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All major sciences has history. Where is the history of Cliodynamics? Ohanian ( talk) 00:40, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Ibn Khaldun,
population dynamics,
ethnogenesis,
cliometrics,
social simulation,
agent-based model,
scale-free network,
indirect reciprocity,
organizational learning,
cellular automata,
small world network,
social networks,
Multi-Agent System,
voter model,
Homo ergaster,
prisoner's dilemma,
Simulated Society
J. D. Redding
01:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Computational historical dynamics, Geopolitics, Collective Solidarity, Metaethnic Frontier Theory, Ethnokinetics, Demographic Structural Theory, Secular Cycles in Population Numbers, Geopolitical models, immigration autocatalytic model.
J. D. Redding
01:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
J. D. Redding 01:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
The article is not well referenced and seems to be promoting the Cliodynamics methodology.
Cliodynamics is a new and not well known/established approach to historical research. Yet judging by this article it is already well established and beyond dispute. Some problems I noticed:
1. The claim that Cliodynamics can be traced to the work of Ibn Khaldun. Sounds quite controversial that a 21th century methodology was used by a 14th century scholar. And yet there are no sources to this claim.
2. Section "Mathematical modeling of historical dynamics" has no references and seems to be somewhat promotional when compared with standard introductory sections.
3. Section "Achievements". The fact that someone has created a theory does not make it an achievement. A well known theory states that decline in global number of pirates causes global warming, but most people would probably not consider it an achievement. References are needed for an achievement claim, and not to the books/papers that lay down the theories themselves. Even with references, it seems an "achievements" sections are not common in Wikipedia pages describing a theory or methodological approach.
Yunis ( talk) 14:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to add my vote to the view that this article is promoting the Cliodynamics methodology and the fact that creating an unverified theory is not an "achievement".
152.160.76.249 ( talk) 22:05, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Draypresct
Hi, changed that "achivement" word (out of quick gut feeling, please revise and improve) -- Sigmundur ( talk) 08:50, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
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All major sciences has history. Where is the history of Cliodynamics? Ohanian ( talk) 00:40, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Ibn Khaldun,
population dynamics,
ethnogenesis,
cliometrics,
social simulation,
agent-based model,
scale-free network,
indirect reciprocity,
organizational learning,
cellular automata,
small world network,
social networks,
Multi-Agent System,
voter model,
Homo ergaster,
prisoner's dilemma,
Simulated Society
J. D. Redding
01:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Computational historical dynamics, Geopolitics, Collective Solidarity, Metaethnic Frontier Theory, Ethnokinetics, Demographic Structural Theory, Secular Cycles in Population Numbers, Geopolitical models, immigration autocatalytic model.
J. D. Redding
01:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
J. D. Redding 01:49, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
The article is not well referenced and seems to be promoting the Cliodynamics methodology.
Cliodynamics is a new and not well known/established approach to historical research. Yet judging by this article it is already well established and beyond dispute. Some problems I noticed:
1. The claim that Cliodynamics can be traced to the work of Ibn Khaldun. Sounds quite controversial that a 21th century methodology was used by a 14th century scholar. And yet there are no sources to this claim.
2. Section "Mathematical modeling of historical dynamics" has no references and seems to be somewhat promotional when compared with standard introductory sections.
3. Section "Achievements". The fact that someone has created a theory does not make it an achievement. A well known theory states that decline in global number of pirates causes global warming, but most people would probably not consider it an achievement. References are needed for an achievement claim, and not to the books/papers that lay down the theories themselves. Even with references, it seems an "achievements" sections are not common in Wikipedia pages describing a theory or methodological approach.
Yunis ( talk) 14:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to add my vote to the view that this article is promoting the Cliodynamics methodology and the fact that creating an unverified theory is not an "achievement".
152.160.76.249 ( talk) 22:05, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Draypresct
Hi, changed that "achivement" word (out of quick gut feeling, please revise and improve) -- Sigmundur ( talk) 08:50, 3 May 2017 (UTC)