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This article is pretty pathetic. 65.167.146.130 ( talk) 18:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC) its cold in here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.225.44 ( talk) 13:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice, interesting and extensible! Why dissolve it within another article? 79.200.67.162 ( talk) 12:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm just a non-physicist Dutch speaking guy, but ehm, why does it say that cooling of an object by exposure to ice, dry ice, or liquid nitrogen is done by convection? I'm thinking thermal conductivity, and if done in a fluid or gas (not ice!) convection might just occur, right? I hope some natively English speaking lab guy picks this part up. Rogier —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.209.229.159 ( talk) 09:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
The statement “a cold object will contain less thermal energy than a hot object” is not true. It depends on the mass of the objects and the specific heat of the objects. Geweber ( talk) 21:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know much about thermodynamics, but I am fairly certain that absolute zero is theoretically impossible. Am I right about this? If I am then the article should be changed to reflect that. Eiad77 ( talk) 08:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Not really the scientific opposite of "hot," but rather the absence of heat. May be grammatically true, but this is not Wiktionary, but an encyclopedia. As pointed out above, while an absolute lack of heat cannot be achieved, we know where that is. We don't really know how hot it can get. Student7 ( talk) 02:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I mean, if say you kept every known elemental metal at -40° and then measured the temperature of the survice of them, which would be the lowest? Robo37 ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Looking at this page I am undecided about what works best - a strict chronological flow with divisions based on age (as current), or divide into Research/Theory, Industrial cooling, and Residential cooling. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 19:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I've changed all the dates to yyyy-mm-dd as an editor changed the lot from a combination of MDY & DMY to all MDY,
This isn't an American article so therefore the dates shouldn't of been all converted to mdy and it'd be the same for dmy - Both date formats should be used but seeing as it'd take forever to change some individually I feel this is the only best way of doing it,
Had this been an American topic then I'd happily let one knock themselves out but it's not .... Us British feel the cold as well!
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07:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)In the living sciences, the idea of cold is one of those basic things where if you know cold weather affects a particular place, you know part of why the society does the things it does - you know why it builds the shelters it does, why it uses resources the way it does, why it develops the work forms and social forms that it does, and why it develops the types of inward and outward agendas that it does. This topic of how cold affects human living should be mentioned in this article, and should after a while be developed into an article on its own.
People who haven't ever lived in the cold don't have the same sensibilities of people who live in or come from the cold. There is an idea of human migrations that deals with the cold as a major factor. People living in extreme warmth have ways of ameliorating their exposure, typically by relaxing during midday when temperatures are at their highest. Conflicts also - how a people might have moved to the cold to escape problems in the warm, or moved to the warm because severe cold environments are difficult. And understanding the cold (and warm) is important to understanding global politics altogether, people living in the cold have high resource demands and also desires to migrate to warmer climates, affecting the cost of living in warm zones. A major part of Western world history is the problem of warm deserts as unsuitable places for habitation, but some of that is changing with refrigeration and cheaper energy. - Inowen ( nlfte) 00:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Article needs a Weather section. - Inowen ( nlfte) 21:49, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to add the Hermite crater in the list of notable cold places. Temp0000002 ( talk) 18:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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This article is pretty pathetic. 65.167.146.130 ( talk) 18:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC) its cold in here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.225.44 ( talk) 13:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Nice, interesting and extensible! Why dissolve it within another article? 79.200.67.162 ( talk) 12:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm just a non-physicist Dutch speaking guy, but ehm, why does it say that cooling of an object by exposure to ice, dry ice, or liquid nitrogen is done by convection? I'm thinking thermal conductivity, and if done in a fluid or gas (not ice!) convection might just occur, right? I hope some natively English speaking lab guy picks this part up. Rogier —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.209.229.159 ( talk) 09:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
The statement “a cold object will contain less thermal energy than a hot object” is not true. It depends on the mass of the objects and the specific heat of the objects. Geweber ( talk) 21:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know much about thermodynamics, but I am fairly certain that absolute zero is theoretically impossible. Am I right about this? If I am then the article should be changed to reflect that. Eiad77 ( talk) 08:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Not really the scientific opposite of "hot," but rather the absence of heat. May be grammatically true, but this is not Wiktionary, but an encyclopedia. As pointed out above, while an absolute lack of heat cannot be achieved, we know where that is. We don't really know how hot it can get. Student7 ( talk) 02:54, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I mean, if say you kept every known elemental metal at -40° and then measured the temperature of the survice of them, which would be the lowest? Robo37 ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Looking at this page I am undecided about what works best - a strict chronological flow with divisions based on age (as current), or divide into Research/Theory, Industrial cooling, and Residential cooling. Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 19:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
I've changed all the dates to yyyy-mm-dd as an editor changed the lot from a combination of MDY & DMY to all MDY,
This isn't an American article so therefore the dates shouldn't of been all converted to mdy and it'd be the same for dmy - Both date formats should be used but seeing as it'd take forever to change some individually I feel this is the only best way of doing it,
Had this been an American topic then I'd happily let one knock themselves out but it's not .... Us British feel the cold as well!
. –
Davey2010
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23:07, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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00:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
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07:21, 24 February 2016 (UTC)In the living sciences, the idea of cold is one of those basic things where if you know cold weather affects a particular place, you know part of why the society does the things it does - you know why it builds the shelters it does, why it uses resources the way it does, why it develops the work forms and social forms that it does, and why it develops the types of inward and outward agendas that it does. This topic of how cold affects human living should be mentioned in this article, and should after a while be developed into an article on its own.
People who haven't ever lived in the cold don't have the same sensibilities of people who live in or come from the cold. There is an idea of human migrations that deals with the cold as a major factor. People living in extreme warmth have ways of ameliorating their exposure, typically by relaxing during midday when temperatures are at their highest. Conflicts also - how a people might have moved to the cold to escape problems in the warm, or moved to the warm because severe cold environments are difficult. And understanding the cold (and warm) is important to understanding global politics altogether, people living in the cold have high resource demands and also desires to migrate to warmer climates, affecting the cost of living in warm zones. A major part of Western world history is the problem of warm deserts as unsuitable places for habitation, but some of that is changing with refrigeration and cheaper energy. - Inowen ( nlfte) 00:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
Article needs a Weather section. - Inowen ( nlfte) 21:49, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea to add the Hermite crater in the list of notable cold places. Temp0000002 ( talk) 18:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)