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ZoltanWiki ( talk) 19:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I would like to recommend the following edit. I can make the edit if you agree:
In Comic Books section:
With the release of tablets and digital content distribution, interactive graphic novels or comic books benefit from 3D modeling, animation and rendering skills. Such an example is Immortals and Indigenous animated comic by animator and 3D graphics artist, Zoltan Barati. It is leveraging 3D modeling, texturing, facial and character animation, motion graphics, 3D clothing and hair design / simulation, 3D lighting / rendering, and visual effects. The iBook was published by Digitone Pictures.
Notes to editors:
I had lengthy discussion with an editor whether my recommended addition is within the guidelines and as a result I opened up this talked page discussion as I believe it is within the guideline:
- The edit is informative.
- Since the surrounding paragraphs contains example of author, publisher or book title as an example, I would think it would be fair and informative to include these in my additions as well.
- The example book Immortals and Indigenous is published and distributed through Apple iTunes, a reliable third party. (I am not an Apple employee, and I am not getting paid for making the edit.)
- According to /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources, ... audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources.
- Listing the released book Immortals and Indigenous as an example, not only match the surrounding style, it serves as evidence of distributed material and helps understanding the edit through an example.
- Since there is a free preview sample version of the book, the financial advancement could be minimal or none. Because of the free sample preview, the edit does not advance more than the interest of Wikipedia.
- The edit is little-known but valuable. I am a subject matter expert as I author such books and subject matter experts are encouraged to edit according to Wikipedia.
- Even though the edit is informative, it would not oppose or challenge the existing information.
- Our discussion with an editor went on that an edit would need trade journals, mainstream newspaper backing and referred me to notability. However, at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability, it is stated that notability determination is related to whether a topic would have a separate article on its own. These are guidelines only to outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not limit content of an article or list. My addition is simply an addition to an existing topic and backed by reputable third party distribution as explained above.
- After further discussion, I was referred to undue weight section (According to /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight) However, my addition is not opposing a majority view. My information is an addition to majority position. I do not argue whether comic books, or digital content distribution stop using ink illustration or sprite animation. I simply stated other, such as 3D format exists and released and this is a factual statement with example. It is not demonstrating a different viewpoint from majority view. According to these guidelines "John Doe had the highest batting..." or "Many people think...." should not be used and I am not using such argument or statement. But the edit would be an informative addition.
- During our discussion, it also came up whether the link highlight of Immortal and Indigenous or the link highlight of www.DigitonePictures.com can be included in the body of the text or to provide below the External Link section. According to Wikipedia whether to include external link in the body text can discussed case-by-case. Thus, I would like to recommend to include link highlight in the body of the text for easy readability so that the viewer can quickly find the example and helps user understand. If you’d rather keep the link highlight at bottom at the External link section, I can accept that.
The external links would be:
I don't think I've ever encountered "comics artist" before? Is that really the most correct spelling? Non-native speaker here, so any input is appreciated. -- Oskila ( talk) 06:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
User:Nightscream restored the photo collage to the infobox stating, "Restore image removed on the basis of a poor rationale. Comics artists are not an "ethnic group or similarly large human population". Both the stated style guideline and the two archived discussions it links to as illustrative examples make it clear that ethnicity is the intended focus of it, and not an occupation."
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The contents of the Comics artist page were merged into Cartoonist#Comics artist on 22 October 2019. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
ZoltanWiki ( talk) 19:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
I would like to recommend the following edit. I can make the edit if you agree:
In Comic Books section:
With the release of tablets and digital content distribution, interactive graphic novels or comic books benefit from 3D modeling, animation and rendering skills. Such an example is Immortals and Indigenous animated comic by animator and 3D graphics artist, Zoltan Barati. It is leveraging 3D modeling, texturing, facial and character animation, motion graphics, 3D clothing and hair design / simulation, 3D lighting / rendering, and visual effects. The iBook was published by Digitone Pictures.
Notes to editors:
I had lengthy discussion with an editor whether my recommended addition is within the guidelines and as a result I opened up this talked page discussion as I believe it is within the guideline:
- The edit is informative.
- Since the surrounding paragraphs contains example of author, publisher or book title as an example, I would think it would be fair and informative to include these in my additions as well.
- The example book Immortals and Indigenous is published and distributed through Apple iTunes, a reliable third party. (I am not an Apple employee, and I am not getting paid for making the edit.)
- According to /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources, ... audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources.
- Listing the released book Immortals and Indigenous as an example, not only match the surrounding style, it serves as evidence of distributed material and helps understanding the edit through an example.
- Since there is a free preview sample version of the book, the financial advancement could be minimal or none. Because of the free sample preview, the edit does not advance more than the interest of Wikipedia.
- The edit is little-known but valuable. I am a subject matter expert as I author such books and subject matter experts are encouraged to edit according to Wikipedia.
- Even though the edit is informative, it would not oppose or challenge the existing information.
- Our discussion with an editor went on that an edit would need trade journals, mainstream newspaper backing and referred me to notability. However, at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability, it is stated that notability determination is related to whether a topic would have a separate article on its own. These are guidelines only to outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not limit content of an article or list. My addition is simply an addition to an existing topic and backed by reputable third party distribution as explained above.
- After further discussion, I was referred to undue weight section (According to /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight) However, my addition is not opposing a majority view. My information is an addition to majority position. I do not argue whether comic books, or digital content distribution stop using ink illustration or sprite animation. I simply stated other, such as 3D format exists and released and this is a factual statement with example. It is not demonstrating a different viewpoint from majority view. According to these guidelines "John Doe had the highest batting..." or "Many people think...." should not be used and I am not using such argument or statement. But the edit would be an informative addition.
- During our discussion, it also came up whether the link highlight of Immortal and Indigenous or the link highlight of www.DigitonePictures.com can be included in the body of the text or to provide below the External Link section. According to Wikipedia whether to include external link in the body text can discussed case-by-case. Thus, I would like to recommend to include link highlight in the body of the text for easy readability so that the viewer can quickly find the example and helps user understand. If you’d rather keep the link highlight at bottom at the External link section, I can accept that.
The external links would be:
I don't think I've ever encountered "comics artist" before? Is that really the most correct spelling? Non-native speaker here, so any input is appreciated. -- Oskila ( talk) 06:29, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
User:Nightscream restored the photo collage to the infobox stating, "Restore image removed on the basis of a poor rationale. Comics artists are not an "ethnic group or similarly large human population". Both the stated style guideline and the two archived discussions it links to as illustrative examples make it clear that ethnicity is the intended focus of it, and not an occupation."