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Splitting proposal

First of all, this page is of deplorable quality. It is slightly biased (Scafetta and Curry, while respected researchers, should not be used as primary sources), outdated and amalgamated. I'm not sure whether climate oscillation is an article we want to have. It does not seem to be something people speak of as a thing an sich. (Sidenote: Climate pattern is almost the same article, but just smaller..).

I suspect climate oscillation might be an outdated term for climate variability. Variability includes variations that don't have a well-defined cycle. Since phenomena are somewhere on a spectrum (no pun intended) from being very periodic to not being periodic at all, it makes more sense to group them all under the climate variability cloak.

Proposal A)

I propose that all sections but Climate oscillation#Examples be split into a separate page called Climate variability (now redirect climate change). Most of the current page seems not about climate oscillation but about climate variability and climate change. I'm willing to spend considerable effort on an article about climate variability, but I'd like to brainstorm a bit about what we would want in such an article. If we go down this road, I'll copy all these section info to a draft first, because it is not fit for publishing into an article that would attract more traffic.

The remaining bit of the article should be converted to a list I think.

Proposal B)

We delete all sections but Climate oscillation#Examples. The information seems either already contained in other articles, such as historical climatology, or is of dubious quality (cosmic ray hypothesis presented as near-fact). I'll start an article about climate variability from scratch. If we go down this road, I'll first expand the section on examples with one or two lines per oscillation to not leave a stub. This can later be formed into a list if we fancy :).


I am in favour of proposal B, but because climate is a hot topic, I wanted to have input first.

Both proposals would logically also include renaming the climate oscillation template to climate variability. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Support B – I think starting from afresh will lead to better article on climate variability. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply

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Splitting proposal

First of all, this page is of deplorable quality. It is slightly biased (Scafetta and Curry, while respected researchers, should not be used as primary sources), outdated and amalgamated. I'm not sure whether climate oscillation is an article we want to have. It does not seem to be something people speak of as a thing an sich. (Sidenote: Climate pattern is almost the same article, but just smaller..).

I suspect climate oscillation might be an outdated term for climate variability. Variability includes variations that don't have a well-defined cycle. Since phenomena are somewhere on a spectrum (no pun intended) from being very periodic to not being periodic at all, it makes more sense to group them all under the climate variability cloak.

Proposal A)

I propose that all sections but Climate oscillation#Examples be split into a separate page called Climate variability (now redirect climate change). Most of the current page seems not about climate oscillation but about climate variability and climate change. I'm willing to spend considerable effort on an article about climate variability, but I'd like to brainstorm a bit about what we would want in such an article. If we go down this road, I'll copy all these section info to a draft first, because it is not fit for publishing into an article that would attract more traffic.

The remaining bit of the article should be converted to a list I think.

Proposal B)

We delete all sections but Climate oscillation#Examples. The information seems either already contained in other articles, such as historical climatology, or is of dubious quality (cosmic ray hypothesis presented as near-fact). I'll start an article about climate variability from scratch. If we go down this road, I'll first expand the section on examples with one or two lines per oscillation to not leave a stub. This can later be formed into a list if we fancy :).


I am in favour of proposal B, but because climate is a hot topic, I wanted to have input first.

Both proposals would logically also include renaming the climate oscillation template to climate variability. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Support B – I think starting from afresh will lead to better article on climate variability. Femke Nijsse ( talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply


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