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Isn't the Governor General of Canada the Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces? If so, do we need to have a list of Commanader in Chief of the CF? Or referal to the GG article be sufficient? -- Hurricane111 04:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
According to the sources cited, the Queen has this title: "The Command-in-Chief of the Land and Naval Militia, and of all Naval and Military Forces, of and in Canada." All the variants of that title have been awarded by the Queen to her viceroy. It is counterfactual to state otherwise. JDM1991 ( talk) 00:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
G2 is correct; a Canadian soldier (yesterday I believe), just lost a case over having to 'raise his drink' to the Queen (as she's Canada's armed forces Comander-in-chief. It's at the website Royalty News. GoodDay ( talk) 17:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Apparently there is some abiguity about this, which should be addressed in the article. However, the word of the
GG's official website should be definitive. Legal interpretations on this point by WP editors -- interpretations of the constitution and of one particular case-law ruling -- are not a sufficient, nor even a WP-allowable basis to contradict that website. Presumably the GG's website takes into account the various laws involved when it declares that the GG is the CiC. At any rate, it is the proper role of WP editors to accept what this authoritative secondary source has to say on the matter, and to write the WP article accordingly. It is not the proper role of WP editors to make contrary interpretations from statute and case-law. That is "original research" -- not allowed.
(It does seem that the monarch is, in some ultimate or "emblematic" sense, the CiC, but that this is a special and unusual sense, and that by ordinary sense the CiC is the GG. Objective secondary sources (that is, not monarchist or anti-monarchist analyses) that shed light on this ambiguity would be good to have.)
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Lonewolf BC (
talk) 19:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestion that the Queen is "Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces." She has explicitly given both the role and the title to someone else. JDM1991 ( talk) 22:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The current GG website hints at the Queen's official involvement... [3] By its wording it says the Sovereign's prerogative has granted upon the GG. (quote)The governor general is commander-in-chief of Canada. This role has been expressly conferred on the governor general as per the letters patent of 1947. As such, the governor general plays a major role in recognizing the importance of Canada’s military at home and abroad.(end quote) CaribDigita ( talk) 17:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
For reference, here is the information we have available to us:
The Queen is Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces while the Governor General exercises the duties thereof and holds the title Commander-in-Chief. It would be helpful if JDM would cease ignoring more than half of the above. -- G2bambino ( talk) 01:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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So the Prime Minister has no say in military decisions? What about the Chief of the Defence Staff? NorthernThunder ( talk) 10:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
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Isn't the Governor General of Canada the Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces? If so, do we need to have a list of Commanader in Chief of the CF? Or referal to the GG article be sufficient? -- Hurricane111 04:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
According to the sources cited, the Queen has this title: "The Command-in-Chief of the Land and Naval Militia, and of all Naval and Military Forces, of and in Canada." All the variants of that title have been awarded by the Queen to her viceroy. It is counterfactual to state otherwise. JDM1991 ( talk) 00:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
G2 is correct; a Canadian soldier (yesterday I believe), just lost a case over having to 'raise his drink' to the Queen (as she's Canada's armed forces Comander-in-chief. It's at the website Royalty News. GoodDay ( talk) 17:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Apparently there is some abiguity about this, which should be addressed in the article. However, the word of the
GG's official website should be definitive. Legal interpretations on this point by WP editors -- interpretations of the constitution and of one particular case-law ruling -- are not a sufficient, nor even a WP-allowable basis to contradict that website. Presumably the GG's website takes into account the various laws involved when it declares that the GG is the CiC. At any rate, it is the proper role of WP editors to accept what this authoritative secondary source has to say on the matter, and to write the WP article accordingly. It is not the proper role of WP editors to make contrary interpretations from statute and case-law. That is "original research" -- not allowed.
(It does seem that the monarch is, in some ultimate or "emblematic" sense, the CiC, but that this is a special and unusual sense, and that by ordinary sense the CiC is the GG. Objective secondary sources (that is, not monarchist or anti-monarchist analyses) that shed light on this ambiguity would be good to have.)
--
Lonewolf BC (
talk) 19:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestion that the Queen is "Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces." She has explicitly given both the role and the title to someone else. JDM1991 ( talk) 22:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The current GG website hints at the Queen's official involvement... [3] By its wording it says the Sovereign's prerogative has granted upon the GG. (quote)The governor general is commander-in-chief of Canada. This role has been expressly conferred on the governor general as per the letters patent of 1947. As such, the governor general plays a major role in recognizing the importance of Canada’s military at home and abroad.(end quote) CaribDigita ( talk) 17:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
For reference, here is the information we have available to us:
The Queen is Commander-in-Chief of the Canadian Forces while the Governor General exercises the duties thereof and holds the title Commander-in-Chief. It would be helpful if JDM would cease ignoring more than half of the above. -- G2bambino ( talk) 01:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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So the Prime Minister has no say in military decisions? What about the Chief of the Defence Staff? NorthernThunder ( talk) 10:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
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