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Commons:File:Coexist-bumpersticker.jpg exists but it is a copyright violation. I've nominated it for deletion with a recommendation of "reduce quality and transwiki to :en . If you add the image please watchlist both the Commons file and the does-not-exist-yet :en file at en:File:Coexist-bumpersticker.jpg.
The original was downloaded from Flickr at https://www.flickr.com/photos/pbyrne/165212878/ . It is (or was) labeled as "free" on Flickr but http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/21/coexist-s-bonehead-bumper-sticker-politics.html stongly suggests it is not free. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
In light of these ( [1], [2], [3], and more) which talk about the symbol's use by the original creator and by Bono's ( U2) use of it, I think we should expand the scope of this article to include all uses of the symbol
If we do that in the next few days, there's a good chance it can be WP:DYN material.
If there are no objections within the next day or so, I invite any editor to move the page to CoeXisT (symbol) ( CoeXist and Coexist should not coexist unless one of them is a redirect, it's just too confusing), create a redirect at Coexist (symbol), and start expanding the article. If nobody objects and nobody moves it, I will move it myself. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 02:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
There's more than enough material, it just needs to be filled in, tightened up, and run through a review. We've got a few more days before we have to submit it but I'd like to submit it by Wednesday evening (USA time) if possible. Please look at Wikipedia:Did you know and make whatever changes are needed to increase the quality of the article and increase the chances this will be on the main page.
By the way, as much as I'd like to see the concert picture on the main page, there's lingering doubt that the concert image - or any image where this design is a prominent part of the image - would be "free" when used in this article, and I don't want to push my luck at DYN review. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 04:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
{{ Did you know nominations/Coexist (image)}}
To get to B-class the "legal disputes" section must be brought up to date, and the other sections should be polished a bit. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 05:35, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Since the original image's authors and the contest sponsors claim (or claimed, as of 2005) that the original art was under copyright and there is good reason to think that copyright is valid in its native country (Poland), [1] any image which includes the Crescent (or Crescent and star) for the C, the Start of David for the X, and a Cross for the T should probably be considered "a derivative of a work which is non-PD in its country of origin, and which as of 2005 was claimed to be under copyright in the United States, and therefore under a copyright cloud". It would help a lot if someone could find a definitive legal answer to the question of its US copyright status. As for derivative images, if they were created in the United States and are clearly NOT pd-ineligible they will have their own copyrights attached to them, even if they underlying work is deemed pd-ineligible in the United States. The bottom four images at Jen (2008-05-27) ("External links") are examples of images that almost certainly contain a US copyright above and beyond that of the original design. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 14:08, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
References
CC: @ Davidwr, Tbhotch, Dohn joe, Claire Parker, Malaiya, and Akamarck:
Coexist Foundation and Coexist (image) are both pages that on their own could easily be categorized as a stub. I propose merging Coexist (image) with Coexist Foundation into the existing disambiguation page Coexist, with the for hatnote. The opening paragraphs could talk briefly about the movement, image and organization, with subsequent sections with more details. GeekInParadise ( talk) 20:14, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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A fact from Coexist (image) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 2 December 2015 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Commons:File:Coexist-bumpersticker.jpg exists but it is a copyright violation. I've nominated it for deletion with a recommendation of "reduce quality and transwiki to :en . If you add the image please watchlist both the Commons file and the does-not-exist-yet :en file at en:File:Coexist-bumpersticker.jpg.
The original was downloaded from Flickr at https://www.flickr.com/photos/pbyrne/165212878/ . It is (or was) labeled as "free" on Flickr but http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/21/coexist-s-bonehead-bumper-sticker-politics.html stongly suggests it is not free. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
In light of these ( [1], [2], [3], and more) which talk about the symbol's use by the original creator and by Bono's ( U2) use of it, I think we should expand the scope of this article to include all uses of the symbol
If we do that in the next few days, there's a good chance it can be WP:DYN material.
If there are no objections within the next day or so, I invite any editor to move the page to CoeXisT (symbol) ( CoeXist and Coexist should not coexist unless one of them is a redirect, it's just too confusing), create a redirect at Coexist (symbol), and start expanding the article. If nobody objects and nobody moves it, I will move it myself. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 02:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
There's more than enough material, it just needs to be filled in, tightened up, and run through a review. We've got a few more days before we have to submit it but I'd like to submit it by Wednesday evening (USA time) if possible. Please look at Wikipedia:Did you know and make whatever changes are needed to increase the quality of the article and increase the chances this will be on the main page.
By the way, as much as I'd like to see the concert picture on the main page, there's lingering doubt that the concert image - or any image where this design is a prominent part of the image - would be "free" when used in this article, and I don't want to push my luck at DYN review. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 04:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
{{ Did you know nominations/Coexist (image)}}
To get to B-class the "legal disputes" section must be brought up to date, and the other sections should be polished a bit. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 05:35, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Since the original image's authors and the contest sponsors claim (or claimed, as of 2005) that the original art was under copyright and there is good reason to think that copyright is valid in its native country (Poland), [1] any image which includes the Crescent (or Crescent and star) for the C, the Start of David for the X, and a Cross for the T should probably be considered "a derivative of a work which is non-PD in its country of origin, and which as of 2005 was claimed to be under copyright in the United States, and therefore under a copyright cloud". It would help a lot if someone could find a definitive legal answer to the question of its US copyright status. As for derivative images, if they were created in the United States and are clearly NOT pd-ineligible they will have their own copyrights attached to them, even if they underlying work is deemed pd-ineligible in the United States. The bottom four images at Jen (2008-05-27) ("External links") are examples of images that almost certainly contain a US copyright above and beyond that of the original design. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 14:08, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
References
CC: @ Davidwr, Tbhotch, Dohn joe, Claire Parker, Malaiya, and Akamarck:
Coexist Foundation and Coexist (image) are both pages that on their own could easily be categorized as a stub. I propose merging Coexist (image) with Coexist Foundation into the existing disambiguation page Coexist, with the for hatnote. The opening paragraphs could talk briefly about the movement, image and organization, with subsequent sections with more details. GeekInParadise ( talk) 20:14, 17 March 2019 (UTC)