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...Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this page is more of an ice-cream menu than something about the company. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I'm just saying.
I did create this article, and I felt that a recent BusinessWeek article compelled me to do this. Well, I guess Stone City (game) could be moved there.
The logo underneath the title seems a bit out of place. Should someone move it? Tamajared 21:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Removed uncited claim. Add it later if you have the facts. Seems like a lot of the edits on this page are from Marble Slab corporate goons trying to use wikipedia to undermine their competitors. Nice job, guys. Real classy.
There are a couple stores in Puerto Rico and it keeps expanding.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BoricuaPR ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
I just added the neutrality tag. There is nothing negative to balence out the positive in this article. -- Umalee 02:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Super-premium is actually a class of ice cream that contains large amounts of butter fat, I believe in excess of 10%. -- Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 20:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
"Continuing in the absurdity of customer-facing tips jars for the remuneration of work already adequately compensated"
Does that comment seem to express an opinion that is unwarranted in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.173.127.131 ( talk) 02:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
"Like other franchises, Cold Stone Creamery attempts to provide customers with similar service at every store by supplying instructional material and training videos to franchise owners."
Right; that's what a franchise is. 68.81.106.2 05:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
All of Cold Stone's ice creams (including milkshakes made from their ice cream) excluding the "sinless fat-free ice-cream" and sorbets contain significant amounts of transfat. [1]
I removed the transfat paragraph because there is no reason to specifically mention the amount of transfat in Cold Stone ice cream. Trans fats occur naturally in most ice creams. Why not just list all of the ingredients and their nutritional content?
Erickroh (
talk)
02:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The natural amount of transfat in the ice cream (due to the dairy product) is negligable and generally non-harmful. You can compare the amount of transfat in Cold Stone's ice cream to Ben & Jerry's, Edy's, Haagen Dazs', Baskin Robbins', etc, and find insuffecient amounts to even list on the label, as opposed to Cold Stone's amounts far above the limit recommended by the FDA. I'm adding it back--it's pertinent information. Sailoralea ( talk)
http://www.marbleslab.com/nutritional-info/ice-cream-nutritional-statement.pdf
http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/assets/pdf/nutrition/Nutrition_Info_IceCream_06_03_09.pdf
Akuvar ( talk) 00:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Your research is not allowed: By making all of the factual comparisons and present your results violates WP:No original research an is not allowable. Unless you can produce a source that meets the standards of inclusion, you cannot introduce such data to the article. -- Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!) 02:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I just edited the controversy heading in the article, after reading the Gibson article that was being paraphrased. I tried to clean it up. Then I realized this article is also referenced in the History portion of the article. It should not be referenced twice. I feel that the article is less "history" of the company and more appropriately in a section titled "controversy" so I am moving it there and deleting all my previous edits of that section in favor of the way it was worded under "history" Akuvar ( talk) 22:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I just removed the "Controversy" section. It was a summary of an article from 2008 and seemed to be given too much prominence when compared with the overall history of the chain (i.e. skewed toward recent events). And even if it does belong somewhere in the article, it doesn't belong under a "Controversy" subhead, but either in History or some new subhead. Erickroh ( talk) 20:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
An editor made a change to the article regarding the description of Tim Horton's. It had been written as "iconic coffee house" which was probably a little over-the-top, and changed it to "donut shop" which is probably a little basic. If you visit the Time Horton's website www.timhortons.com they label themselves as a coffee store. To Americans the Tim Horton's chain isn't a big deal, but in Canada, it is the largest quick serve restaurant chain in the country and is a pretty big deal. I am going to change the entry to "coffee chain" because that is a little closer to a true description. I encourage all editors to make a discussion point before changing the article so that interested editors can weigh in before article changes are made. Akuvar ( talk) 00:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Editor Jeremy43 just made several, major changes to the main article without posting any material in the discussions page for other editors to review or discuss prior to the changes being made. Some of the new material is false, and the supporting footnotes do not reference the data so are not valid sources for the false data in the first place. Specifically, the new material now says that the headquarters was moved to Scottsdale AZ in 2005 (which is incorrect) and is immediately followed by a footnote taking you to the cold stone history page, where there is no mention of the headquarters being established in Scottsdale in 2005, or any other year. The statement was also added that that the ice cream contains a 16% butterfat content, which is also incorrect. No supporting footnote is offered for this information. Why were such sweeping changes made to the main article without discussing them with other editors? why is incorrect information being introduced complete with footnotes that do not support it? I urge all editors to discuss changes with other editors before changes to the article are made, or at least open a discussion area describing the changes you made and why you felt it was needed. I also urge editor Jeremy43 to revert these changes and create an appropriate discussion area for all editors to review the information. Akuvar ( talk) 00:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
(I moved his comment down here because it disrupted the formatting of my statements, I have not changed the content of his statements - Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!))
Reply-
(The first comment is in response to my first point above -
Jeremy (
blah blah •
I did it!))
Never said it was, I simply urged all editors to open discussions on changes so they do not make the poor decisions that you did.
Akuvar (
talk)
00:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
How much research on this would you like me to do? Above you said "Your research is not allowed: By making all of the factual comparisons and present your results violates WP:No original research an is not allowable. Unless you can produce a source that meets the standards of inclusion, you cannot introduce such data to the article. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 02:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)" Akuvar ( talk) 00:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I think my "rant" is justified. You came to this page and made major edits to it, some of which are flat our false. It is insulting to other editors who try to introduce new, relevant, and factual material in a responsible fashion. How else am I supposed to address your poor edit choices? Akuvar ( talk) 00:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The company's main product is super premium ice cream, or ice cream made with approximately 16% butterfat, that is made on location and customized to order for customer at the time of purchase.
The company's main product is super premium ice cream that is made on location and customized to order for customer at the time of purchase. Most brands of super premium ice cream are made with approximately 16% butterfat.
Someone made a video game for the Wii licensing their name, where you run an ice cream parlor. Look here: http://kotaku.com/5439604/cold-stone-creamery-scoop-it-up-so-you-dont-have-to -- 69.151.15.152 ( talk) 23:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Wikipedia Editors, As a representative of the Cold Stone brand, I wanted to provide a couple links to additional information about the brand in an effort to make the article more complete. I was told by the Wikipedia help team that the discussion page was the proper venue to do so.
These first 2 links are to articles that contain additional information about the brand's history: http://www.qsrmagazine.com/issue/55/birthday/cs_creamery.phtml http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/sct0103/page25.php
These next links are to articles that provide information about our Tastemaster - the person who develops Cold Stone's menu offerings: http://www.foodchannel.com/stories/1602-karam-takes-cold-stone-into-new-territory http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-09-27/best-of-phoenix/tasty-freeze-ray-karam/
Do with them what you'd like, I just wanted to provide some resources to additional information about the brand.
Thanks! ( JoanTeller ( talk) 01:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC))
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
...Maybe it's just me, but it feels like this page is more of an ice-cream menu than something about the company. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I'm just saying.
I did create this article, and I felt that a recent BusinessWeek article compelled me to do this. Well, I guess Stone City (game) could be moved there.
The logo underneath the title seems a bit out of place. Should someone move it? Tamajared 21:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Removed uncited claim. Add it later if you have the facts. Seems like a lot of the edits on this page are from Marble Slab corporate goons trying to use wikipedia to undermine their competitors. Nice job, guys. Real classy.
There are a couple stores in Puerto Rico and it keeps expanding.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BoricuaPR ( talk • contribs) 04:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
I just added the neutrality tag. There is nothing negative to balence out the positive in this article. -- Umalee 02:04, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Super-premium is actually a class of ice cream that contains large amounts of butter fat, I believe in excess of 10%. -- Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 20:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
"Continuing in the absurdity of customer-facing tips jars for the remuneration of work already adequately compensated"
Does that comment seem to express an opinion that is unwarranted in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.173.127.131 ( talk) 02:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC).
"Like other franchises, Cold Stone Creamery attempts to provide customers with similar service at every store by supplying instructional material and training videos to franchise owners."
Right; that's what a franchise is. 68.81.106.2 05:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
All of Cold Stone's ice creams (including milkshakes made from their ice cream) excluding the "sinless fat-free ice-cream" and sorbets contain significant amounts of transfat. [1]
I removed the transfat paragraph because there is no reason to specifically mention the amount of transfat in Cold Stone ice cream. Trans fats occur naturally in most ice creams. Why not just list all of the ingredients and their nutritional content?
Erickroh (
talk)
02:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
The natural amount of transfat in the ice cream (due to the dairy product) is negligable and generally non-harmful. You can compare the amount of transfat in Cold Stone's ice cream to Ben & Jerry's, Edy's, Haagen Dazs', Baskin Robbins', etc, and find insuffecient amounts to even list on the label, as opposed to Cold Stone's amounts far above the limit recommended by the FDA. I'm adding it back--it's pertinent information. Sailoralea ( talk)
http://www.marbleslab.com/nutritional-info/ice-cream-nutritional-statement.pdf
http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/assets/pdf/nutrition/Nutrition_Info_IceCream_06_03_09.pdf
Akuvar ( talk) 00:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Your research is not allowed: By making all of the factual comparisons and present your results violates WP:No original research an is not allowable. Unless you can produce a source that meets the standards of inclusion, you cannot introduce such data to the article. -- Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!) 02:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
I just edited the controversy heading in the article, after reading the Gibson article that was being paraphrased. I tried to clean it up. Then I realized this article is also referenced in the History portion of the article. It should not be referenced twice. I feel that the article is less "history" of the company and more appropriately in a section titled "controversy" so I am moving it there and deleting all my previous edits of that section in favor of the way it was worded under "history" Akuvar ( talk) 22:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I just removed the "Controversy" section. It was a summary of an article from 2008 and seemed to be given too much prominence when compared with the overall history of the chain (i.e. skewed toward recent events). And even if it does belong somewhere in the article, it doesn't belong under a "Controversy" subhead, but either in History or some new subhead. Erickroh ( talk) 20:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
An editor made a change to the article regarding the description of Tim Horton's. It had been written as "iconic coffee house" which was probably a little over-the-top, and changed it to "donut shop" which is probably a little basic. If you visit the Time Horton's website www.timhortons.com they label themselves as a coffee store. To Americans the Tim Horton's chain isn't a big deal, but in Canada, it is the largest quick serve restaurant chain in the country and is a pretty big deal. I am going to change the entry to "coffee chain" because that is a little closer to a true description. I encourage all editors to make a discussion point before changing the article so that interested editors can weigh in before article changes are made. Akuvar ( talk) 00:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Editor Jeremy43 just made several, major changes to the main article without posting any material in the discussions page for other editors to review or discuss prior to the changes being made. Some of the new material is false, and the supporting footnotes do not reference the data so are not valid sources for the false data in the first place. Specifically, the new material now says that the headquarters was moved to Scottsdale AZ in 2005 (which is incorrect) and is immediately followed by a footnote taking you to the cold stone history page, where there is no mention of the headquarters being established in Scottsdale in 2005, or any other year. The statement was also added that that the ice cream contains a 16% butterfat content, which is also incorrect. No supporting footnote is offered for this information. Why were such sweeping changes made to the main article without discussing them with other editors? why is incorrect information being introduced complete with footnotes that do not support it? I urge all editors to discuss changes with other editors before changes to the article are made, or at least open a discussion area describing the changes you made and why you felt it was needed. I also urge editor Jeremy43 to revert these changes and create an appropriate discussion area for all editors to review the information. Akuvar ( talk) 00:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
(I moved his comment down here because it disrupted the formatting of my statements, I have not changed the content of his statements - Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!))
Reply-
(The first comment is in response to my first point above -
Jeremy (
blah blah •
I did it!))
Never said it was, I simply urged all editors to open discussions on changes so they do not make the poor decisions that you did.
Akuvar (
talk)
00:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
How much research on this would you like me to do? Above you said "Your research is not allowed: By making all of the factual comparisons and present your results violates WP:No original research an is not allowable. Unless you can produce a source that meets the standards of inclusion, you cannot introduce such data to the article. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 02:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)" Akuvar ( talk) 00:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I think my "rant" is justified. You came to this page and made major edits to it, some of which are flat our false. It is insulting to other editors who try to introduce new, relevant, and factual material in a responsible fashion. How else am I supposed to address your poor edit choices? Akuvar ( talk) 00:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
The company's main product is super premium ice cream, or ice cream made with approximately 16% butterfat, that is made on location and customized to order for customer at the time of purchase.
The company's main product is super premium ice cream that is made on location and customized to order for customer at the time of purchase. Most brands of super premium ice cream are made with approximately 16% butterfat.
Someone made a video game for the Wii licensing their name, where you run an ice cream parlor. Look here: http://kotaku.com/5439604/cold-stone-creamery-scoop-it-up-so-you-dont-have-to -- 69.151.15.152 ( talk) 23:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Wikipedia Editors, As a representative of the Cold Stone brand, I wanted to provide a couple links to additional information about the brand in an effort to make the article more complete. I was told by the Wikipedia help team that the discussion page was the proper venue to do so.
These first 2 links are to articles that contain additional information about the brand's history: http://www.qsrmagazine.com/issue/55/birthday/cs_creamery.phtml http://www.icsc.org/srch/sct/sct0103/page25.php
These next links are to articles that provide information about our Tastemaster - the person who develops Cold Stone's menu offerings: http://www.foodchannel.com/stories/1602-karam-takes-cold-stone-into-new-territory http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-09-27/best-of-phoenix/tasty-freeze-ray-karam/
Do with them what you'd like, I just wanted to provide some resources to additional information about the brand.
Thanks! ( JoanTeller ( talk) 01:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC))