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It's not clear where the 1975 date came from. It appears on some less-reliable things online. The parent group was incorporated in Iowa in 2016. The USA Today source states "It operates in a 1925 San Jose mansion that formerly housed the Amsterdam's Garden medical marijuana dispensary, shut down last year by San Jose city officials in a citywide crackdown on dispensaries" so it has been at its current location since 2016 at the earliest. ☆ Bri ( talk) 22:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
1975 is when the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church was first established in Iowa. 2016 is when the California branch of the EZCC was established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homewoodhilton ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
This article needs to present a neutral point of view wp:NPOV. Removing facts presented by sources in order to aggressively present a particular point of view is aggressive POV-pushing. We can nominate the article for dispute but should not engage in an edit war.
Coachella Valley Church is notable due to several articles that describe it as marijuana dispensary operating as a church. It is also listed and described as a marijuana dispensary by various other sources. It was not founded in 1975 according to any source but in 2016 according to the CA Secretary of State. The history of litigation and ongoing issues is also what is notable about this 'Church'. NaturaNaturans ( talk)
Neither ignoring the problems with the city nor using loaded terms like "claim" is going to make this article NPOV. So I've waded in and rewritten most of it. I've shortened the summary of beliefs because readers can read about Rastafari theology via links and/or on its own website. I think we should report the city's legal moves via news coverage, not primary court documents, and there must surely be coverage in the press of the history, including the dispensary previously at the location. But for now I hope my bold action has helped put a stop to the edit warring and provided a workable structure for the article. (I also got the coordinates and gave us a new picture, though it's a gloomy day today.) Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Various names are editing this article to lead with details about its operation as a Church. However, the news sources themselves question whether or not it is actually a marijuana dispensary operating as a Church and the City is trying to shut down their operations. The notability of this article is due based on this dispute between the City which calls it a marijuana dispensary and the 'Church'. I edited it to be more even handed and include details of the dispute in the lead but keep getting reverted by various names (who may or may not be the same person or group trying to push their side of this dispute). Its current form is biased and misleading trying to bury the claims that this newly formed 'Church' is actually a marijuana dispensary. NaturaNaturans ( talk) 16:21, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Please note: several editors of this page have been banned for being sock puppets of the creator of this page. See here: [2]. Hope this person stops this disruptive behavior and understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a means of spinning the content or using as an advertisement. NaturaNaturans ( talk) 15:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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It's not clear where the 1975 date came from. It appears on some less-reliable things online. The parent group was incorporated in Iowa in 2016. The USA Today source states "It operates in a 1925 San Jose mansion that formerly housed the Amsterdam's Garden medical marijuana dispensary, shut down last year by San Jose city officials in a citywide crackdown on dispensaries" so it has been at its current location since 2016 at the earliest. ☆ Bri ( talk) 22:05, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
1975 is when the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church was first established in Iowa. 2016 is when the California branch of the EZCC was established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homewoodhilton ( talk • contribs) 15:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
This article needs to present a neutral point of view wp:NPOV. Removing facts presented by sources in order to aggressively present a particular point of view is aggressive POV-pushing. We can nominate the article for dispute but should not engage in an edit war.
Coachella Valley Church is notable due to several articles that describe it as marijuana dispensary operating as a church. It is also listed and described as a marijuana dispensary by various other sources. It was not founded in 1975 according to any source but in 2016 according to the CA Secretary of State. The history of litigation and ongoing issues is also what is notable about this 'Church'. NaturaNaturans ( talk)
Neither ignoring the problems with the city nor using loaded terms like "claim" is going to make this article NPOV. So I've waded in and rewritten most of it. I've shortened the summary of beliefs because readers can read about Rastafari theology via links and/or on its own website. I think we should report the city's legal moves via news coverage, not primary court documents, and there must surely be coverage in the press of the history, including the dispensary previously at the location. But for now I hope my bold action has helped put a stop to the edit warring and provided a workable structure for the article. (I also got the coordinates and gave us a new picture, though it's a gloomy day today.) Yngvadottir ( talk) 00:27, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Various names are editing this article to lead with details about its operation as a Church. However, the news sources themselves question whether or not it is actually a marijuana dispensary operating as a Church and the City is trying to shut down their operations. The notability of this article is due based on this dispute between the City which calls it a marijuana dispensary and the 'Church'. I edited it to be more even handed and include details of the dispute in the lead but keep getting reverted by various names (who may or may not be the same person or group trying to push their side of this dispute). Its current form is biased and misleading trying to bury the claims that this newly formed 'Church' is actually a marijuana dispensary. NaturaNaturans ( talk) 16:21, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Please note: several editors of this page have been banned for being sock puppets of the creator of this page. See here: [2]. Hope this person stops this disruptive behavior and understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a means of spinning the content or using as an advertisement. NaturaNaturans ( talk) 15:50, 29 January 2018 (UTC)