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Removed the Naruto line, as the specific example just didn't fit the listing of general usages listed. And a listing of every character in every book that uses a cloak is not something to be useful for a fashion page (and certainly wasn't for me when I browsed here hoping for the distinction between cloak and cape). It's not even a good (or clear) example of "cloak and dagger"--it seemed only to have that phrase and not its meaning--as opposed to the Harry Potter example which is clear, useful, and short. -- Squeeself 10:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I am not sure how this article got rated as such. If anyone is reading this, then we are in the remotest corner of the oddest subculture in the universe. If we were virtual, we could hide here for a million years. This article is an oubliette. Strangely cool.-- Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 15:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
The page though its illustrations gives the impression that cloaks are either primally or soley women's clothing. That is absurd. First Consider the phrase cloak and dagger. Who is wearing the cloak then? Almost invariably a man. (Although unbuttoned overcoats have been known to serve as a substitute.
Not to mention that superhero capes are full length or longer, generally non-wrap-around cloaks. The page could use an image or two of mens' cloaks. 129.74.229.113 ( talk) 01:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
The Hercules part under fantasy needs to be removed. Myths are not "fantasy". Gune ( talk) 23:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
What is the difference between a Cloak and a Riding Hood? Is that just a different name given to the same thing, or is it like the difference between Capes and Cloaks? - 2600:1700:8830:8DF0:602E:DA94:43DF:9C99 ( talk) 00:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
In the introduction I found:
A climate cannot favor the wearing of anything: the fact that a climate is rainy in spring and summer, in autumn windy and rainy and chilly, and in winter windy, freezing, and snowy, cannot incline the people living in it to wear full-body garments, rather than separate garments for legs, torso, neck, and head. I do not know of any people who would make garments that could not be easily removed, so no climate is necessary to prompt them to conceive of easily removable garments. Moreover, sleeves do not constrain the wearer, or else nobody would have conceived of shirts and blouses, sweaters and jerseys, or jackets and coats.
Finally, historic means "of great significance in the annals of history"; the proper word is historical. That said, since there are still societies in which people wear cloaks, even "historical" would be misleading.
The passage should run:
Cloaks have been and are worn in countless societies. Wordwright ( talk) 15:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This article notes very little societies that wear cloaks. I wanted to learn about Celtic cloaks, but there’s nothing here about those. We should be more inclusive. 98.97.38.180 ( talk) 01:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
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Removed the Naruto line, as the specific example just didn't fit the listing of general usages listed. And a listing of every character in every book that uses a cloak is not something to be useful for a fashion page (and certainly wasn't for me when I browsed here hoping for the distinction between cloak and cape). It's not even a good (or clear) example of "cloak and dagger"--it seemed only to have that phrase and not its meaning--as opposed to the Harry Potter example which is clear, useful, and short. -- Squeeself 10:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I am not sure how this article got rated as such. If anyone is reading this, then we are in the remotest corner of the oddest subculture in the universe. If we were virtual, we could hide here for a million years. This article is an oubliette. Strangely cool.-- Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 15:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
The page though its illustrations gives the impression that cloaks are either primally or soley women's clothing. That is absurd. First Consider the phrase cloak and dagger. Who is wearing the cloak then? Almost invariably a man. (Although unbuttoned overcoats have been known to serve as a substitute.
Not to mention that superhero capes are full length or longer, generally non-wrap-around cloaks. The page could use an image or two of mens' cloaks. 129.74.229.113 ( talk) 01:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
The Hercules part under fantasy needs to be removed. Myths are not "fantasy". Gune ( talk) 23:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
What is the difference between a Cloak and a Riding Hood? Is that just a different name given to the same thing, or is it like the difference between Capes and Cloaks? - 2600:1700:8830:8DF0:602E:DA94:43DF:9C99 ( talk) 00:10, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
In the introduction I found:
A climate cannot favor the wearing of anything: the fact that a climate is rainy in spring and summer, in autumn windy and rainy and chilly, and in winter windy, freezing, and snowy, cannot incline the people living in it to wear full-body garments, rather than separate garments for legs, torso, neck, and head. I do not know of any people who would make garments that could not be easily removed, so no climate is necessary to prompt them to conceive of easily removable garments. Moreover, sleeves do not constrain the wearer, or else nobody would have conceived of shirts and blouses, sweaters and jerseys, or jackets and coats.
Finally, historic means "of great significance in the annals of history"; the proper word is historical. That said, since there are still societies in which people wear cloaks, even "historical" would be misleading.
The passage should run:
Cloaks have been and are worn in countless societies. Wordwright ( talk) 15:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
This article notes very little societies that wear cloaks. I wanted to learn about Celtic cloaks, but there’s nothing here about those. We should be more inclusive. 98.97.38.180 ( talk) 01:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)