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Can we have an explanation for the term "aerial gunnery deflection" which appears in this article?
Perhaps military types could help out.
Thanks.
G.
-- Gibberer 02:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
At the very least the references should be accurate and complete, I can live with a notes and reference section. Bzuk 12:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
Insert image width (defaults to 180x180px if empty) is the recommended size for infoboxes although most editors choose 200px as a convenient standard. See other biographies- Charles Lindbergh, Amelia Earhart, Baron Von Richtofen. The reason for this size is to ensure that the image does not "stretch" the infobox too much and that it not overwhelm the page. The WP:Aircraft group also recommends that no "hardcoding" of image sizes occurs. Bzuk 13:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
Guys, coupla' quick questions...
Cheers, Ian Rose 11:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Ian, you are right on both counts. Thanks for pointing the reference thing out. I never have been able to get the hang of the "reflist" format. For the time being I have changed mine to ordinary old <ref>s Grant | Talk 15:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
The citations published in the London Gazette make it clear that the DFC was for the encounter with 2 Me109s, whilst it was only the Bar which was for shooting down 5 Ju87s, I've re-worded accordingly, I did leave the original cites in because I wasn't absoutley sure what they were supposed to be backing up. I also chagned the style used for quotations to meet WP:QUOTE. David Underdown ( talk) 15:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This claim is footnoted, but no sources for the scores are given, ideally their should be a source which definitively lists Caldwell as such, or we're verging on Original research. David Underdown ( talk) 17:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Nick-D and I are planning to work on getting this article to FA standard. While I believe we have access to all the important sources, naturally we welcome additional input. If we can discuss any proposals here rather than just going into the article, it will help us avoid tripping over ourselves. At this stage, the division of labour Nick and I have discussed is myself primarily working on the intro, early life, and North Africa, and Nick on the Pacific, and later life.
For a start, I'm listing the existing bibliography and noting access to same, as well as adding a few more that I've used in the past on similar articles; also adding links to additional images. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 05:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Others that may prove useful are:
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or written out as:
The infobox portrait at the moment is an excellent shot, more thoughtful-looking than the usual Caldwell image, but for that reason I'm not sure it's the one for the infobox (though I think it should definitely appear somewhere in the article). Something a bit more representative of his public image might be more appropriate, such as the one currently in the South West Pacific section, but I'm interested in opinions before changing anything.
Here are links to a few other images that could end up in the article somewhere, and a new infobox image may be among them:
North Africa, 1942 -- useful shot in front of a Kittyhawk, presumably in 250SQN RAF
North Afrcia, 1942 -- decent portrait, presumably same shoot as above
Northern territory, 1943 -- very Hollywood, but a good portrait that conforms to pulic image without being too well-known
July 1943 -- classic shot, perhaps too ubiquitous for the infobox but might be worthwhile elsewhere
July 1943 -- good portrait, presumably from same shoot as above, that again conforms to the image without being too well-known
Northern Territory, 1843 -- interesting for the beard, at least!
Darwin, 1944 -- no beard or moustache at all, just to be different...!
Northern Territory, 1944 -- rare shot of him in the same frame as a decent view of his Spit
Morotai, 1945 -- another interesting portrait, with a pet parrot no less!
...and then there are the pair of him in the
Morotai Mutiny article, either of which might work here. Cheers,
Ian Rose (
talk)
05:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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Can we have an explanation for the term "aerial gunnery deflection" which appears in this article?
Perhaps military types could help out.
Thanks.
G.
-- Gibberer 02:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
At the very least the references should be accurate and complete, I can live with a notes and reference section. Bzuk 12:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
Insert image width (defaults to 180x180px if empty) is the recommended size for infoboxes although most editors choose 200px as a convenient standard. See other biographies- Charles Lindbergh, Amelia Earhart, Baron Von Richtofen. The reason for this size is to ensure that the image does not "stretch" the infobox too much and that it not overwhelm the page. The WP:Aircraft group also recommends that no "hardcoding" of image sizes occurs. Bzuk 13:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
Guys, coupla' quick questions...
Cheers, Ian Rose 11:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Ian, you are right on both counts. Thanks for pointing the reference thing out. I never have been able to get the hang of the "reflist" format. For the time being I have changed mine to ordinary old <ref>s Grant | Talk 15:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
The citations published in the London Gazette make it clear that the DFC was for the encounter with 2 Me109s, whilst it was only the Bar which was for shooting down 5 Ju87s, I've re-worded accordingly, I did leave the original cites in because I wasn't absoutley sure what they were supposed to be backing up. I also chagned the style used for quotations to meet WP:QUOTE. David Underdown ( talk) 15:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This claim is footnoted, but no sources for the scores are given, ideally their should be a source which definitively lists Caldwell as such, or we're verging on Original research. David Underdown ( talk) 17:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Nick-D and I are planning to work on getting this article to FA standard. While I believe we have access to all the important sources, naturally we welcome additional input. If we can discuss any proposals here rather than just going into the article, it will help us avoid tripping over ourselves. At this stage, the division of labour Nick and I have discussed is myself primarily working on the intro, early life, and North Africa, and Nick on the Pacific, and later life.
For a start, I'm listing the existing bibliography and noting access to same, as well as adding a few more that I've used in the past on similar articles; also adding links to additional images. Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 05:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Others that may prove useful are:
{{
cite journal}}
: Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)
or written out as:
The infobox portrait at the moment is an excellent shot, more thoughtful-looking than the usual Caldwell image, but for that reason I'm not sure it's the one for the infobox (though I think it should definitely appear somewhere in the article). Something a bit more representative of his public image might be more appropriate, such as the one currently in the South West Pacific section, but I'm interested in opinions before changing anything.
Here are links to a few other images that could end up in the article somewhere, and a new infobox image may be among them:
North Africa, 1942 -- useful shot in front of a Kittyhawk, presumably in 250SQN RAF
North Afrcia, 1942 -- decent portrait, presumably same shoot as above
Northern territory, 1943 -- very Hollywood, but a good portrait that conforms to pulic image without being too well-known
July 1943 -- classic shot, perhaps too ubiquitous for the infobox but might be worthwhile elsewhere
July 1943 -- good portrait, presumably from same shoot as above, that again conforms to the image without being too well-known
Northern Territory, 1843 -- interesting for the beard, at least!
Darwin, 1944 -- no beard or moustache at all, just to be different...!
Northern Territory, 1944 -- rare shot of him in the same frame as a decent view of his Spit
Morotai, 1945 -- another interesting portrait, with a pet parrot no less!
...and then there are the pair of him in the
Morotai Mutiny article, either of which might work here. Cheers,
Ian Rose (
talk)
05:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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