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I have suggested that these two pages be merged. The development of the term social center emerged in Italy in the context of theorisation of the Social Factory, but in reality the best English is community centre. Harrypotter 17:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Here in the UK, and in some other countries I believe, community centres are generally government-run establishments that keeps within the boundaries of the particular political makeup of that country. Social centres on the other hand are independently run as an alternative to the mainstream political ways of doing things. They sometimes provide the same kind of services as community centres but they are philosophically, and in a lot of cases structurally, very different. Many social centres are also used as places to organise politically against the policies of the mainstream political parties in a given country. As such I feel the distinction needs to be made to properly reflect the nature of social centres. Perhaps a note needs to be added the social centre entry to reflect this. Prenna 22:43, 30 March 2006
I totally agree with Prenna that there need to be a distinction, and agree with his / her distinction. brooklyn_agit 23:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I would also agree that social centres should retain their own entry. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of Italian centri sociali (social centres) would know they have a very different history from community centres. The main point of differentiation is political. Italian social centres emerged primarily out of the autonomist-workerist political tradition. THis more radical line sought, by definition, autonomy from state formations. Social centres were a way of reclaiming community space for autonomous social and political practice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.113.179.98 ( talk) 18:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Why does this article use the British spelling? isn't US English the wikipedia standard for articles relevant to many english-speaking countries?
Dialectric ( talk) 21:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English— Preceding
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It is clear from the discussions above that the concept of a (semi-) illegal joint community use of an (abandoned) building has been collected in another article Social Centre. It is also clear that an attempt to merge that page with this one for community centre was aborted.
So would you please move all the talk about squatting an associated political theories out of this page, so the traditional non-revolutionary and rarely illegal community centre movements can get its page back. I will be bold and do some initial non-destructive editing in which I simply move the out of place stuff closer to the end of the page. 77.215.46.17 ( talk) 10:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
The following text was on this page prior to June 2013, but really belong on the Social Center page. It has been preserved down here temporarily until someone working on the Social Center page can move it.
Some community centres are squatted, sometimes rented buildings, mostly in Europe, which have been made into organizing centres for community activities, support networks, and institutional initiatives such as free kitchens, free shops, public computer labs, graffiti murals, free housing for activists and travelers, recreation, public meetings, legal collectives, and spaces for dances, performances and art exhibitions. Those in a more established setting may be directly connected with a library, swimming pool, gymnasium, or other public facility.
Community centers have various relationships toward the state and governmental institutions. Within the history of a given institution they may move from a quasi-legal or even illegal existence, to a more regularized situation.
In Italy, from the 1970s, large factories and even abandoned military barracks have been "appropriated" for use as community centres, known as Centri Sociali, often translated as social centres. There are today dozens of these across Italy. The historic relationship between the Italian social centres and the Autonomia movement (specifically Lotta Continua) has been described briefly in Storming Heaven, Class Composition and Struggle in Italian Autonomous Marxism, by Steve Wright.
Social centres in Italy continue to be centres of political and social dissent. Notably the Tute Bianche and Ya Basta Association developed directly out of the social centre movement, and many social forums take place in social centres.
In the United Kingdom there is an active Social Centre Network, which aims to link up "up the growing number of autonomous spaces to share resources, ideas and information". This network draws a very clear distinction between the many autonomous social centres around the country and the state or large NGO sponsored community centres.
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'Day centre' redirects to here, but in Britain a day centre is something altogether different. 31.52.254.181 ( talk) 15:59, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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I have suggested that these two pages be merged. The development of the term social center emerged in Italy in the context of theorisation of the Social Factory, but in reality the best English is community centre. Harrypotter 17:48, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Here in the UK, and in some other countries I believe, community centres are generally government-run establishments that keeps within the boundaries of the particular political makeup of that country. Social centres on the other hand are independently run as an alternative to the mainstream political ways of doing things. They sometimes provide the same kind of services as community centres but they are philosophically, and in a lot of cases structurally, very different. Many social centres are also used as places to organise politically against the policies of the mainstream political parties in a given country. As such I feel the distinction needs to be made to properly reflect the nature of social centres. Perhaps a note needs to be added the social centre entry to reflect this. Prenna 22:43, 30 March 2006
I totally agree with Prenna that there need to be a distinction, and agree with his / her distinction. brooklyn_agit 23:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I would also agree that social centres should retain their own entry. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of Italian centri sociali (social centres) would know they have a very different history from community centres. The main point of differentiation is political. Italian social centres emerged primarily out of the autonomist-workerist political tradition. THis more radical line sought, by definition, autonomy from state formations. Social centres were a way of reclaiming community space for autonomous social and political practice.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.113.179.98 ( talk) 18:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Why does this article use the British spelling? isn't US English the wikipedia standard for articles relevant to many english-speaking countries?
Dialectric ( talk) 21:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.63.55.81 (
talk)
04:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
It is clear from the discussions above that the concept of a (semi-) illegal joint community use of an (abandoned) building has been collected in another article Social Centre. It is also clear that an attempt to merge that page with this one for community centre was aborted.
So would you please move all the talk about squatting an associated political theories out of this page, so the traditional non-revolutionary and rarely illegal community centre movements can get its page back. I will be bold and do some initial non-destructive editing in which I simply move the out of place stuff closer to the end of the page. 77.215.46.17 ( talk) 10:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
The following text was on this page prior to June 2013, but really belong on the Social Center page. It has been preserved down here temporarily until someone working on the Social Center page can move it.
Some community centres are squatted, sometimes rented buildings, mostly in Europe, which have been made into organizing centres for community activities, support networks, and institutional initiatives such as free kitchens, free shops, public computer labs, graffiti murals, free housing for activists and travelers, recreation, public meetings, legal collectives, and spaces for dances, performances and art exhibitions. Those in a more established setting may be directly connected with a library, swimming pool, gymnasium, or other public facility.
Community centers have various relationships toward the state and governmental institutions. Within the history of a given institution they may move from a quasi-legal or even illegal existence, to a more regularized situation.
In Italy, from the 1970s, large factories and even abandoned military barracks have been "appropriated" for use as community centres, known as Centri Sociali, often translated as social centres. There are today dozens of these across Italy. The historic relationship between the Italian social centres and the Autonomia movement (specifically Lotta Continua) has been described briefly in Storming Heaven, Class Composition and Struggle in Italian Autonomous Marxism, by Steve Wright.
Social centres in Italy continue to be centres of political and social dissent. Notably the Tute Bianche and Ya Basta Association developed directly out of the social centre movement, and many social forums take place in social centres.
In the United Kingdom there is an active Social Centre Network, which aims to link up "up the growing number of autonomous spaces to share resources, ideas and information". This network draws a very clear distinction between the many autonomous social centres around the country and the state or large NGO sponsored community centres.
NB: This text was moved from here from the article by Ruby Murray 10:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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'Day centre' redirects to here, but in Britain a day centre is something altogether different. 31.52.254.181 ( talk) 15:59, 29 March 2019 (UTC)