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Are all the reference notes in here really necessary? They're distracting, and all the information in the article can be learned just by watching the episode in question. I mean, I could understand having references and a bibliography if it was, say, a biography of
Thomas Jefferson, but it's a
Star Trek: The Next Generation episode.
Branddobbe 07:22, Jan 23, 2004 (UTC)
All of the refrences deleted save for the last part.
Thirteen 22:52, September 18, 2004 (UTC)
The creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry, had specified in the series bible that there should be "no stories with Vulcans", stating that "there must be other interesting aliens in a galaxy filled with billions of stars and planets".
It would help to clean this up for readability and link separation: "In the "series bible", Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, specified that stories about Vulcans should be avoided because "there must be other interesting aliens in a galaxy filled with billions of stars and planets"." I think he also said that the reason these stories should be avoided is because TOS covered this ground already and he didn't want the series to repeat itself. In any case, this is precariously close to original research as it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the episode. In such an instance, it is acceptable to add non-controversial footnotes indicating what the series bible said about Vulcans, but using this information inline presents the novel argument that Roddenberry's dictates weren't being followed. Tell me your thoughts on this.
Viriditas (
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05:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Keith DeCandido watched the episode for Tor.com, who questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing it to a similar situation in The Original Series episode "The Doomsday Machine" and the sequence where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere to the "Premiere" episode of Farscape.'
Copyedit for clarity: "Writing for Tor.com, Keith DeCandido questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing this situation to similar stories found in The Original Series episode "The Doomsday Machine" and in a sequence from the "Premiere" episode of Farscape where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere."
Viriditas (
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05:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Adjusted the copyedit further as he was comparing two separate scenes to two different episodes. So I've split it into different sentences. It now reads -
Keith DeCandido questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing it to a similar situation in The Original Series episode "
The Doomsday Machine". He also felt that the sequence where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere resembled the "
Premiere" episode of Farscape.
Miyagawa (
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21:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)reply
He said that despite Remmick being "the ultimate cliché of the jackass interrogator... And yet, I don’t actually dislike this episode and enjoy watching it."
This reads poorly. It could be read as "He said that", referring to the previous sentence, or it could be read as, "He said that despite Remmick being", pointing to the subsequent phrasing. It's ambiguous. Also, neither works because you don't need the "and yet". If I'm reading this right, you are trying to say, "Despite Remmick being "the ultimate cliché of the jackass interrogator", DeCandido liked the episode." Or something like that.
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05:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Even though it is an internal document, add the publisher name ("Paramount Pictures") to the entry for the Star Trek: The Next Generation Writer/Director's Guide.
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Are all the reference notes in here really necessary? They're distracting, and all the information in the article can be learned just by watching the episode in question. I mean, I could understand having references and a bibliography if it was, say, a biography of
Thomas Jefferson, but it's a
Star Trek: The Next Generation episode.
Branddobbe 07:22, Jan 23, 2004 (UTC)
All of the refrences deleted save for the last part.
Thirteen 22:52, September 18, 2004 (UTC)
The creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry, had specified in the series bible that there should be "no stories with Vulcans", stating that "there must be other interesting aliens in a galaxy filled with billions of stars and planets".
It would help to clean this up for readability and link separation: "In the "series bible", Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, specified that stories about Vulcans should be avoided because "there must be other interesting aliens in a galaxy filled with billions of stars and planets"." I think he also said that the reason these stories should be avoided is because TOS covered this ground already and he didn't want the series to repeat itself. In any case, this is precariously close to original research as it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the episode. In such an instance, it is acceptable to add non-controversial footnotes indicating what the series bible said about Vulcans, but using this information inline presents the novel argument that Roddenberry's dictates weren't being followed. Tell me your thoughts on this.
Viriditas (
talk)
05:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Keith DeCandido watched the episode for Tor.com, who questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing it to a similar situation in The Original Series episode "The Doomsday Machine" and the sequence where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere to the "Premiere" episode of Farscape.'
Copyedit for clarity: "Writing for Tor.com, Keith DeCandido questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing this situation to similar stories found in The Original Series episode "The Doomsday Machine" and in a sequence from the "Premiere" episode of Farscape where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere."
Viriditas (
talk)
05:15, 19 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Adjusted the copyedit further as he was comparing two separate scenes to two different episodes. So I've split it into different sentences. It now reads -
Keith DeCandido questioned why the shuttlebay wasn't guarded, comparing it to a similar situation in The Original Series episode "
The Doomsday Machine". He also felt that the sequence where the shuttle is bounced off an atmosphere resembled the "
Premiere" episode of Farscape.
Miyagawa (
talk)
21:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)reply
He said that despite Remmick being "the ultimate cliché of the jackass interrogator... And yet, I don’t actually dislike this episode and enjoy watching it."
This reads poorly. It could be read as "He said that", referring to the previous sentence, or it could be read as, "He said that despite Remmick being", pointing to the subsequent phrasing. It's ambiguous. Also, neither works because you don't need the "and yet". If I'm reading this right, you are trying to say, "Despite Remmick being "the ultimate cliché of the jackass interrogator", DeCandido liked the episode." Or something like that.
Viriditas (
talk)
05:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)reply
Even though it is an internal document, add the publisher name ("Paramount Pictures") to the entry for the Star Trek: The Next Generation Writer/Director's Guide.