This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Collins-class submarine article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
|
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Does anyone know the name of the Boeing/Rockwell Weapons Combat System originally installed in the Collins class?
This page, the class, has the Aussie flag whereas each of the boat pages has the navy flag. Brettr 04:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see additional comments in Operational History section
I think we would be well advised to remove claims that a succesful sinking of USN capital ships in a SinkEx is proof that the Collins is a credible sub. These exercises are designed to train ALL particiapating crews in ALL phases of an operation, therefore that includes taking a shot. In the real world it is quite possible that the sub would have been sunk, or avoided, long before getting into a firing position, especially given the sub's short range at high speed underwater, and the high transit speed of a USN CVN group. Greglocock 12:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
THis guys obviously an american holding a grudge, if you where there youd know better. THe US BELEIVED that its carrier could survive with little escorts (it wanted to test this theory because of the Russian carrier can do it - but lets not get into that)...the US WAS NOT EXPECTING the aussies to sink their capital ship, but it happened...and if this was just letting the aussies get a shot in, why did the next war games have a huge carrier battle group sourounding the ship?
Image:Diving and Safety Station on HMAS Collins.jpeg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 02:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the following materials from the article:
These comparisons don't seem valid as Indian shipyards have different cost structures to Australian shipyards and the Canadians bought their submarines second-hand, and seem to have gotten a bad deal anyway (all the Victoria class boats are yet to enter service). The link to the Canadian Government's rationales does not state that the Australian experiance was a "primary reason" fir the Government's decision. -- Nick Dowling 05:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Nick,
so why did you remove the following material as well?
"Also the very capable German Type 209 submarine cost in the mid-1990s between USD $370 and 500 million and, quite differently than the Collins class subs, became an export hit: 13 nations plus a modified version for Israel (Dolphin class submarine) began to use this weapon system."
I think that at least one comparable example (though with a slightly better sub) should be included to put the Collins class boats' cost problems in context.
Enrico, 20:36, 2 November 2007
References
Please see additional comments in Operational History section
Does this article talk about how one of the collins sunk a a Nimitz class super carrier during war games? I didnt get time to read it through but I know for sure that it occured because A) I know some of the people who designed the sub and they told me and B) It was on a doco about the Subs. I think this info is extremely important because it proves that the strongest ship in the world is vunerable to a non nuclear powered sub.
Thanks,
Me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.169.244 ( talk) 02:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
NOT A BIG DEAL? An SA non nuclear sub sunk one the most powerful ship in existance. Im pretty sure it was the Abraham lincoln that was 'sunk'. Iv been on a tour and seen the subs and the guys who designed it bragged about how it sunk the us carrier and the next year the americans cheated at war games because of this (the Aussies still escaped - big suprise) Also on the show submariners that is a doco about the subs also verified that it sunk a Nimitz. This not only is a huge success but it should be included because if there ever is another huge scale war and a sub sinks a nimitz it would be vital to compare it to this event because the US could have prevented it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.170.135 ( talk) 03:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I have recently (30 Dec 2007) read several newspapers articles and articles in online sites that indicate an Australian Defence Force think tank has come to the conclusion that the Collins Class should be retired in 2025 and replaced by a new as yet undesigned 'super sub'. This idea has apparently got support from Australia's new defence minister, whose name eludes me, and is apparently in the process of being ratified by cabinet which is obviously wanting to look 'strong' viz a vie matters of defence since taking power last month. Although various aspects of the article were unsubstantial, such as whether the new submarines should be nuclear or conventional for example, the date of retirement of the 'old' subs seemed quite conclusive. Perhaps a mention of at least the anticipated date of decommission would be appropriate for this article? Just a thought. 58.145.148.3 ( talk) 04:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC) Walt X.
So what's wrong with this section? I read through it and thought it wasn't great, but it didn't seem biased to me. The report was very damning. ASC and kockums did an appalling job, if the intention was to build a safe submarine that could attack other vessels, soon after it was launched. Which i think is what we paid for. Greglocock ( talk) 03:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I see a number of problems that need to be addressed, both overall and specifically in the "McIntosh-Prescott report", which appears to cop the worst of it. Some of the problems are:
When I get some time over the next day or two, I will have a crack at improving the article to solve some or all of these problems. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. -- saberwyn 03:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
there are numerous problems with this page, if you want help i would suggest PM'ing GF at this link, a read of this thread will show he knows what he is talking about http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3875 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.254.70.9 ( talk) 18:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
The massive content expansion promised in the above section has been dumped into mainspace. Just a few notes regarding this
That's about it for now. Thoughs? Comments? Flames? -- saberwyn 07:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Saberwyn undid addition because he considered it overly-detalied, newsarticle-type content
i feel deleting isnt the right thing as the information gets lost, editing is the sensible way and i have edited it to its minimum info
A prototype hose will be tested extensively in 2008 and certified for use before full production of replacement hoses occurs for fitting to submarines http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21285627-31477,00.html
I think it is misleading to say that only half the submarine fleet is active. It seems inconsistent with the treatment of other submarine classes. Submarines go in and out of intermediate and deep maintenance, training, workup, etc...that does not mean they are not 'active'. The term is not official Navy language and so should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by thefunnelweb ( talk • contribs)
3 is currently correct though the RAN is on track to make this 4 submarines with 4 crews by the end of 2011 Longinus007 ( talk) 18:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Seriously do you even understand how the cycle works ? of course the navy only have enough crews to operate 3 subs, how many do you think you can have operational at any given time in a 6 sub fleet ? And BTW, active normally means "commissioned" so if you look at the majority of "information" on Wiki regarding military equipment, especially naval ships, the active equates to commissioned ships of a particular class — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.31.46 ( talk) 12:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
6 active boats as in operational? Not including the 2 that are always in maint? So out of service. Then 2 are only ever in service as there is ONLY FOUR CREWS, 2 on and 2 off. So 2 are pointless and have been since the day launched. So even if theres no boats being serviced and not usable, that makes 2 active, with 4 in war.-- Thelawlollol ( talk) 09:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Article itself states there is 4 crews and only 2 in service! so in all real situations only 2 are currently active and 4 possibly, which will be interesting when theres 12 additional outdated and pointless subs and still only 4 crews for them.-- Thelawlollol ( talk) 09:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
(This relates to several other comments on this page.)
I would respectfully suggest that the majority of the "Operational History" section be deleted. It reads like a government PR campaign to try to convince the reader of the "worthiness" of the submarine.
For the uninitiated, let me point out that war games exercises are designed to expose flaws. They are rarely created as "fair fights". If you want to know how a US Navy carrier group will respond to a surprise attack by a diesel-electric sub, you create a situation in which the sub has a tactical advantage and the carrier group is disadvantaged. Then you wait to see how much damage the sub will do before the carrier's defenses kick in. Put differently, exercises seek to identify the weak spots in each vessel, not to determine which vessel is superior.
This is why the endless, carefully itemized examples in the "Operation History" section are irrelevant. All they prove is that the Collins sub is a modern military machine. Well... we knew that to begin with. The Collins class is effective. That's all that needs be said. 67.68.47.151 ( talk) 20:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I work for Thales, the Sonar provider on Collins and cleaned up a few errors recently. Someone threatened them for deletion so wanted to clear it up. I spend 9 years on the submarines so hoped to have helped out.
The intercept array was previously listed as an Argo EW system - this is a Thales Intercept (Paris Pylon) is the generic family name.
The periscopes are a new addition, the boats have had them classwide since launch
The completion of the rollout of the new Combat system was incorrectly listed as 2010, this wont happen until the last submarine receives it during FCD
The Sonar hasnt even begun to be upgraded yet, reference for the upgrade is the Defence DCP on the DMO website - earliest commencement of the program is 2017
Cheers!
Longinus007 ( talk) 18:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
This diff http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Collins_class_submarine&diff=500378415&oldid=495065791 shows some recent additions. I am loathe to get rid of interesting content but at the same time it sounds a bit like OR or opinion to me. Greglocock ( talk) 05:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I've just removed the 'surviving' block of uncited text, as after almost two months, nobody appears to have been able to find supporting sources. Most of the material added by the IP(s) was fairly extreme, and I think that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". In case anyone can provide sources for the information, I've linked the original insertion diffs and attempted to summarise the claims made:
-- saberwyn 12:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that's fine. Shame really, it /sounded/ interesting. Greglocock ( talk) 23:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Should this article be moved to Collins-class submarine per MOS:TITLE? Peacemaker67 ( send... over) 01:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Cyberbot II has detected that page contains external links that have either been globally or locally blacklisted. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed, or are highly innappropriate for Wikipedia. This, however, doesn't necessarily mean it's spam, or not a good link. If the link is a good link, you may wish to request whitelisting by going to the request page for whitelisting. If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the blacklist request page. If the link is blacklisted globally and you feel the above applies you may request to whitelist it using the before mentioned request page, or request its removal, or alteration, at the request page on meta. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true. Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
\bnaval-technology\.com\b
on the local blacklistIf you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.— cyberbot II NotifyOnline 11:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Resolved This issue has been resolved, and I have therefore removed the tag, if not already done. No further action is necessary.—
cyberbot II
NotifyOnline
19:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
As notable as Goon? Hcobb ( talk) 21:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, more links:
Each of the six boats costs twice as much to sustain and operate as an American nuclear submarine, while falling far short
The chief executive officer of the DMO, Warren King, has previously acknowledged, publicly, issues with Collins sustainment
A state-of-the-art, highly capable MOTS submarine providing perhaps 90 per cent of the required capability and saving $26 billion to be spent on other vital Defence capability is the only option this Government should contemplate, Mr Patrick said.
It's not like Rex is particularity shy on barking at the sub program. Hcobb ( talk) 10:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Collins-class submarine. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 18:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 02:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 04:21, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Collins-class submarine article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
|
![]() | This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Does anyone know the name of the Boeing/Rockwell Weapons Combat System originally installed in the Collins class?
This page, the class, has the Aussie flag whereas each of the boat pages has the navy flag. Brettr 04:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see additional comments in Operational History section
I think we would be well advised to remove claims that a succesful sinking of USN capital ships in a SinkEx is proof that the Collins is a credible sub. These exercises are designed to train ALL particiapating crews in ALL phases of an operation, therefore that includes taking a shot. In the real world it is quite possible that the sub would have been sunk, or avoided, long before getting into a firing position, especially given the sub's short range at high speed underwater, and the high transit speed of a USN CVN group. Greglocock 12:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
THis guys obviously an american holding a grudge, if you where there youd know better. THe US BELEIVED that its carrier could survive with little escorts (it wanted to test this theory because of the Russian carrier can do it - but lets not get into that)...the US WAS NOT EXPECTING the aussies to sink their capital ship, but it happened...and if this was just letting the aussies get a shot in, why did the next war games have a huge carrier battle group sourounding the ship?
Image:Diving and Safety Station on HMAS Collins.jpeg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 02:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the following materials from the article:
These comparisons don't seem valid as Indian shipyards have different cost structures to Australian shipyards and the Canadians bought their submarines second-hand, and seem to have gotten a bad deal anyway (all the Victoria class boats are yet to enter service). The link to the Canadian Government's rationales does not state that the Australian experiance was a "primary reason" fir the Government's decision. -- Nick Dowling 05:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Nick,
so why did you remove the following material as well?
"Also the very capable German Type 209 submarine cost in the mid-1990s between USD $370 and 500 million and, quite differently than the Collins class subs, became an export hit: 13 nations plus a modified version for Israel (Dolphin class submarine) began to use this weapon system."
I think that at least one comparable example (though with a slightly better sub) should be included to put the Collins class boats' cost problems in context.
Enrico, 20:36, 2 November 2007
References
Please see additional comments in Operational History section
Does this article talk about how one of the collins sunk a a Nimitz class super carrier during war games? I didnt get time to read it through but I know for sure that it occured because A) I know some of the people who designed the sub and they told me and B) It was on a doco about the Subs. I think this info is extremely important because it proves that the strongest ship in the world is vunerable to a non nuclear powered sub.
Thanks,
Me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.169.244 ( talk) 02:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
NOT A BIG DEAL? An SA non nuclear sub sunk one the most powerful ship in existance. Im pretty sure it was the Abraham lincoln that was 'sunk'. Iv been on a tour and seen the subs and the guys who designed it bragged about how it sunk the us carrier and the next year the americans cheated at war games because of this (the Aussies still escaped - big suprise) Also on the show submariners that is a doco about the subs also verified that it sunk a Nimitz. This not only is a huge success but it should be included because if there ever is another huge scale war and a sub sinks a nimitz it would be vital to compare it to this event because the US could have prevented it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.170.135 ( talk) 03:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I have recently (30 Dec 2007) read several newspapers articles and articles in online sites that indicate an Australian Defence Force think tank has come to the conclusion that the Collins Class should be retired in 2025 and replaced by a new as yet undesigned 'super sub'. This idea has apparently got support from Australia's new defence minister, whose name eludes me, and is apparently in the process of being ratified by cabinet which is obviously wanting to look 'strong' viz a vie matters of defence since taking power last month. Although various aspects of the article were unsubstantial, such as whether the new submarines should be nuclear or conventional for example, the date of retirement of the 'old' subs seemed quite conclusive. Perhaps a mention of at least the anticipated date of decommission would be appropriate for this article? Just a thought. 58.145.148.3 ( talk) 04:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC) Walt X.
So what's wrong with this section? I read through it and thought it wasn't great, but it didn't seem biased to me. The report was very damning. ASC and kockums did an appalling job, if the intention was to build a safe submarine that could attack other vessels, soon after it was launched. Which i think is what we paid for. Greglocock ( talk) 03:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the article, I see a number of problems that need to be addressed, both overall and specifically in the "McIntosh-Prescott report", which appears to cop the worst of it. Some of the problems are:
When I get some time over the next day or two, I will have a crack at improving the article to solve some or all of these problems. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. -- saberwyn 03:31, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
there are numerous problems with this page, if you want help i would suggest PM'ing GF at this link, a read of this thread will show he knows what he is talking about http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3875 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.254.70.9 ( talk) 18:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
The massive content expansion promised in the above section has been dumped into mainspace. Just a few notes regarding this
That's about it for now. Thoughs? Comments? Flames? -- saberwyn 07:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Saberwyn undid addition because he considered it overly-detalied, newsarticle-type content
i feel deleting isnt the right thing as the information gets lost, editing is the sensible way and i have edited it to its minimum info
A prototype hose will be tested extensively in 2008 and certified for use before full production of replacement hoses occurs for fitting to submarines http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21285627-31477,00.html
I think it is misleading to say that only half the submarine fleet is active. It seems inconsistent with the treatment of other submarine classes. Submarines go in and out of intermediate and deep maintenance, training, workup, etc...that does not mean they are not 'active'. The term is not official Navy language and so should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by thefunnelweb ( talk • contribs)
3 is currently correct though the RAN is on track to make this 4 submarines with 4 crews by the end of 2011 Longinus007 ( talk) 18:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Seriously do you even understand how the cycle works ? of course the navy only have enough crews to operate 3 subs, how many do you think you can have operational at any given time in a 6 sub fleet ? And BTW, active normally means "commissioned" so if you look at the majority of "information" on Wiki regarding military equipment, especially naval ships, the active equates to commissioned ships of a particular class — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.31.46 ( talk) 12:02, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
6 active boats as in operational? Not including the 2 that are always in maint? So out of service. Then 2 are only ever in service as there is ONLY FOUR CREWS, 2 on and 2 off. So 2 are pointless and have been since the day launched. So even if theres no boats being serviced and not usable, that makes 2 active, with 4 in war.-- Thelawlollol ( talk) 09:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Article itself states there is 4 crews and only 2 in service! so in all real situations only 2 are currently active and 4 possibly, which will be interesting when theres 12 additional outdated and pointless subs and still only 4 crews for them.-- Thelawlollol ( talk) 09:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
(This relates to several other comments on this page.)
I would respectfully suggest that the majority of the "Operational History" section be deleted. It reads like a government PR campaign to try to convince the reader of the "worthiness" of the submarine.
For the uninitiated, let me point out that war games exercises are designed to expose flaws. They are rarely created as "fair fights". If you want to know how a US Navy carrier group will respond to a surprise attack by a diesel-electric sub, you create a situation in which the sub has a tactical advantage and the carrier group is disadvantaged. Then you wait to see how much damage the sub will do before the carrier's defenses kick in. Put differently, exercises seek to identify the weak spots in each vessel, not to determine which vessel is superior.
This is why the endless, carefully itemized examples in the "Operation History" section are irrelevant. All they prove is that the Collins sub is a modern military machine. Well... we knew that to begin with. The Collins class is effective. That's all that needs be said. 67.68.47.151 ( talk) 20:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
I work for Thales, the Sonar provider on Collins and cleaned up a few errors recently. Someone threatened them for deletion so wanted to clear it up. I spend 9 years on the submarines so hoped to have helped out.
The intercept array was previously listed as an Argo EW system - this is a Thales Intercept (Paris Pylon) is the generic family name.
The periscopes are a new addition, the boats have had them classwide since launch
The completion of the rollout of the new Combat system was incorrectly listed as 2010, this wont happen until the last submarine receives it during FCD
The Sonar hasnt even begun to be upgraded yet, reference for the upgrade is the Defence DCP on the DMO website - earliest commencement of the program is 2017
Cheers!
Longinus007 ( talk) 18:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
This diff http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Collins_class_submarine&diff=500378415&oldid=495065791 shows some recent additions. I am loathe to get rid of interesting content but at the same time it sounds a bit like OR or opinion to me. Greglocock ( talk) 05:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I've just removed the 'surviving' block of uncited text, as after almost two months, nobody appears to have been able to find supporting sources. Most of the material added by the IP(s) was fairly extreme, and I think that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". In case anyone can provide sources for the information, I've linked the original insertion diffs and attempted to summarise the claims made:
-- saberwyn 12:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that's fine. Shame really, it /sounded/ interesting. Greglocock ( talk) 23:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Should this article be moved to Collins-class submarine per MOS:TITLE? Peacemaker67 ( send... over) 01:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Cyberbot II has detected that page contains external links that have either been globally or locally blacklisted. Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed, or are highly innappropriate for Wikipedia. This, however, doesn't necessarily mean it's spam, or not a good link. If the link is a good link, you may wish to request whitelisting by going to the request page for whitelisting. If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the blacklist request page. If the link is blacklisted globally and you feel the above applies you may request to whitelist it using the before mentioned request page, or request its removal, or alteration, at the request page on meta. When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags. The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true. Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
\bnaval-technology\.com\b
on the local blacklistIf you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.— cyberbot II NotifyOnline 11:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Resolved This issue has been resolved, and I have therefore removed the tag, if not already done. No further action is necessary.—
cyberbot II
NotifyOnline
19:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
As notable as Goon? Hcobb ( talk) 21:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, more links:
Each of the six boats costs twice as much to sustain and operate as an American nuclear submarine, while falling far short
The chief executive officer of the DMO, Warren King, has previously acknowledged, publicly, issues with Collins sustainment
A state-of-the-art, highly capable MOTS submarine providing perhaps 90 per cent of the required capability and saving $26 billion to be spent on other vital Defence capability is the only option this Government should contemplate, Mr Patrick said.
It's not like Rex is particularity shy on barking at the sub program. Hcobb ( talk) 10:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Collins-class submarine. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 18:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 02:21, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 04:21, 9 February 2020 (UTC)