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As far as I can tell, if Galton had such an impact on meteorology such as inventing the weather map or the term anticyclone, surely it would be on his biographical page or in some meteorology text book. Redfield and Loomis may be the first ones to construct weather maps, from the references I linked to from the Surface Analysis - Weather page. Also, inserted the word past in there more often to help emphasize the fact that climatology is the study of past weather events. Added Helmut Landsberg biography into wikipedia, due to his enormous importance to the field of climatology. Thegreatdr 16:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I ask the original author to come forward in this talk and state which reference format they would wish for this page the ref format or direct links from the body of the text. Someone just switched reference style away from what the Tropical Cyclone pages are moving towards, which I thought was not supposed to be done unless they were the author. Thegreatdr 01:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The format of this page is now more in line with other meteorology articles, including a reference section and a see also section. Thegreatdr 15:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Fame is somewhat subjective. But I don't see Lindzen as being up there with the others William M. Connolley 16:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Per a response to a question I posed within the climate and main meteorology project, I moved a section previously within that page to this one. Thegreatdr 16:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you all think is still needed to bring this article up to GA? Should climate models be mentioned in this article, if it already lies in climate? Thegreatdr ( talk) 16:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
This is new to me, but I am wondering for purposes of flow if the comparison to meteorology section should be moved to later in the article? It seems this should come later, not up front. StenSmith ( talk) 18:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
After the following text:
These models predict an upward trend in the surface temperature record, as well as a more rapid increase in temperature at higher altitudes.
I propose that we add to that a statement explaining that we haven't had statistically significant warming since the mid 90s (essentially the Phil Jones statement that there hasn't been warming since 1995). I'm looking for an unobjectionable formula to relate that. To get the ball rolling how about this, "In the face of continued increases in carbon dioxide, global temperatures have not had any statistically significant warming since 1995, something that has not been predicted by the models." TMLutas ( talk) 18:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Did a nuanced edit reflecting that there are some outlier models that aren't invalidated and that we're only halfway through a 30 year period of no warming but recognizing that there's real divergence and controversy has ensued. TMLutas ( talk) 14:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.
Chopped a recently added section which consisted of one disgruntled scientist's quote from his personal webpage. Vsmith ( talk) 14:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
This leading sentence in the History section is out of place:
And it contains wp:weasel words: "may have been."
This article is about climatology "the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time;" not climate change, the movement of average over time.
The second paragraph is more suitable:
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I checked a few of the links referenced in this article and only two out of the nine I checked connected to valid links. The links should be updated, along with the article's information.- Js1006 ( talk) 01:01, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I just created a related article, hydroclimatology, that would benefit from more knowledgeable editors having a go. Especially with the Wiki-technical aspects of it. Cheers Rap Chart Mike ( talk) 18:15, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to condense the section about indices quite a bit. In most RSs about climatology, this is only a minor part of the discussion. See for instance the index of the following book: Climatology, or the list of topics for this book: Climatology: An atmospheric Science. @ Vsmith: reverted my edit in the lede as unhelpful: was this because you do think it should remain a major part of the article? Or were there other parts of the edit you found unhelpful (removal of jargony analog techniques f.i.) Femke Nijsse ( talk) 14:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Further update: I've moved most of the information about modes of variability to our new article climate variability to balance this article out. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 19:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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As far as I can tell, if Galton had such an impact on meteorology such as inventing the weather map or the term anticyclone, surely it would be on his biographical page or in some meteorology text book. Redfield and Loomis may be the first ones to construct weather maps, from the references I linked to from the Surface Analysis - Weather page. Also, inserted the word past in there more often to help emphasize the fact that climatology is the study of past weather events. Added Helmut Landsberg biography into wikipedia, due to his enormous importance to the field of climatology. Thegreatdr 16:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I ask the original author to come forward in this talk and state which reference format they would wish for this page the ref format or direct links from the body of the text. Someone just switched reference style away from what the Tropical Cyclone pages are moving towards, which I thought was not supposed to be done unless they were the author. Thegreatdr 01:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The format of this page is now more in line with other meteorology articles, including a reference section and a see also section. Thegreatdr 15:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Fame is somewhat subjective. But I don't see Lindzen as being up there with the others William M. Connolley 16:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Per a response to a question I posed within the climate and main meteorology project, I moved a section previously within that page to this one. Thegreatdr 16:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you all think is still needed to bring this article up to GA? Should climate models be mentioned in this article, if it already lies in climate? Thegreatdr ( talk) 16:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
This is new to me, but I am wondering for purposes of flow if the comparison to meteorology section should be moved to later in the article? It seems this should come later, not up front. StenSmith ( talk) 18:36, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
After the following text:
These models predict an upward trend in the surface temperature record, as well as a more rapid increase in temperature at higher altitudes.
I propose that we add to that a statement explaining that we haven't had statistically significant warming since the mid 90s (essentially the Phil Jones statement that there hasn't been warming since 1995). I'm looking for an unobjectionable formula to relate that. To get the ball rolling how about this, "In the face of continued increases in carbon dioxide, global temperatures have not had any statistically significant warming since 1995, something that has not been predicted by the models." TMLutas ( talk) 18:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Did a nuanced edit reflecting that there are some outlier models that aren't invalidated and that we're only halfway through a 30 year period of no warming but recognizing that there's real divergence and controversy has ensued. TMLutas ( talk) 14:45, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.
Chopped a recently added section which consisted of one disgruntled scientist's quote from his personal webpage. Vsmith ( talk) 14:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
This leading sentence in the History section is out of place:
And it contains wp:weasel words: "may have been."
This article is about climatology "the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time;" not climate change, the movement of average over time.
The second paragraph is more suitable:
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I checked a few of the links referenced in this article and only two out of the nine I checked connected to valid links. The links should be updated, along with the article's information.- Js1006 ( talk) 01:01, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I just created a related article, hydroclimatology, that would benefit from more knowledgeable editors having a go. Especially with the Wiki-technical aspects of it. Cheers Rap Chart Mike ( talk) 18:15, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
I'd like to condense the section about indices quite a bit. In most RSs about climatology, this is only a minor part of the discussion. See for instance the index of the following book: Climatology, or the list of topics for this book: Climatology: An atmospheric Science. @ Vsmith: reverted my edit in the lede as unhelpful: was this because you do think it should remain a major part of the article? Or were there other parts of the edit you found unhelpful (removal of jargony analog techniques f.i.) Femke Nijsse ( talk) 14:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Further update: I've moved most of the information about modes of variability to our new article climate variability to balance this article out. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 19:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)