Q1: Why is the article titled "Chinese Communist Party" when the party's official name in English is the "Communist Party of China"?
A1: The name "Chinese Communist Party" is more
commonly used by
reliable sources in the English language. Consensus on the current title was reached on 23 July 2020 (
see discussion). As of May 2024, there have been five failed proposals to revert this decision due to a lack of
policy-based arguments (i.e. pertaining to
WP:MOVE) on the part of the proposers.
Q2: Why are certain political ideologies and positions not included in the infobox?
A2: Per
MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, content in an article's infobox must appear and be
reliably sourced in the article body. A fact should only be added to the infobox after it has first been added to the article body with reliable sources. Content that is in dispute between reliable sources is generally not included in infoboxes.
The subject of this article is
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Chinese Communist Party was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the
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RM, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, No consensus, 6 September 2009,
discussion
RM, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, Moved, 16 July 2020,
discussion
MRV, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, Endorsed, 25 July 2020,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 21 January 2021,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 9 July 2022,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 19 October 2022,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Gongchandang, Withdrawn, 8 February 2023,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 4 May 2023,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 27 October 2023,
discussion
Left-right position of party
The party itself refers to Marxism, although its policies are different, but it could be assumed that the party's line is simply left-wing, not far left.
The most important aspect of the analysis is it needs to start with how the balance of
WP:RS describe the CPC's ideology. As a further matter, the left-right dichotomy arises from the Western political and historical context, and becomes less useful once removed from them. Our current ideology section of the infobox is much more precise and specific to the Chinese context. For further information, take look at the archives section of the talk page to see how this recurring discussion has played out in various ways over the years.
JArthur1984 (
talk)
17:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Would you consider "far-left" to be fitting for communist parties in the political context of Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, and North Korea? If not, should the descriptor be removed from the Wikipedia articles for those parties too?
TheTajik (
talk)
01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The party is known officially as "Communist Party of China" or "CPC", so it is curious why the article utilises a name more commonly associated with propaganda against it (people saying CCP often spell it that way to draw resemblance to CCCP, the Soviet Union, or to delegitimize the party in general). Wikipedia is supposed to be impartial and neutral.
Eduluzsci (
talk)
16:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
ming beforereply
Years ago, the page used to have the correct “CPC” formulation. This is a discussion that recurs over time and is too soon to have again though. Take a look at the page archives to see how it has developed in the past.
JArthur1984 (
talk)
17:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Or, to put another spin on it, the name in Chinese is the "China/Chinese Communist Party," with the country name coming before "Communist Party."
DOR (ex-HK) (
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19:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
About my editing
Hello
Amigao! I try to use Google Translate typing Chinese words 中国共产党, it is translated to "Communist Party of China" in English. I edit it, but why does my edit has undone?
Piggy Studio (
talk)
02:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Why does Andy Boreham send a X post (formerly Tweet) to call the "Communist Party of China", and English Wikipedia formerly used "Communist Party of China" but now is "Chinese Communist Party" this word?"
Piggy Studio (
talk)
02:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Q1: Why is the article titled "Chinese Communist Party" when the party's official name in English is the "Communist Party of China"?
A1: The name "Chinese Communist Party" is more
commonly used by
reliable sources in the English language. Consensus on the current title was reached on 23 July 2020 (
see discussion). As of May 2024, there have been five failed proposals to revert this decision due to a lack of
policy-based arguments (i.e. pertaining to
WP:MOVE) on the part of the proposers.
Q2: Why are certain political ideologies and positions not included in the infobox?
A2: Per
MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, content in an article's infobox must appear and be
reliably sourced in the article body. A fact should only be added to the infobox after it has first been added to the article body with reliable sources. Content that is in dispute between reliable sources is generally not included in infoboxes.
The subject of this article is
controversial and content may be in
dispute. When updating the article,
be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a
neutral point of view. Include
citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.
Chinese Communist Party was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the
good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be
renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject China, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
RM, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, No consensus, 6 September 2009,
discussion
RM, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, Moved, 16 July 2020,
discussion
MRV, Communist Party of China → Chinese Communist Party, Endorsed, 25 July 2020,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 21 January 2021,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 9 July 2022,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 19 October 2022,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Gongchandang, Withdrawn, 8 February 2023,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 4 May 2023,
discussion
RM, Chinese Communist Party → Communist Party of China, Not moved, 27 October 2023,
discussion
Left-right position of party
The party itself refers to Marxism, although its policies are different, but it could be assumed that the party's line is simply left-wing, not far left.
The most important aspect of the analysis is it needs to start with how the balance of
WP:RS describe the CPC's ideology. As a further matter, the left-right dichotomy arises from the Western political and historical context, and becomes less useful once removed from them. Our current ideology section of the infobox is much more precise and specific to the Chinese context. For further information, take look at the archives section of the talk page to see how this recurring discussion has played out in various ways over the years.
JArthur1984 (
talk)
17:52, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Would you consider "far-left" to be fitting for communist parties in the political context of Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, and North Korea? If not, should the descriptor be removed from the Wikipedia articles for those parties too?
TheTajik (
talk)
01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The party is known officially as "Communist Party of China" or "CPC", so it is curious why the article utilises a name more commonly associated with propaganda against it (people saying CCP often spell it that way to draw resemblance to CCCP, the Soviet Union, or to delegitimize the party in general). Wikipedia is supposed to be impartial and neutral.
Eduluzsci (
talk)
16:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
ming beforereply
Years ago, the page used to have the correct “CPC” formulation. This is a discussion that recurs over time and is too soon to have again though. Take a look at the page archives to see how it has developed in the past.
JArthur1984 (
talk)
17:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Or, to put another spin on it, the name in Chinese is the "China/Chinese Communist Party," with the country name coming before "Communist Party."
DOR (ex-HK) (
talk)
19:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
About my editing
Hello
Amigao! I try to use Google Translate typing Chinese words 中国共产党, it is translated to "Communist Party of China" in English. I edit it, but why does my edit has undone?
Piggy Studio (
talk)
02:23, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Why does Andy Boreham send a X post (formerly Tweet) to call the "Communist Party of China", and English Wikipedia formerly used "Communist Party of China" but now is "Chinese Communist Party" this word?"
Piggy Studio (
talk)
02:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)reply