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The comparison as it stands today is of limited use since only a small number of features are discussed and the differences appear only minor. A lesser problem is the limited number of mail clients listed. Linux Weekly News made an overview http://lwn.net/Articles/72937/ that should give ideas on useful features to list. It will be also useful to add in which version the feature was introduced.
Someone has just placed half a dozen new columns in the 'features' list. Some are probably useful, some look redundant, and the are all unreadable at the moment. Any thoughts on how to group them? DStaal 14:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see total mailbox size comparison. Evolution breaks at 2GB, Thunderbird starts losing emails around 4GB, etc... Which email supports database backend would also be useful information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.253.135.218 ( talk) 10:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I went to this page to find out some information about the "darling of the moment", Mailody but no one seems to have added it yet. If someone has used this client and knows a bit about it, can you please add it in?
I have even heard it may eventually replace Kmail in Kontact, though it is an IMAP-only client at this stage, with no plans by the chief developer to add POP3 support. Thanks. 211.26.1.6 05:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I think these "security comparisons" were really only added to bash an MS product. First of all, it is misleading to use vulnerability counts as a measure of security. This is an encyclopedia and really, adding such a vuln count would require too many qualifications regarding what they mean to the point where it would become meaningless to include. Second of all, these vulnerability counts are just flat out WRONG. The search engine for bugtraq, when you select by vendor and product name, doesn't work that well for a lot of products. You need to do a keyword search. A simple keyword search for "thunderbird" or "The bat" reveals many results. See this advisory as an example of an "extremely critical" vulnerability in Thunderbird.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptomes ( talk • contribs)
Object: Support: The two articles offer different information. All of the clients in the list are not included in the comparison (unfortunately) and are also categorized. Note that several other comparisons and lists are separate as well such as
Comparison of web browsers/
List of web browsers and
Comparison of media players/
List of media players. It is odd that the person who requested the merge, and therefore opened this discussion, didn't even feel the need to state their reasoning here. --
Kamasutra 06:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Object: From reviewing the List... and Comparison... articles referenced above by Kamasutra, I presume their separation by category was in anticipation of the articles becoming particularly long and unwieldy. Looking at the Comparison of Web Browsers in particular, it is far more robust than the Comparison of E-Mail Clients, comparing several more categories of features than the latter. Assuming that the Comparison of E-Mail Clients will be expanding (e.g. to include comparisons of encryption integration, message managment, etc.) then the separation of the List from the Comparison remains in order. -- Theaphro 03:54, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
On the Comparison of web browsers page, the consensus was that open source can't be counted as an advantage. Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 02:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether webmail clients/frontends should be listed in the presence of these applications, but perhaps a page forked from here showing webmail clients such as SquirrelMail, RoundCube, and perhaps more commercial examples as GMail, Hotmail, YahooMail, and Exchange OWA... though those also include storage whereas the first can act simply as a client via imap/smtp. (comment by ..unknown..)
Yeah, I agree completely. This page is clearly for "client side applications" (ala client side programs in the client-server software paradigm). "gmail" is not listed in this page, so neither should any "webmail service/interface". And on that note, I'm removing @Mail entirely. It does not have a client side application. It should be on whatever "webmail services/interfaces" page comes out of what you are thinking of. (I'm trying to find a new client, and I've wasted 5 minutes carefully reading all about @Mail just to find it does NOT have a client side application. Hence all the question marks in the one table..)
Hmmm, but then what do we do for people who want to compare the features between *any* e-mail service? In any case, the current listing for @Mail is nothing but lines of question marks! CraigWyllie ( talk) 22:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, it'd be real nice if there was a way to make all the tables dynamically collapse and only show subsets of clients that match given criteria. A few of the clients are no longer under active development and/or are unsupported, and some are text based only. Some kind of selection box at the top that affects all that displays below. 67.70.62.36 ( talk) 22:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
The entries for S/MIME and PGP support are very questionable. There is a big difference between a mail client that offers native support for security and one where it is provided through a plug-in. Plug-ins are a bitch to maintain and effectively preclude most enterprise deployments. Most individual users never know they exist.
This is important because if I send an S/MIME signed message there is a very high probability that the recipient will have an email client that is capable of reading it and verifying the signature. The same is not true for PGP. Practically any client with an extension interface can be made to do either. We could easily lose the OCSP/CRL entries which I suspect are wrong in any case (Outlook and Outlook express will both use OCSP if the base Windows O/S is configured for OCSP checking. -- 66.31.39.76 00:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I added a column for "Message file format": mbox, maildir or proprietary; which I think is a core matter. The tables have a lot of features that don't mean much to me, but I would like information about abilities to import/export varioius msg file formats, or what tools can convert between what formats. * * * I don't understand the column "Fragmented attachments". If this is what I would call "stores attachments as individual files" it needs to be renamed or footnoted, and should be bumped over near the "Message file format" column. I'm going to copy over some discussion source material, below. 69.87.193.176 16:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Of the most popular and commonly used MUA's out there, here's a breakdown of the mail formats they use:
While there are MUA's that do use maildir, maildir and maildir++ have mostly been deployed on the server side for IMAP mail servers. {end of quoted copy from Talk:Mbox by anon}
This is a great page of data, but to my mind its far to much to be useful for my purpose, which is deciding which client i should get ... I just wonder if there was somebody competent at this sort of thing, who was able to edit it so that one could systematically hide aspects (I mean, rows or columns) of it as a reader decided they were irrelevant and cluttering up his simple picture of the world? i.e. if a feature is uninteresting (e.g. "server capabilities") or of great interest (e.g. "free"), it could be excluded, and if a particular client or operating system had already been rejected, it could be removed from the screen. It occurs to me that this might seem to fall outside the mandate of the wiki, but perhaps it shouldn't: I'm thinking information analysis (data mining?) is what I used the wiki for all the time.
May I request when people are editing this page that they always state what program their changes refer to in the 'Edit summary'. With most of the data contained in tables it is a nightmare knowing what every change refers to when all you see is ((yes)) Dsergeant 18:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Might I suggest a section in talk for this? When you're making changes to entries in tables, the normal edit summary space is a bit confining, since you're talking about "changed '?' to "Yes"/"No" for n sections. Johncwelch ( talk) 04:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that column is misleading and confusing. That implies that the "client" is what runs the spam filtering on the "server". That confusing. There is a number of clients that read the X-Headers from spam filtering software and use them in their own filtering if they have any. Some clients allow you to adjust the spam filtering controls on specific servers (Outlook/Outlook web access + Exchange or GroupWise Client + GroupWise for example). However when a client is using the basic well known protocols (like IMAP & POP3) they have no influence over what the server does. If no body objects, I come back in a few days and drop that column. ZacBowling talk 03:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I have been trying without success to verify the release date of Eudora. The oldest archival record of the company home page is dated June 09 1997. At this time Eudora Lite 3.1 had been released but this was not the oldest public release. QUALLCOM support documments trouble shooting steps applying to both 3.x and 2.x versions here. An English version 2.0.x updater for windows stored at their ftp site reports a modification date of October 27, 1994. A file claimed to be Eudora 1.0 for windows stored here reports a modification date of Feb. 02, 1993. While I will not change the date based on these facts alone the evidence seems to suggest an older public release date than 1996. Phatom87 01:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not true that mutt's handling of HTML email is read-only, or if it is, then one can say the same about plain text emails. It will send anything you create with your external editor in the mime type you specify. I changed the cell contents to “external” to reflect that, and also the fact that the display of HTML messages is also handled by an external program. -- 89.176.54.194 21:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I think google mail should be added to the comaparison but I don't know enough about it to add it to this list myself. I was wondering if someone could add it. -- Jhfireboy Talk 18:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
What he said. I kept scrolling through the list thinking Where the @#$% is Gmail? 64.212.128.3 ( talk) 21:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Google is not an e-mail client. Gmail offers web-based email services but it's not a client in the sense that you can use it to access an email server (i.e. a POP3 or IMAP server). -- Nneuman ( talk) 10:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This link http://www.imap.org/products/ does not (longer?) exists. -- 213.243.130.27 14:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
CommuniGate Pro CommuniGate Systems Free {5 user license} GPL
I think that CommuniGate Pro is not GPL as table claims. -- 213.243.130.27 14:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Eudora allows folders in folders. OR, just mail in a folder (mailbox). But, Eudora does NOT allow both mail AND folders to be mixed, in a given directory tree node. Very frustrating. The article does not seem to mention this aspect. I assume almost all other email clients do not have this limitation?- 69.87.202.94 11:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Why isn't Scalix included anywhere in this document? http://www.scalix.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.46.212.62 ( talk) 19:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And I have to wonder why there are so many programs listed that I've never heard of, despite a thorough search for a new e-mail client. I guess that's the downside of this type of website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.124.188 ( talk) 02:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are Becky! Mail not listed here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky%21 http://www.rimarts.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.72.215.200 ( talk) 12:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see Gammadyne Corporation's email client, Clyton, added to the article. The home page is here: [1] -- Grozo ( talk) 07:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Any? wtf, should be free? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.167.107.251 ( talk) 17:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
if you try to sort the protocol table, than the table gets mashed up.. Looks like javascript sorting script problem.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.158.147.229 ( talk) 12:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a disagreement whether Alpine is a web-based email client or not. I don't know Alpine very well but the Wikipedia article on it as well as its homepage only indicate a non web-based version. Mabdul ( talk) however seems to insist that it belongs in the section of web-based e-mail clients. Maybe somebody can shed some light on that? -- Nneuman ( talk) 18:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Same issue with Pine actually. There does seem to be a web-based version of it but it's only "available to individuals associated with the University of Washington (students, faculty, etc.)" (see Pine (e-mail client)). Furthermore Pine "is no longer under development, and has been replaced by the new Alpine client." Therefore I don't think it belongs listed here in the section of web-based clients. -- Nneuman ( talk) 19:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Lots of different things here. The old programs:
And the new ones:
People have used "Pine" and "Alpine" to refer to:
Alpine is distributed as source code that can be used to compile Unix Alpine, PC-Alpine, and Web Alpine.
-- Karnesky ( talk) 00:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
The chart should indicate whether users have the ability to disable (or ignore) JavaScript in inbound e-mail messages. For incoming e-mail, a client may:
The first three options are best.
[In software designed for a multi-user environment (especially medium-to-large business), the client may also allow the administrative or "root" user to set the default or to "lock it down."]
69.140.152.55 ( talk) 00:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
The chart should indicate whether or not the software supports delivery receipts (i.e., the ability to request successful delivery status notifications).
69.140.152.55 ( talk) 00:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I have spent the afternoon researching email clients that support multiple accounts. There are several levels of support:
Page Notes ( talk) 22:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Eudora is, as far as I know, no longer for sale and is definitely not being updated. Penelope is not "the next release." Penelope is an apparently abandoned skin for Thunderbird. Odysseus is not mentioned - perhaps intentionally since it is still in beta, but it is far closer to release than Penelope. Odysseus is a new cross-platform "Eudora clone." PowerMail, a moderately popular proprietary solution which is still supported, appears to be missing. So is GyazMail but the latter is more understandable. Good to see Mulberry on the list. Does anyone want me to add Odysseus and PowerMail, and what should be done with the current listing of Eudora? 71.172.41.61 ( talk) 23:28, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Your comments about Penelope are not entirely accurate. Penelope is the open source, Mozilla Thunderbird based, "official replacement" for Eudora (see Penelope Project) and is being developed by some of the original Qualcomm Eudora developers. It is also mentioned directly on the Eudora main page. It is very much alive and well as a project, not abandoned. If fact you'll see that they have released the fourth beta of Penelope. Seeing that Odysseus is also in beta I would say that they are at the same stage, might even say that Penelope is ahead since it has the strong backing of Qualcomm, Mozilla and several Eudora developers so it definitely will result in a production release soon. Penelope also has a very significant advantage in that it is based on very good Mozilla Thunderbird technology and is open source and free of licensing costs!
As far as updating the table I think you should add Odysseus and Penelope and keep Eudora reflecting its last release 7.1 2 years ago. I still use Eudora today and I'm sure many others do also. Lbecque ( talk) 19:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The features charts are missing the most important feature that I was looking to compare; what MS Outlook calls 'rules' and Eudora calls actions on 'filters'. Actually, Eudora's use of the word filters is different from most email clients where the filters simply affect what email you are viewing. In Eudora filters (and Outlook rules) you use filters to select messages and perform some sort of action like filing in a folder, deleting, etc. which help you to automate your handling of mail and reduction of SPAM. I especially like the ability in Eudora to work with a POP3 server and based on a filter action only delete certain messages from the server while leaving the rest both on the server and the local inbox. I haven't found any other mail client that can do that. Lbecque ( talk) 20:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The features chart should contain the supported formats for the import/export of emails. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.84.1.11 ( talk) 08:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
With the growing popularity of Gnome as a part of Ubuntu Linux, Evolution is also growing more popular. I think it should be included (and am too busy to add it myself). Cheers, BNutzer ( talk) 08:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
In common with other similar lists, I'll shortly begin removing non-notable entries that don't have an associated article. Greenman ( talk) 16:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Conspicuous by its absence is America On Line, or AOL. I've never used it, but millions have, and I personally know many people who continue to do so. How could this have been overlooked, or, was it removed by someone out of spite? — Quicksilver T @ 22:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
It would be nice to add a column to features if the e-mail client supports offline email reading. This is especially a question for IMAP: if the mail client supports downloaded copies of emails for offline reading and answer. -- 194.82.50.2 ( talk) 21:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
93.130.173.230 ( talk) 18:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Roundcube appears in the first comparison chart, but none of the subsequent charts. I notice that there is a discussion below about including RoundCube at all, but it remains included in the first chart. If you want to include it (and I think that it should) more information needs to be added regarding it to the additional charts.
Thanks. - Smaug 22:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
It is a very important to know if the email client is able to backup and restore my personal settings like email accounts, and configurations.
I am migrating out of MS Outlook because every time I format my windows (every six months) I have to create again each of my 16 email accounts, and rules, and configure my usage preferences again.
Lotus Notes has this feature, but all the rest is awful.
So, we need a column showing which email client is able to make a backup of configuration settings and email accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunoschroeder ( talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
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The comparison as it stands today is of limited use since only a small number of features are discussed and the differences appear only minor. A lesser problem is the limited number of mail clients listed. Linux Weekly News made an overview http://lwn.net/Articles/72937/ that should give ideas on useful features to list. It will be also useful to add in which version the feature was introduced.
Someone has just placed half a dozen new columns in the 'features' list. Some are probably useful, some look redundant, and the are all unreadable at the moment. Any thoughts on how to group them? DStaal 14:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see total mailbox size comparison. Evolution breaks at 2GB, Thunderbird starts losing emails around 4GB, etc... Which email supports database backend would also be useful information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.253.135.218 ( talk) 10:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I went to this page to find out some information about the "darling of the moment", Mailody but no one seems to have added it yet. If someone has used this client and knows a bit about it, can you please add it in?
I have even heard it may eventually replace Kmail in Kontact, though it is an IMAP-only client at this stage, with no plans by the chief developer to add POP3 support. Thanks. 211.26.1.6 05:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I think these "security comparisons" were really only added to bash an MS product. First of all, it is misleading to use vulnerability counts as a measure of security. This is an encyclopedia and really, adding such a vuln count would require too many qualifications regarding what they mean to the point where it would become meaningless to include. Second of all, these vulnerability counts are just flat out WRONG. The search engine for bugtraq, when you select by vendor and product name, doesn't work that well for a lot of products. You need to do a keyword search. A simple keyword search for "thunderbird" or "The bat" reveals many results. See this advisory as an example of an "extremely critical" vulnerability in Thunderbird.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptomes ( talk • contribs)
Object: Support: The two articles offer different information. All of the clients in the list are not included in the comparison (unfortunately) and are also categorized. Note that several other comparisons and lists are separate as well such as
Comparison of web browsers/
List of web browsers and
Comparison of media players/
List of media players. It is odd that the person who requested the merge, and therefore opened this discussion, didn't even feel the need to state their reasoning here. --
Kamasutra 06:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Object: From reviewing the List... and Comparison... articles referenced above by Kamasutra, I presume their separation by category was in anticipation of the articles becoming particularly long and unwieldy. Looking at the Comparison of Web Browsers in particular, it is far more robust than the Comparison of E-Mail Clients, comparing several more categories of features than the latter. Assuming that the Comparison of E-Mail Clients will be expanding (e.g. to include comparisons of encryption integration, message managment, etc.) then the separation of the List from the Comparison remains in order. -- Theaphro 03:54, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
On the Comparison of web browsers page, the consensus was that open source can't be counted as an advantage. Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 02:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether webmail clients/frontends should be listed in the presence of these applications, but perhaps a page forked from here showing webmail clients such as SquirrelMail, RoundCube, and perhaps more commercial examples as GMail, Hotmail, YahooMail, and Exchange OWA... though those also include storage whereas the first can act simply as a client via imap/smtp. (comment by ..unknown..)
Yeah, I agree completely. This page is clearly for "client side applications" (ala client side programs in the client-server software paradigm). "gmail" is not listed in this page, so neither should any "webmail service/interface". And on that note, I'm removing @Mail entirely. It does not have a client side application. It should be on whatever "webmail services/interfaces" page comes out of what you are thinking of. (I'm trying to find a new client, and I've wasted 5 minutes carefully reading all about @Mail just to find it does NOT have a client side application. Hence all the question marks in the one table..)
Hmmm, but then what do we do for people who want to compare the features between *any* e-mail service? In any case, the current listing for @Mail is nothing but lines of question marks! CraigWyllie ( talk) 22:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, it'd be real nice if there was a way to make all the tables dynamically collapse and only show subsets of clients that match given criteria. A few of the clients are no longer under active development and/or are unsupported, and some are text based only. Some kind of selection box at the top that affects all that displays below. 67.70.62.36 ( talk) 22:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
The entries for S/MIME and PGP support are very questionable. There is a big difference between a mail client that offers native support for security and one where it is provided through a plug-in. Plug-ins are a bitch to maintain and effectively preclude most enterprise deployments. Most individual users never know they exist.
This is important because if I send an S/MIME signed message there is a very high probability that the recipient will have an email client that is capable of reading it and verifying the signature. The same is not true for PGP. Practically any client with an extension interface can be made to do either. We could easily lose the OCSP/CRL entries which I suspect are wrong in any case (Outlook and Outlook express will both use OCSP if the base Windows O/S is configured for OCSP checking. -- 66.31.39.76 00:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I added a column for "Message file format": mbox, maildir or proprietary; which I think is a core matter. The tables have a lot of features that don't mean much to me, but I would like information about abilities to import/export varioius msg file formats, or what tools can convert between what formats. * * * I don't understand the column "Fragmented attachments". If this is what I would call "stores attachments as individual files" it needs to be renamed or footnoted, and should be bumped over near the "Message file format" column. I'm going to copy over some discussion source material, below. 69.87.193.176 16:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Of the most popular and commonly used MUA's out there, here's a breakdown of the mail formats they use:
While there are MUA's that do use maildir, maildir and maildir++ have mostly been deployed on the server side for IMAP mail servers. {end of quoted copy from Talk:Mbox by anon}
This is a great page of data, but to my mind its far to much to be useful for my purpose, which is deciding which client i should get ... I just wonder if there was somebody competent at this sort of thing, who was able to edit it so that one could systematically hide aspects (I mean, rows or columns) of it as a reader decided they were irrelevant and cluttering up his simple picture of the world? i.e. if a feature is uninteresting (e.g. "server capabilities") or of great interest (e.g. "free"), it could be excluded, and if a particular client or operating system had already been rejected, it could be removed from the screen. It occurs to me that this might seem to fall outside the mandate of the wiki, but perhaps it shouldn't: I'm thinking information analysis (data mining?) is what I used the wiki for all the time.
May I request when people are editing this page that they always state what program their changes refer to in the 'Edit summary'. With most of the data contained in tables it is a nightmare knowing what every change refers to when all you see is ((yes)) Dsergeant 18:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Might I suggest a section in talk for this? When you're making changes to entries in tables, the normal edit summary space is a bit confining, since you're talking about "changed '?' to "Yes"/"No" for n sections. Johncwelch ( talk) 04:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that column is misleading and confusing. That implies that the "client" is what runs the spam filtering on the "server". That confusing. There is a number of clients that read the X-Headers from spam filtering software and use them in their own filtering if they have any. Some clients allow you to adjust the spam filtering controls on specific servers (Outlook/Outlook web access + Exchange or GroupWise Client + GroupWise for example). However when a client is using the basic well known protocols (like IMAP & POP3) they have no influence over what the server does. If no body objects, I come back in a few days and drop that column. ZacBowling talk 03:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I have been trying without success to verify the release date of Eudora. The oldest archival record of the company home page is dated June 09 1997. At this time Eudora Lite 3.1 had been released but this was not the oldest public release. QUALLCOM support documments trouble shooting steps applying to both 3.x and 2.x versions here. An English version 2.0.x updater for windows stored at their ftp site reports a modification date of October 27, 1994. A file claimed to be Eudora 1.0 for windows stored here reports a modification date of Feb. 02, 1993. While I will not change the date based on these facts alone the evidence seems to suggest an older public release date than 1996. Phatom87 01:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not true that mutt's handling of HTML email is read-only, or if it is, then one can say the same about plain text emails. It will send anything you create with your external editor in the mime type you specify. I changed the cell contents to “external” to reflect that, and also the fact that the display of HTML messages is also handled by an external program. -- 89.176.54.194 21:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I think google mail should be added to the comaparison but I don't know enough about it to add it to this list myself. I was wondering if someone could add it. -- Jhfireboy Talk 18:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
What he said. I kept scrolling through the list thinking Where the @#$% is Gmail? 64.212.128.3 ( talk) 21:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Google is not an e-mail client. Gmail offers web-based email services but it's not a client in the sense that you can use it to access an email server (i.e. a POP3 or IMAP server). -- Nneuman ( talk) 10:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This link http://www.imap.org/products/ does not (longer?) exists. -- 213.243.130.27 14:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
CommuniGate Pro CommuniGate Systems Free {5 user license} GPL
I think that CommuniGate Pro is not GPL as table claims. -- 213.243.130.27 14:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Eudora allows folders in folders. OR, just mail in a folder (mailbox). But, Eudora does NOT allow both mail AND folders to be mixed, in a given directory tree node. Very frustrating. The article does not seem to mention this aspect. I assume almost all other email clients do not have this limitation?- 69.87.202.94 11:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Why isn't Scalix included anywhere in this document? http://www.scalix.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.46.212.62 ( talk) 19:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
And I have to wonder why there are so many programs listed that I've never heard of, despite a thorough search for a new e-mail client. I guess that's the downside of this type of website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.124.188 ( talk) 02:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are Becky! Mail not listed here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky%21 http://www.rimarts.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.72.215.200 ( talk) 12:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see Gammadyne Corporation's email client, Clyton, added to the article. The home page is here: [1] -- Grozo ( talk) 07:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Any? wtf, should be free? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.167.107.251 ( talk) 17:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
if you try to sort the protocol table, than the table gets mashed up.. Looks like javascript sorting script problem.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.158.147.229 ( talk) 12:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be a disagreement whether Alpine is a web-based email client or not. I don't know Alpine very well but the Wikipedia article on it as well as its homepage only indicate a non web-based version. Mabdul ( talk) however seems to insist that it belongs in the section of web-based e-mail clients. Maybe somebody can shed some light on that? -- Nneuman ( talk) 18:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Same issue with Pine actually. There does seem to be a web-based version of it but it's only "available to individuals associated with the University of Washington (students, faculty, etc.)" (see Pine (e-mail client)). Furthermore Pine "is no longer under development, and has been replaced by the new Alpine client." Therefore I don't think it belongs listed here in the section of web-based clients. -- Nneuman ( talk) 19:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Lots of different things here. The old programs:
And the new ones:
People have used "Pine" and "Alpine" to refer to:
Alpine is distributed as source code that can be used to compile Unix Alpine, PC-Alpine, and Web Alpine.
-- Karnesky ( talk) 00:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
The chart should indicate whether users have the ability to disable (or ignore) JavaScript in inbound e-mail messages. For incoming e-mail, a client may:
The first three options are best.
[In software designed for a multi-user environment (especially medium-to-large business), the client may also allow the administrative or "root" user to set the default or to "lock it down."]
69.140.152.55 ( talk) 00:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
The chart should indicate whether or not the software supports delivery receipts (i.e., the ability to request successful delivery status notifications).
69.140.152.55 ( talk) 00:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I have spent the afternoon researching email clients that support multiple accounts. There are several levels of support:
Page Notes ( talk) 22:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Eudora is, as far as I know, no longer for sale and is definitely not being updated. Penelope is not "the next release." Penelope is an apparently abandoned skin for Thunderbird. Odysseus is not mentioned - perhaps intentionally since it is still in beta, but it is far closer to release than Penelope. Odysseus is a new cross-platform "Eudora clone." PowerMail, a moderately popular proprietary solution which is still supported, appears to be missing. So is GyazMail but the latter is more understandable. Good to see Mulberry on the list. Does anyone want me to add Odysseus and PowerMail, and what should be done with the current listing of Eudora? 71.172.41.61 ( talk) 23:28, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Your comments about Penelope are not entirely accurate. Penelope is the open source, Mozilla Thunderbird based, "official replacement" for Eudora (see Penelope Project) and is being developed by some of the original Qualcomm Eudora developers. It is also mentioned directly on the Eudora main page. It is very much alive and well as a project, not abandoned. If fact you'll see that they have released the fourth beta of Penelope. Seeing that Odysseus is also in beta I would say that they are at the same stage, might even say that Penelope is ahead since it has the strong backing of Qualcomm, Mozilla and several Eudora developers so it definitely will result in a production release soon. Penelope also has a very significant advantage in that it is based on very good Mozilla Thunderbird technology and is open source and free of licensing costs!
As far as updating the table I think you should add Odysseus and Penelope and keep Eudora reflecting its last release 7.1 2 years ago. I still use Eudora today and I'm sure many others do also. Lbecque ( talk) 19:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The features charts are missing the most important feature that I was looking to compare; what MS Outlook calls 'rules' and Eudora calls actions on 'filters'. Actually, Eudora's use of the word filters is different from most email clients where the filters simply affect what email you are viewing. In Eudora filters (and Outlook rules) you use filters to select messages and perform some sort of action like filing in a folder, deleting, etc. which help you to automate your handling of mail and reduction of SPAM. I especially like the ability in Eudora to work with a POP3 server and based on a filter action only delete certain messages from the server while leaving the rest both on the server and the local inbox. I haven't found any other mail client that can do that. Lbecque ( talk) 20:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
The features chart should contain the supported formats for the import/export of emails. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.84.1.11 ( talk) 08:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
With the growing popularity of Gnome as a part of Ubuntu Linux, Evolution is also growing more popular. I think it should be included (and am too busy to add it myself). Cheers, BNutzer ( talk) 08:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
In common with other similar lists, I'll shortly begin removing non-notable entries that don't have an associated article. Greenman ( talk) 16:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Conspicuous by its absence is America On Line, or AOL. I've never used it, but millions have, and I personally know many people who continue to do so. How could this have been overlooked, or, was it removed by someone out of spite? — Quicksilver T @ 22:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
It would be nice to add a column to features if the e-mail client supports offline email reading. This is especially a question for IMAP: if the mail client supports downloaded copies of emails for offline reading and answer. -- 194.82.50.2 ( talk) 21:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
93.130.173.230 ( talk) 18:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Roundcube appears in the first comparison chart, but none of the subsequent charts. I notice that there is a discussion below about including RoundCube at all, but it remains included in the first chart. If you want to include it (and I think that it should) more information needs to be added regarding it to the additional charts.
Thanks. - Smaug 22:59, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
It is a very important to know if the email client is able to backup and restore my personal settings like email accounts, and configurations.
I am migrating out of MS Outlook because every time I format my windows (every six months) I have to create again each of my 16 email accounts, and rules, and configure my usage preferences again.
Lotus Notes has this feature, but all the rest is awful.
So, we need a column showing which email client is able to make a backup of configuration settings and email accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brunoschroeder ( talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 December 2011 (UTC)