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Well, it is long. Perhaps it should be divided? Whether into 3 (Ardencaple, Lewis, Ullapool/Loch Broom), or 4 (the previous 3 plus the modern clan) I don't know. Anyway, that's not directly relevant to the review. The criteria and my thoughts on each are:
I'll leave detailed comments on the first and second points after trying my hand at copyediting. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
One sentence that needs reworked is this (from the section "Alliance with clan Gregor"): The bond stated that the two chiefs "understanding ourselfs and our name to be M'Calppins of auld and to be our just and trew surname". It seems to be missing whatever conclusion they drew from their understanding. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I've finished doing a quick copyedit. No doubt it's not up to Tony's featured standards, but it all seems reasonable to be with the caveat above, which is trivial in an article of this length. The red links all seem reasonable - having none is a bad sign, just as having dozens is bad - perhaps with the exception of ad hoc derbhfine, which seems rather obscure. I'm surprised that derbhfine is a red link, presumably we're missing a redirect to somewhere or other. It would be a good idea if you reread the article to make sure that I haven't changed anything that shouldn't have been changed. If you have a gloss on Donald Cam's byname somewhere, use that. I took the meaning of Cam from MacLennan's dictionary (and analogy with the earlier Cáem/Cáech). I must say I like this a lot, it's always nice to see what we don't know being given its place. This is a very good good article. Great work! Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I split the MacAulays of Lewis & MacAulays of Ullapool and Loch Broom into their own articles. Hopefully this one will be a bit easier for someone to read through now that it's been slimmed down a bit.-- Celtus 09:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I started a copyedit on this...see hidden comments in the text labeled COPYEDITOR NOTE for questions that I couldn't resolve. Galena11 ( talk) 04:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I have a contradictory source info for the MacGregor - MacAulay Manrent. My source gives: 1591 entered into between MacGregor of Glenstrae and MacAulay of Ardincaple, of date 27th May 1591, the latter acknowledges his being a cadet of the former, and agrees to pay him the "calp," that is, a tribute of cattle given in acknowledgment of superiority. [1]. This seems miles apart from the terms of the manrent in the article hereto stating: The following May saw the Bond of Manrent between Clan MacAulay and Clan Gregor, in which both chiefs swore an alliance to assist each other, their "kin and friends in all their honest actions against whatsoever person or persons the Kings Majesty being only excepted". [2]. Please advise, Czar Brodie ( talk) 17:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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Well, it is long. Perhaps it should be divided? Whether into 3 (Ardencaple, Lewis, Ullapool/Loch Broom), or 4 (the previous 3 plus the modern clan) I don't know. Anyway, that's not directly relevant to the review. The criteria and my thoughts on each are:
I'll leave detailed comments on the first and second points after trying my hand at copyediting. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
One sentence that needs reworked is this (from the section "Alliance with clan Gregor"): The bond stated that the two chiefs "understanding ourselfs and our name to be M'Calppins of auld and to be our just and trew surname". It seems to be missing whatever conclusion they drew from their understanding. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:53, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I've finished doing a quick copyedit. No doubt it's not up to Tony's featured standards, but it all seems reasonable to be with the caveat above, which is trivial in an article of this length. The red links all seem reasonable - having none is a bad sign, just as having dozens is bad - perhaps with the exception of ad hoc derbhfine, which seems rather obscure. I'm surprised that derbhfine is a red link, presumably we're missing a redirect to somewhere or other. It would be a good idea if you reread the article to make sure that I haven't changed anything that shouldn't have been changed. If you have a gloss on Donald Cam's byname somewhere, use that. I took the meaning of Cam from MacLennan's dictionary (and analogy with the earlier Cáem/Cáech). I must say I like this a lot, it's always nice to see what we don't know being given its place. This is a very good good article. Great work! Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I split the MacAulays of Lewis & MacAulays of Ullapool and Loch Broom into their own articles. Hopefully this one will be a bit easier for someone to read through now that it's been slimmed down a bit.-- Celtus 09:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I started a copyedit on this...see hidden comments in the text labeled COPYEDITOR NOTE for questions that I couldn't resolve. Galena11 ( talk) 04:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I have a contradictory source info for the MacGregor - MacAulay Manrent. My source gives: 1591 entered into between MacGregor of Glenstrae and MacAulay of Ardincaple, of date 27th May 1591, the latter acknowledges his being a cadet of the former, and agrees to pay him the "calp," that is, a tribute of cattle given in acknowledgment of superiority. [1]. This seems miles apart from the terms of the manrent in the article hereto stating: The following May saw the Bond of Manrent between Clan MacAulay and Clan Gregor, in which both chiefs swore an alliance to assist each other, their "kin and friends in all their honest actions against whatsoever person or persons the Kings Majesty being only excepted". [2]. Please advise, Czar Brodie ( talk) 17:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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