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Could someone tell me what is the preferred term for a single frame, pane, or cell of a comic strip (i.e., that which there are typically three of in most Sunday funnies)? Thanks. — Jeff Q 09:33, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I am a Wikipedia newbie, and would like to conform to the rules. Not long ago, I added an interwiki link to the Comic strip article, leading to the French Wikipedia article "Bande dessinée". It was quickly removed, with the comment "removed interwikis to comics, not comic strips". Now, in French, "bande dessinée" is the most common phrase for either "comic book" or "comic strip". If you want to learn what French Wikipedia has to say about comic strips, the "bande dessinée" article is the place to start. That article even says, "Some specialists consider that the first bande dessinée in the world was Yellow Kid...". So my question is, must interwikis link to exact synonyms, or can they link to the best matching article even if it's a broader term? Gwil 05:16, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I removed the paragraph "As early as 1801 established Swedish fine artist artist Pehr Nordquist, dead i Napels 1805, draw a two-page eight panel comic strip.", and I suppose it behooves me to explain why.
There are many possible precursors to the modern comic strip. Pehr Nordquist, Willem Bilderdijk, Rodolphe Töpffer, Christophe (Georges Colomb), William Hogarth, Caran d'Ache (Emmanuel Poiré), A. B. Frost, Richard Doyle, Gustave Doré, Wilhelm Busch, Benjamin Rabier, and W. Fletcher Thomas have all been cited as forerunners. They all created sequential graphic narratives before the Yellow Kid. Most of these narratives had captions under the pictures. As far as I know, none of them had speech balloons, and none of them was published on a regular schedule. Comics authority Thierry Groensteen, preparing an exhibition in Angoulême, chose Rodolphe Töpffer as the most important originator of the comic-strip form. E. Wiese titled his reprint of two Töpffer works "Enter: The Comics". Pehr Nordquist, by contrast, isn't even mentioned in the Swedish Wikipedia. According to the same account of Groensteen's choice, Nordquist's works remained confidential and unpublished (vertraulich und unveröffentlicht blieben).
Why do we distinguish Wilhelm Busch from all the others, by mentioning Max and Moritz? Because he had a clearly demonstrable influence on the earliest American comic strips. If Pehr Nordquist had even the slightest influence, I haven't heard about it. Gwil 04:29, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean there wasn't any influence. 199.175.128.1 16:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Nothing about European comics here. I started to look around a bit, and found articles Comic book, Comic strip, European comics and American comics. A bit confusing. Is "comic strip" the sum of "European comics" and "American comics" (and possibly others like Manga)? In that case this article should mention this and most of the information should be moved to "American comics". Any comments? Piet 11:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
The comic strip, like jazz, is an American artform. A few European and South American newspapers picked up the idea, and they created a few major strips, such as "Modesty Blaise", "Agatha", and "The Perishers". Modesty Blaise is mentioned in the article, The Perishers is in the list of comic strips and has its own article. I've added "Agatha" to the list. She really should have an article of her own. But most comic strips, even in European newspapers, are American. The European comic album is really a different artform, though there are similarities -- long stories told a page or two at a time. Of course, with the advent of internet comic strips, the strip has become totally international. Rick Norwood ( talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
No, I have newspapers with original strips from both continental Europe and South America, but the ones I have usually run mostly American strips, with a small number of non-US strips. Still, this article would certainly benefit from more about non-US comic strips. I hope you will contribute. Rick Norwood ( talk) 12:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I guess I lean rather weakly to keeping an article on the newspaper comic strip, since the term comic strip is not used to define the newspaper comic strip in many parts of the world. That said, I concede these articles need work to express the differences, and would not oppose a merger on the understanding that such a merger could be undone in the future when the articles merited it. Hiding talk 16:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Web based comicstrip generators have been around for a while, long before any web 2.0 hype. This renders the section regarding web 2.0 comics pretty much meaningless, and I suggest it be removed.
I have recently started reviewing a book indicating which comic strips were available for publication from syndicates through 1995, with the intention of including those strips which had been available from these syndicates for at least ten years. I have to date added all those listed in the book which qualify by this 10-year rule whose titles begin with "A" or "B", and found that the page as it now exists is already longer than is desired. I would suggest possibly that, as is the case with the list of DC Comics and others, the individual entries be shortened to include only the name of the strip itself, the years in which it ran, and possibly the Reuben Award status and country of origin, dropping all the data about creators. Badbilltucker 19:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/jong003were01_01/jong003were01_01_0002.htm
Could anybody help me with an issue involving British newspaper comics? The link goes to the start of the first (important) Dutch daily newspaper comic (1922), scroll down until the heroes meet a sort of an elf and a pig coming out of the London Evening News office in Fleetstreet. That elf-pig combination had its own comic in the London Evening News in that time, but I cannot find any indication what their names and the name of their series were. It is of some importance for the development of the history of Dutch (newspaper) comics, as it was the first comic series published in a Dutch newspaper. ThW5 09:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
The British Library
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Tel: +44 (0)20 7412 7353 Fax: +44 (0)20 7412 7379
Email: newspaper@bl.uk
I think Newspaper Comic Strip and Comic Strip could be merged, they are essentially the same thing. Dragon Expert 14:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know why most comic strips use uppercase only? There's gotta be a reason for such conformity. Xiner 22:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Can someone who knows more than me flesh out the genres section a bit? For example, I remember Bill Watterson mentioning that he originally wasn't keen to do a kid strip because of Peanuts' dominance. There must be plenty of other genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimNelson ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC) AND NONE OF THIS IS TRUE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.236.145 ( talk) 22:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I would think these would be appropriate breakdowns of comic strips:
1. Political
2. Parady/Satire
3. Family Life/Children (Family Circle)
4. Adventure Story
5. Superhero/Sci-Fi (Superman)
6. Mystery/Detective
7. Anthropomorphic
8. Romance/Soap
9. Workplace (Dilbert, Cathy)
10. Slice Of Life
I notice every once in a while that different daily strips will have similar themes on the same day. For instance, "The Family Circus" and "Wizard of Id" will both reference top hats.
Is this just a coincidence or is there some kind of comic writers' "book of ideas" that creators can refer to for certain days? Has anyone else ever seen these similarities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.49.39 ( talk) 18:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
In the past comic authors have been known to post the same very obvious joke, even switching characters with each other on holidays including April 1st. If it's a small joke, it's not likely intentional. —Preceding
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I see this article has been tagged for over a year... please do something about it. Or shall we nominate this article for deletion? Shinobu ( talk) 14:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Wonderful though Gary Larson's work is and was, it was not a "comic strip". He drew single panel cartoons, aka gag cartoons. I think we might remove references to him and other artists who do only these single panel things. After all these are not sequential art, which this article is supposed to be about. Invertzoo ( talk) 12:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about proof sheets, with a quote from an article on when King Features donated their's to MSU and Ohio State U. Do syndicates still use proofs or has electronical means supplanted them? Does the reference need any tweaking? I was surprised a Google of the term didn't readily find a good online definition or description, and it seemed to be appropriate to include it in this entry. Dgabbard ( talk) 04:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb ( talk) 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Removed this section on "the first daily comic strip." 1) It simply wasn't. 2) It claimed it was the first "successful" daily comic strip-- by whose standards? 3) Wasn't, as claimed, the first strip to use speech baloons-- Katzenjammer Kids did that before Mutt & Jeff 4) Simply put, the section was VERY short on information, and half of what was there was misleading or incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leisurely historian ( talk • contribs) 15:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I've got some issues with the lead.
A comic strip is a sequence of cartoons that tells a story, often humorous, though action-adventure. science fiction and soap opera-like dramas are also prevalent.
The phrasing "sequence of cartoons" sound weird, and there probably needs to be at least some mentioning of comics somewhere early on. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a consensus about really what the article should contain. To some people comic strip is just a synonym to the comic medium itself, to others, it's comics in strip format, etc. 惑乱 Wakuran ( talk) 10:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
There's an article at ABC News about newspapers reducing the number of comics strips they have recently, some papers (The Washington Times) dropping the comics section entirely. I thought it would be good to add to the article, but the way the article is currently organized, I can't see where it would fit. CüRlyTüRkey Talk Contribs 00:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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If "Thimble Theatre" and "Popeye" are included together, shouldn't "Fritzi Ritz" and "Nancy" also appear? 2002:620D:3AF:0:2010:764F:9259:A55 ( talk) 04:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
I feel that the article, in its current state, is incredibly american-centered. For example, Mafalda is not mentioned ONCE in the entirety of the article, and other famous latin-american are not even acknowledged to exist. I am not really sure how i would personally make a change (i don't really edit Wikipedia myself), but seeing the article in it's current state makes me think that it could be improved a lot. Or also, Asterix is not mentioned in the article either, even though it is a notable french comic strip. SanaeKochiya727 ( talk) 14:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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Could someone tell me what is the preferred term for a single frame, pane, or cell of a comic strip (i.e., that which there are typically three of in most Sunday funnies)? Thanks. — Jeff Q 09:33, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I am a Wikipedia newbie, and would like to conform to the rules. Not long ago, I added an interwiki link to the Comic strip article, leading to the French Wikipedia article "Bande dessinée". It was quickly removed, with the comment "removed interwikis to comics, not comic strips". Now, in French, "bande dessinée" is the most common phrase for either "comic book" or "comic strip". If you want to learn what French Wikipedia has to say about comic strips, the "bande dessinée" article is the place to start. That article even says, "Some specialists consider that the first bande dessinée in the world was Yellow Kid...". So my question is, must interwikis link to exact synonyms, or can they link to the best matching article even if it's a broader term? Gwil 05:16, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I removed the paragraph "As early as 1801 established Swedish fine artist artist Pehr Nordquist, dead i Napels 1805, draw a two-page eight panel comic strip.", and I suppose it behooves me to explain why.
There are many possible precursors to the modern comic strip. Pehr Nordquist, Willem Bilderdijk, Rodolphe Töpffer, Christophe (Georges Colomb), William Hogarth, Caran d'Ache (Emmanuel Poiré), A. B. Frost, Richard Doyle, Gustave Doré, Wilhelm Busch, Benjamin Rabier, and W. Fletcher Thomas have all been cited as forerunners. They all created sequential graphic narratives before the Yellow Kid. Most of these narratives had captions under the pictures. As far as I know, none of them had speech balloons, and none of them was published on a regular schedule. Comics authority Thierry Groensteen, preparing an exhibition in Angoulême, chose Rodolphe Töpffer as the most important originator of the comic-strip form. E. Wiese titled his reprint of two Töpffer works "Enter: The Comics". Pehr Nordquist, by contrast, isn't even mentioned in the Swedish Wikipedia. According to the same account of Groensteen's choice, Nordquist's works remained confidential and unpublished (vertraulich und unveröffentlicht blieben).
Why do we distinguish Wilhelm Busch from all the others, by mentioning Max and Moritz? Because he had a clearly demonstrable influence on the earliest American comic strips. If Pehr Nordquist had even the slightest influence, I haven't heard about it. Gwil 04:29, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean there wasn't any influence. 199.175.128.1 16:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Nothing about European comics here. I started to look around a bit, and found articles Comic book, Comic strip, European comics and American comics. A bit confusing. Is "comic strip" the sum of "European comics" and "American comics" (and possibly others like Manga)? In that case this article should mention this and most of the information should be moved to "American comics". Any comments? Piet 11:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
The comic strip, like jazz, is an American artform. A few European and South American newspapers picked up the idea, and they created a few major strips, such as "Modesty Blaise", "Agatha", and "The Perishers". Modesty Blaise is mentioned in the article, The Perishers is in the list of comic strips and has its own article. I've added "Agatha" to the list. She really should have an article of her own. But most comic strips, even in European newspapers, are American. The European comic album is really a different artform, though there are similarities -- long stories told a page or two at a time. Of course, with the advent of internet comic strips, the strip has become totally international. Rick Norwood ( talk) 12:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
No, I have newspapers with original strips from both continental Europe and South America, but the ones I have usually run mostly American strips, with a small number of non-US strips. Still, this article would certainly benefit from more about non-US comic strips. I hope you will contribute. Rick Norwood ( talk) 12:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I guess I lean rather weakly to keeping an article on the newspaper comic strip, since the term comic strip is not used to define the newspaper comic strip in many parts of the world. That said, I concede these articles need work to express the differences, and would not oppose a merger on the understanding that such a merger could be undone in the future when the articles merited it. Hiding talk 16:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Web based comicstrip generators have been around for a while, long before any web 2.0 hype. This renders the section regarding web 2.0 comics pretty much meaningless, and I suggest it be removed.
I have recently started reviewing a book indicating which comic strips were available for publication from syndicates through 1995, with the intention of including those strips which had been available from these syndicates for at least ten years. I have to date added all those listed in the book which qualify by this 10-year rule whose titles begin with "A" or "B", and found that the page as it now exists is already longer than is desired. I would suggest possibly that, as is the case with the list of DC Comics and others, the individual entries be shortened to include only the name of the strip itself, the years in which it ran, and possibly the Reuben Award status and country of origin, dropping all the data about creators. Badbilltucker 19:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/jong003were01_01/jong003were01_01_0002.htm
Could anybody help me with an issue involving British newspaper comics? The link goes to the start of the first (important) Dutch daily newspaper comic (1922), scroll down until the heroes meet a sort of an elf and a pig coming out of the London Evening News office in Fleetstreet. That elf-pig combination had its own comic in the London Evening News in that time, but I cannot find any indication what their names and the name of their series were. It is of some importance for the development of the history of Dutch (newspaper) comics, as it was the first comic series published in a Dutch newspaper. ThW5 09:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
The British Library
Newspapers Colindale Avenue London NW9 5HE United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)20 7412 7353 Fax: +44 (0)20 7412 7379
Email: newspaper@bl.uk
I think Newspaper Comic Strip and Comic Strip could be merged, they are essentially the same thing. Dragon Expert 14:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know why most comic strips use uppercase only? There's gotta be a reason for such conformity. Xiner 22:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Can someone who knows more than me flesh out the genres section a bit? For example, I remember Bill Watterson mentioning that he originally wasn't keen to do a kid strip because of Peanuts' dominance. There must be plenty of other genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimNelson ( talk • contribs) 06:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC) AND NONE OF THIS IS TRUE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.236.145 ( talk) 22:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I would think these would be appropriate breakdowns of comic strips:
1. Political
2. Parady/Satire
3. Family Life/Children (Family Circle)
4. Adventure Story
5. Superhero/Sci-Fi (Superman)
6. Mystery/Detective
7. Anthropomorphic
8. Romance/Soap
9. Workplace (Dilbert, Cathy)
10. Slice Of Life
I notice every once in a while that different daily strips will have similar themes on the same day. For instance, "The Family Circus" and "Wizard of Id" will both reference top hats.
Is this just a coincidence or is there some kind of comic writers' "book of ideas" that creators can refer to for certain days? Has anyone else ever seen these similarities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.49.39 ( talk) 18:17, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
In the past comic authors have been known to post the same very obvious joke, even switching characters with each other on holidays including April 1st. If it's a small joke, it's not likely intentional. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.16.31.83 (
talk)
19:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I see this article has been tagged for over a year... please do something about it. Or shall we nominate this article for deletion? Shinobu ( talk) 14:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Wonderful though Gary Larson's work is and was, it was not a "comic strip". He drew single panel cartoons, aka gag cartoons. I think we might remove references to him and other artists who do only these single panel things. After all these are not sequential art, which this article is supposed to be about. Invertzoo ( talk) 12:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about proof sheets, with a quote from an article on when King Features donated their's to MSU and Ohio State U. Do syndicates still use proofs or has electronical means supplanted them? Does the reference need any tweaking? I was surprised a Google of the term didn't readily find a good online definition or description, and it seemed to be appropriate to include it in this entry. Dgabbard ( talk) 04:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject. If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class. The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject. Comics-awb ( talk) 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Removed this section on "the first daily comic strip." 1) It simply wasn't. 2) It claimed it was the first "successful" daily comic strip-- by whose standards? 3) Wasn't, as claimed, the first strip to use speech baloons-- Katzenjammer Kids did that before Mutt & Jeff 4) Simply put, the section was VERY short on information, and half of what was there was misleading or incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leisurely historian ( talk • contribs) 15:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I've got some issues with the lead.
A comic strip is a sequence of cartoons that tells a story, often humorous, though action-adventure. science fiction and soap opera-like dramas are also prevalent.
The phrasing "sequence of cartoons" sound weird, and there probably needs to be at least some mentioning of comics somewhere early on. On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be a consensus about really what the article should contain. To some people comic strip is just a synonym to the comic medium itself, to others, it's comics in strip format, etc. 惑乱 Wakuran ( talk) 10:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
There's an article at ABC News about newspapers reducing the number of comics strips they have recently, some papers (The Washington Times) dropping the comics section entirely. I thought it would be good to add to the article, but the way the article is currently organized, I can't see where it would fit. CüRlyTüRkey Talk Contribs 00:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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If "Thimble Theatre" and "Popeye" are included together, shouldn't "Fritzi Ritz" and "Nancy" also appear? 2002:620D:3AF:0:2010:764F:9259:A55 ( talk) 04:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
I feel that the article, in its current state, is incredibly american-centered. For example, Mafalda is not mentioned ONCE in the entirety of the article, and other famous latin-american are not even acknowledged to exist. I am not really sure how i would personally make a change (i don't really edit Wikipedia myself), but seeing the article in it's current state makes me think that it could be improved a lot. Or also, Asterix is not mentioned in the article either, even though it is a notable french comic strip. SanaeKochiya727 ( talk) 14:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)