandmother of Edward I.
The article lacks any kind of synopsis, and instead has, as an introduction, something that approximates a "Hollywood" teaser trailer. The introductory two paragraphs should condense the essential elements of the article. 50n0m4 01:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Recently, User:Surtsicna has removed the names of all the fathers of the claimants to the throne of Scotland. I found this to be an odd move, not only because patrilineal descent was so important to making claims to birthright and property in the medieval world, but also because it would be odd to list only one of their parents and not the other. In fact, both matrilineal and patrilineal lines were used by medieval rulers and nobles to make arguments about birthrights to feudal lands and properties. It wouldn't take one long to realize this after merely reading this article, let alone making a thorough examination of the historical record.
I invite Surtsicna to make a rebuttal, but I would ask that this issue be discussed first before making another radical cutting of arguably relevant information from the article. Pericles of Athens Talk 15:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, I would first like to ask why you reverted all of my edits, including improvements of grammar, style and orthography? Now, the fact that one of Floris V of Holland's great-great-grandfathers was Floris III of Holland has absolutely nothing to do with Floris V's claim to the crown of Scotland. Absolutely nothing. The fact that one of his ancestresses was Ada of Scotland is relevant, though. The fact that she was the wife of Floris III of Holland is again irrelevant. If you take a closer look, you will see that:
For Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford the article says "He didnt make a claim for the throne as it would be a conflict of interest but had the strongest claim after John Balliol." How does that make any sense? He was a descendant of David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon's sister Margaret, so Bruce, Balliol and Hastings would have had a better claim than him because they descend directly from David. Even if one is to argue proximity of blood, Humphrey is one of the farthest down in the line since so many generations separate him from his Scottish ancestors.-- The Emperor's New Spy ( talk) 22:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Current article name feels rather ambiguous and would be better changed to something like Succession of Margaret, Maid of Norway? FlagSteward ( talk) 12:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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I have made a couple of minor corrections; essentially that Edward was not empowered to choose from the candidates, but to administer the process of the court; the decision was down to the jurors. Chris Brown.
While the Competitors article was good, it was mistaken when it said King Edward I of England had no claim on the Scots throne, in fact, his claim was superior to that of John the Black Comyn, He descending from King Malcolm III`s daughter Edith, wife of King Henry I of England, their daughter Maud was the mother of Henry II, grandmother of John, Great Grandmother of Henry III, and 2nd Great Grandmother of Edward I.
The article lacks any kind of synopsis, and instead has, as an introduction, something that approximates a "Hollywood" teaser trailer. The introductory two paragraphs should condense the essential elements of the article. 50n0m4 01:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Recently, User:Surtsicna has removed the names of all the fathers of the claimants to the throne of Scotland. I found this to be an odd move, not only because patrilineal descent was so important to making claims to birthright and property in the medieval world, but also because it would be odd to list only one of their parents and not the other. In fact, both matrilineal and patrilineal lines were used by medieval rulers and nobles to make arguments about birthrights to feudal lands and properties. It wouldn't take one long to realize this after merely reading this article, let alone making a thorough examination of the historical record.
I invite Surtsicna to make a rebuttal, but I would ask that this issue be discussed first before making another radical cutting of arguably relevant information from the article. Pericles of Athens Talk 15:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, I would first like to ask why you reverted all of my edits, including improvements of grammar, style and orthography? Now, the fact that one of Floris V of Holland's great-great-grandfathers was Floris III of Holland has absolutely nothing to do with Floris V's claim to the crown of Scotland. Absolutely nothing. The fact that one of his ancestresses was Ada of Scotland is relevant, though. The fact that she was the wife of Floris III of Holland is again irrelevant. If you take a closer look, you will see that:
For Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford the article says "He didnt make a claim for the throne as it would be a conflict of interest but had the strongest claim after John Balliol." How does that make any sense? He was a descendant of David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon's sister Margaret, so Bruce, Balliol and Hastings would have had a better claim than him because they descend directly from David. Even if one is to argue proximity of blood, Humphrey is one of the farthest down in the line since so many generations separate him from his Scottish ancestors.-- The Emperor's New Spy ( talk) 22:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Current article name feels rather ambiguous and would be better changed to something like Succession of Margaret, Maid of Norway? FlagSteward ( talk) 12:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)