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As long as no one can provide references, what's the difference between Classical and Phenomenological thermodynamics, I sincerely believe them to be synonyms. -- Pjacobi 14:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Please be patient, it is not easy the subtle difference between each of these subjects. Yet, there are full textbooks on each. Hence, this is a work in progress; each topic has its own subtle agenda. Thanks: -- Sadi Carnot 15:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
New user 128.175.75.147 dumped all this stuff into the main page as is:
(dU/dt) = sum(Ni Hi) + Q + Ws - P(dV/dt) Where U represents the internal energy of a system, Ni represents the mole/mass of a particular input/output to the system, Hi represents the total enthalpy of the corresponding inlet/outlet of stream i, Q represents the total heat flux into/out of the system, Ws represents the shaft work performed on/by the system, P is the pressure of the system, V is the specific volume of the system, and t represents time. The equation above can be applied to either open or closed systems: since many open systems are generally at steady state (i.e. not time dependent) the time derivative terms are cancelled, otherwise with a closed system the mass flux into/out of the system is generally zero (because it is isolated from the environment). The Second Law of Thermodynamics comes about from the development of the relationship known as entropy. Entropy can be crudely represented as a type of chaos/disorder introduced into a system, and typically throughout the universe entropy will always be increasing. The Second Law essentially refers to the generation of entropy always being greater than (or equal to) zero. This relationship physically comes about in the following equation (neglecting kinetic and potential energy): (dS/dt) = sum(Ni Si) - Q/T + Sgen Where t, Q, Ni remain the same as before, T represents temperature, S is the entropy of the system (for closed systems), Si is the total entropy of the inlet/outlet represented by i, and Sgen is the entropy generation term which is greater than or equal to zero. In the classroom or for best estimates of processes at their maximum ideality, the Sgen term is assumed as zero (but this is usually always greater than zero, because there hardly exists a truly ideal process in current technology).
P = RT/(V - b) - a/(V^2) Instead of the simple P = RT/V, there are parameters a and b to consider. The parameter a generally represents the interaction between particles and b represents the excluded volume of particles, and it is these type of more complicated equations of state which begin to take into account the real properties of various fluids (Note: with the ideal gas law, only the gas phase is taken into account, but with the more complex equations the liquid phase is able to be described as well). So returning to the description of fugacity, the difference between real Gibbs energy and ideal gas Gibbs energy are used in its definition, and to obtain a real Gibbs energy either a more complex equation of state is required or the application of real experimental data. So if one was working in an ideal gas state (or using ideal gas law as their real Gibbs expression) the terms in the exponential of the fugacity expression would go to zero, and fugactiy would end up just equaling the pressure of the system.
I'll move it here for the time being; until it gets cleaned and move into sepearte articles, e.g. Gibbs free energy discussion goes in chemical thermodynamics. Later: -- Sadi Carnot 15:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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As long as no one can provide references, what's the difference between Classical and Phenomenological thermodynamics, I sincerely believe them to be synonyms. -- Pjacobi 14:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Please be patient, it is not easy the subtle difference between each of these subjects. Yet, there are full textbooks on each. Hence, this is a work in progress; each topic has its own subtle agenda. Thanks: -- Sadi Carnot 15:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
New user 128.175.75.147 dumped all this stuff into the main page as is:
(dU/dt) = sum(Ni Hi) + Q + Ws - P(dV/dt) Where U represents the internal energy of a system, Ni represents the mole/mass of a particular input/output to the system, Hi represents the total enthalpy of the corresponding inlet/outlet of stream i, Q represents the total heat flux into/out of the system, Ws represents the shaft work performed on/by the system, P is the pressure of the system, V is the specific volume of the system, and t represents time. The equation above can be applied to either open or closed systems: since many open systems are generally at steady state (i.e. not time dependent) the time derivative terms are cancelled, otherwise with a closed system the mass flux into/out of the system is generally zero (because it is isolated from the environment). The Second Law of Thermodynamics comes about from the development of the relationship known as entropy. Entropy can be crudely represented as a type of chaos/disorder introduced into a system, and typically throughout the universe entropy will always be increasing. The Second Law essentially refers to the generation of entropy always being greater than (or equal to) zero. This relationship physically comes about in the following equation (neglecting kinetic and potential energy): (dS/dt) = sum(Ni Si) - Q/T + Sgen Where t, Q, Ni remain the same as before, T represents temperature, S is the entropy of the system (for closed systems), Si is the total entropy of the inlet/outlet represented by i, and Sgen is the entropy generation term which is greater than or equal to zero. In the classroom or for best estimates of processes at their maximum ideality, the Sgen term is assumed as zero (but this is usually always greater than zero, because there hardly exists a truly ideal process in current technology).
P = RT/(V - b) - a/(V^2) Instead of the simple P = RT/V, there are parameters a and b to consider. The parameter a generally represents the interaction between particles and b represents the excluded volume of particles, and it is these type of more complicated equations of state which begin to take into account the real properties of various fluids (Note: with the ideal gas law, only the gas phase is taken into account, but with the more complex equations the liquid phase is able to be described as well). So returning to the description of fugacity, the difference between real Gibbs energy and ideal gas Gibbs energy are used in its definition, and to obtain a real Gibbs energy either a more complex equation of state is required or the application of real experimental data. So if one was working in an ideal gas state (or using ideal gas law as their real Gibbs expression) the terms in the exponential of the fugacity expression would go to zero, and fugactiy would end up just equaling the pressure of the system.
I'll move it here for the time being; until it gets cleaned and move into sepearte articles, e.g. Gibbs free energy discussion goes in chemical thermodynamics. Later: -- Sadi Carnot 15:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)