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Please help me make this site better! I'm working under the Court of Appeals, for Columbia Law School, to educate and enhance knowledge of collateral consequences of criminal charges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwguy 34 ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 22 March 2006
In its current state (June 25 06), this article seems to be about the US legal system only, but just talks about "the" legal system as if this were the only one in the world. (A usual. God I hate Americans. Wish I weren't one.) It urgently needs to be clarified which countries this applies to.
If you think so, then do the work instead of just whining. (God, Europeans are annoying.)
I am wondering about the ABA's website, www.abacollateralconsequences.org, which lists 46,469 state collateral consequences. The ABA website says the "project was supported by Award No.2009-IJ-CX-0102 awarded by the National Institute of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, U.S. Department of Justice and by the ABA Criminal Justice Section." Should be authoritative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.120.85 ( talk) 18:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
The consequences don't begin until conviction. Just being charged isn't enough because in the U.S. a person is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, the further state civil consequences can't begin until the criminal conviction either by trial or plea. Malke 2010 ( talk) 22:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
The U.S. is the only country in which collateral consequences matter because U.S. criminal laws are so harsh. I'm going to move this back soon unless anyone objects. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 16:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
I am removing "Ifeoma Ajunwa argues that the collateral consequences of conviction could be analogized to a "Modern Day Scarlet Letter", as they disproportionately adversely impact women (black women especially) because of the intersectional identities of
the women who go to prison.Ajunwa, Ifeoma (2015).
"The Modern Day Scarlet Letter". 83 Fordham L. Rev. 2999 (2015). {{
cite journal}}
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help)CS1 maint: location (
link)" from the lead - mainly because it seems to be
WP:UNDUE weight, but also because the source (its note 58) cites
these fact sheets for a disproportionately harsh sentencing of women for drug crime, which I cannot see in the fact sheets.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 19:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC).
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See DBS checks etc. Some short term convicts (one for puling a pig face when 17 at a cop!) commit suicide. Zezen ( talk) 18:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
The Reentry Working Group advocates to secure robust federal policy and funding for programs to assist formerly incarcerated individuals and/or people with criminal legal histories in achieving long-term reentry success, including supporting themselves and their families, and engaging with their communities [1] https://www.reentryworkinggroup.org/ Catfish2008 ( talk) 02:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please help me make this site better! I'm working under the Court of Appeals, for Columbia Law School, to educate and enhance knowledge of collateral consequences of criminal charges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwguy 34 ( talk • contribs) 19:27, 22 March 2006
In its current state (June 25 06), this article seems to be about the US legal system only, but just talks about "the" legal system as if this were the only one in the world. (A usual. God I hate Americans. Wish I weren't one.) It urgently needs to be clarified which countries this applies to.
If you think so, then do the work instead of just whining. (God, Europeans are annoying.)
I am wondering about the ABA's website, www.abacollateralconsequences.org, which lists 46,469 state collateral consequences. The ABA website says the "project was supported by Award No.2009-IJ-CX-0102 awarded by the National Institute of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, U.S. Department of Justice and by the ABA Criminal Justice Section." Should be authoritative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.120.85 ( talk) 18:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
The consequences don't begin until conviction. Just being charged isn't enough because in the U.S. a person is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, the further state civil consequences can't begin until the criminal conviction either by trial or plea. Malke 2010 ( talk) 22:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
The U.S. is the only country in which collateral consequences matter because U.S. criminal laws are so harsh. I'm going to move this back soon unless anyone objects. -- Coolcaesar ( talk) 16:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
I am removing "Ifeoma Ajunwa argues that the collateral consequences of conviction could be analogized to a "Modern Day Scarlet Letter", as they disproportionately adversely impact women (black women especially) because of the intersectional identities of
the women who go to prison.Ajunwa, Ifeoma (2015).
"The Modern Day Scarlet Letter". 83 Fordham L. Rev. 2999 (2015). {{
cite journal}}
: Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)CS1 maint: location (
link)" from the lead - mainly because it seems to be
WP:UNDUE weight, but also because the source (its note 58) cites
these fact sheets for a disproportionately harsh sentencing of women for drug crime, which I cannot see in the fact sheets.
All the best:
Rich
Farmbrough, 19:43, 10 February 2016 (UTC).
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See DBS checks etc. Some short term convicts (one for puling a pig face when 17 at a cop!) commit suicide. Zezen ( talk) 18:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
The Reentry Working Group advocates to secure robust federal policy and funding for programs to assist formerly incarcerated individuals and/or people with criminal legal histories in achieving long-term reentry success, including supporting themselves and their families, and engaging with their communities [1] https://www.reentryworkinggroup.org/ Catfish2008 ( talk) 02:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)