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Some women choose to have this done surgically as a body modification. 69.246.130.89 ( talk) 18:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
so is girls masturbating like a disease —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.163.170 ( talk) 16:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Days ago, I reverted CriticalAlways, who is with Education Program:Barnard College/Women and Health (Fall 2014). I reverted for obvious reasons (well, obvious to very experienced Wikipedia editors); those reverts are seen here and here. CriticalAlways's team apparently still has not gotten the point, judging by Cfb2130 ( talk · contribs)'s huge edit here; that edit has a variety of problems, problems that could have been resolved had these students posted to this talk page and proposed their edits, like they are supposed to do. The person directing these students (or the same student with a different username) to edit this article is not doing an appropriate job. Either that, or these students are not following the correct protocol noted at the WP:Student editing page. Flyer22 ( talk) 01:35, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
This needs to be sourced, attributed, and possibly quoted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:37, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Female circumcision and clitoridectomy in the United States are practices that have been widely conducted as methods to direct female sexual behavior within the act of "normalized" heterosexual vaginal intercourse. Often female sexual behavior is linked to the sexual organ of the clitoris. Thus, attention to understanding the structure and function of the clitoris has contributed to the overall socially constructed role that women play as sexual partners with their male counterparts.
Citoridectomies signify the medicalization of gender, as well as sex. Intersex individuals are made to seem like they have a "medical problem that needs fixing, but only a small number of intersex children have medical problems." [1]
Anxiety about ambiguity of genitalia exists based on the fear of confusing the clitoris with a penis, which disrupts the rigid gender binaries that have been set in place by various societal institutions. In reality, there exists a range of natural variations in size and shape of genitalia. [2]
Uncited, or cited to a 2002 primary source questionnaire:
“Clitoridectomy is a technique long eschewed owing to poor cosmetic outcomes and significant damage to sexual sensation and function. Indeed, more than a decade ago, a European Society for Pediatric Endocrinology survey called it “appalling” that “clitoridectomy is still reported by 13%” of 125 European centers caring for DSD [intersex] patients, and expressed the “hope that this practice will be banned completely in the near future.” [3]
Western feminists believe that the reasons put forth to do clitoridectomy or circumcision are not legitimate because “women are merely confronting what men find attractive”. Also, Clitoridectomy is done to deny women sexual pleasure and satisfaction.
A couple of VERY old sources (in fact, almost everything cited in the article is extremely old) give WP:UNDUE weight to the opinions of a few authors, at the same time that the actual medical content, based on WP:MEDRS sources is undeveloped. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I do not have access to the sources, and have not completed a copyvio check (I did remove a lot of overquoting). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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This type of mutilation apparently has a very long history (It was mentioned and apparently approved of by Mohammed, the founder of Islam.) and that aspect of the procedure should be discussed to give perspective. Some people think it was practiced in ancient Egypt, though I know of no sources which could be cited. Also, the practice is rather obviously a way for men in the societies in which it is practiced, to show women who's boss, and because of that the place of clitoridectomy in establishing social hierarchies, should be mentioned. Women often do the severing, but they do it because men want it done. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.120.170.250 ( talk) 21:26, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Bfpage, regarding this and this, history sections usually do not require WP:MEDRS-compliant sources...which is made explicitly clear in the WP:MEDDATE section of the WP:MEDRS guideline. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:11, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Though the content is interesting, including the subtitle "Redirecting female sexual behavior" under the main title "Medical Uses" implies that the medical use of a cloridectomy is to redirect female sexual behavior. The content contained under this subheading does not mention or support the idea that the surgery will redirect sexual behavior. Best Regards,
This phrase in the article:
"WHO estimates that clitordectomies have been performed on 200 million girls and women that are currently alive."
Is linked to this source:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/
However, the figure of 200 million given by the source seems to refer to all forms of FGM, not only clitoridectomy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.83.179.39 ( talk) 15:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Bozzio, I do not fully understand your deletion of text with this edit. The aesthetic factor is an aspect of clitoridectomy, and the "Redirecting female sexual behavior" section was sourced to "Female Circumcision and Clitoridectomy in the United States," which is clearly about clitoridectomy. Both sections needed work, but I don't agree with the full deletion. The content should be fixed up and moved to the "Society and culture" section. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:41, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I restored most of it, tweaked it and moved it. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 21:20, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Other tweaks followed. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 21:29, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Are there any proofs of clitoridectomy being practised for ppl with MRKH? -- HalfOfDwarf ( talk) 15:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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Some women choose to have this done surgically as a body modification. 69.246.130.89 ( talk) 18:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
so is girls masturbating like a disease —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.163.170 ( talk) 16:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Days ago, I reverted CriticalAlways, who is with Education Program:Barnard College/Women and Health (Fall 2014). I reverted for obvious reasons (well, obvious to very experienced Wikipedia editors); those reverts are seen here and here. CriticalAlways's team apparently still has not gotten the point, judging by Cfb2130 ( talk · contribs)'s huge edit here; that edit has a variety of problems, problems that could have been resolved had these students posted to this talk page and proposed their edits, like they are supposed to do. The person directing these students (or the same student with a different username) to edit this article is not doing an appropriate job. Either that, or these students are not following the correct protocol noted at the WP:Student editing page. Flyer22 ( talk) 01:35, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
This needs to be sourced, attributed, and possibly quoted. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:37, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Female circumcision and clitoridectomy in the United States are practices that have been widely conducted as methods to direct female sexual behavior within the act of "normalized" heterosexual vaginal intercourse. Often female sexual behavior is linked to the sexual organ of the clitoris. Thus, attention to understanding the structure and function of the clitoris has contributed to the overall socially constructed role that women play as sexual partners with their male counterparts.
Citoridectomies signify the medicalization of gender, as well as sex. Intersex individuals are made to seem like they have a "medical problem that needs fixing, but only a small number of intersex children have medical problems." [1]
Anxiety about ambiguity of genitalia exists based on the fear of confusing the clitoris with a penis, which disrupts the rigid gender binaries that have been set in place by various societal institutions. In reality, there exists a range of natural variations in size and shape of genitalia. [2]
Uncited, or cited to a 2002 primary source questionnaire:
“Clitoridectomy is a technique long eschewed owing to poor cosmetic outcomes and significant damage to sexual sensation and function. Indeed, more than a decade ago, a European Society for Pediatric Endocrinology survey called it “appalling” that “clitoridectomy is still reported by 13%” of 125 European centers caring for DSD [intersex] patients, and expressed the “hope that this practice will be banned completely in the near future.” [3]
Western feminists believe that the reasons put forth to do clitoridectomy or circumcision are not legitimate because “women are merely confronting what men find attractive”. Also, Clitoridectomy is done to deny women sexual pleasure and satisfaction.
A couple of VERY old sources (in fact, almost everything cited in the article is extremely old) give WP:UNDUE weight to the opinions of a few authors, at the same time that the actual medical content, based on WP:MEDRS sources is undeveloped. SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
I do not have access to the sources, and have not completed a copyvio check (I did remove a lot of overquoting). SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 16:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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This type of mutilation apparently has a very long history (It was mentioned and apparently approved of by Mohammed, the founder of Islam.) and that aspect of the procedure should be discussed to give perspective. Some people think it was practiced in ancient Egypt, though I know of no sources which could be cited. Also, the practice is rather obviously a way for men in the societies in which it is practiced, to show women who's boss, and because of that the place of clitoridectomy in establishing social hierarchies, should be mentioned. Women often do the severing, but they do it because men want it done. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.120.170.250 ( talk) 21:26, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Bfpage, regarding this and this, history sections usually do not require WP:MEDRS-compliant sources...which is made explicitly clear in the WP:MEDDATE section of the WP:MEDRS guideline. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 00:11, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Though the content is interesting, including the subtitle "Redirecting female sexual behavior" under the main title "Medical Uses" implies that the medical use of a cloridectomy is to redirect female sexual behavior. The content contained under this subheading does not mention or support the idea that the surgery will redirect sexual behavior. Best Regards,
This phrase in the article:
"WHO estimates that clitordectomies have been performed on 200 million girls and women that are currently alive."
Is linked to this source:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/
However, the figure of 200 million given by the source seems to refer to all forms of FGM, not only clitoridectomy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.83.179.39 ( talk) 15:54, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Bozzio, I do not fully understand your deletion of text with this edit. The aesthetic factor is an aspect of clitoridectomy, and the "Redirecting female sexual behavior" section was sourced to "Female Circumcision and Clitoridectomy in the United States," which is clearly about clitoridectomy. Both sections needed work, but I don't agree with the full deletion. The content should be fixed up and moved to the "Society and culture" section. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 07:41, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I restored most of it, tweaked it and moved it. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 21:20, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Other tweaks followed. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 21:29, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
Are there any proofs of clitoridectomy being practised for ppl with MRKH? -- HalfOfDwarf ( talk) 15:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)