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In any case this was bad practice. If "Rienzo" is to be the preferred spelling (I believe it is, indeed), then the Rienzi article should have been moved to Rienzo, preserving its history, and a new Rienzi->Rienzo redirect created. I'm no admin, can't do it.
RodC22:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)reply
Rienzo and Fascism
I seem to recall that Rienzo inspired Mussolini and a number of the Italian Fascists as a model for an authoritarian revolution. Does anyone know more about this?
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18:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Haven't read anything about it myself. The biography I have cites Victor Fleischer's Rienzo: Rise and Fall of a Dictator and also Ferdinand Gregorovius' work in the one sentence it devotes to discussing him as a proto-fascist.
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Article is rife with both unbecoming point of view and lack of references. If the authors deem themselves as to possess the style - though neither the quality nor the eloquence - of Edward Gibbon, whilst not using any references to substantiate points, the end result becomes an unreadable mess of judgement. For example:
"He then seized, but soon released, Stefano Colonna and some other barons who had spoken disparagingly of him. But his power was already beginning to wane, as this sudden exaltation intoxicated his understanding, and exhibited feelings entirely incompatible with his elevated condition."
The first sentence may well be okay, but needs to be referenced (I believe Gibbon, Vol.6). The second sentence is a beautiful judgement (if, again, by someone unnamed), but remains entirely inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. Instead, "Contemporary writers (c.f. ref) believe their release was evidence of his waning power,..." &c., would be considerably better (in the context of modern times encyclopaedia). My apologies for ranting about this without actually improving the article. —Preceding
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In any case this was bad practice. If "Rienzo" is to be the preferred spelling (I believe it is, indeed), then the Rienzi article should have been moved to Rienzo, preserving its history, and a new Rienzi->Rienzo redirect created. I'm no admin, can't do it.
RodC22:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)reply
Rienzo and Fascism
I seem to recall that Rienzo inspired Mussolini and a number of the Italian Fascists as a model for an authoritarian revolution. Does anyone know more about this?
--
Train guard (
talk)
18:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)reply
Haven't read anything about it myself. The biography I have cites Victor Fleischer's Rienzo: Rise and Fall of a Dictator and also Ferdinand Gregorovius' work in the one sentence it devotes to discussing him as a proto-fascist.
Ministry of Silly Walks (
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22:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)reply
Cleaning up
Article is rife with both unbecoming point of view and lack of references. If the authors deem themselves as to possess the style - though neither the quality nor the eloquence - of Edward Gibbon, whilst not using any references to substantiate points, the end result becomes an unreadable mess of judgement. For example:
"He then seized, but soon released, Stefano Colonna and some other barons who had spoken disparagingly of him. But his power was already beginning to wane, as this sudden exaltation intoxicated his understanding, and exhibited feelings entirely incompatible with his elevated condition."
The first sentence may well be okay, but needs to be referenced (I believe Gibbon, Vol.6). The second sentence is a beautiful judgement (if, again, by someone unnamed), but remains entirely inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. Instead, "Contemporary writers (c.f. ref) believe their release was evidence of his waning power,..." &c., would be considerably better (in the context of modern times encyclopaedia). My apologies for ranting about this without actually improving the article. —Preceding
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09:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)reply