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I can't get this thing to go where it should (under the Clan name). Both branch clan pages also have this trouble. Canaen 01:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I put the Clan Cameron website in the sidebar, had a bit of difficulty with the formatting, but it seems to be all right now. J.Fries 09:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
If you had bothered to check out the Clan Cameron links you might have discovered that the fate of Donald Cameron, the ninteenth chief of Clan Cameron, is very far from being 'unknown'. After Culloden he found refuge in France, where he was appointed colonel of a regiment in Flanders. He died in the town of Bourge in October 1748. Rcpaterson 00:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
You will note at the bottom of the Arms the motto, "Mo kigh's mo dhubhaich" (spelling?), "For king and country". I thought that was the clan motto. RandallC 12:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
text is very similar to that found at www.clan-cameron.org - history. yours ever, Czar Brodie ( talk) 01:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be at least one editor who states that David Cameron, British Prime Minister is a "member" of Clan Cameron. Although he does not have to be descended from the chief to be a member of the clan, there should be some proper reference to show that he is a member of the Clan Association. mjgm84 ( talk) 08:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
It's really become a disturbing pattern here on Wikipedia, and it seems mostly caused by one poster, Quintus garbage. The Camerons are Picts, as were the Chattan, the Davidsons, the MacPhersons and many others. They split the Clan Chattan because of the rift that was appearing between the MacPherson's and the Mackintosh's. The Norman origin claim is used by subordinate septs or cadets to try to gain a hold on the chieftainship. It's pathetic, it's sickening and I'm really getting tired of seeing here with nearly every Highland Clan. Refer to Mr. Skene if you want the real truth to the origins of the Highland and not the B.S. being posted here on wikipedia, once again, overwhelmingly by ONE poster ( Personal attack removed). Shame on wikipedia and those in some position of authority for allowing this to happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.32.225 ( talk) 00:04, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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The "IP" editor appears to have a problem accepting that the picture in question is of the Scottish Romanticism type. The image caption only currently links to the romanticism page so maybe it could be changed to Scottish Romanticism. The artist who painted the picture is R. R. McIan who is well known for his work in the typical 19th century Scottish Romanticism style. The IP editor seems to be questioning why these paintings of Scottish Highlanders are thought of as being romanticism and the answer is they were part of the art and culture movement of the time, not just in Scotland but across Europe. The various Wikipedia articles appear to have consistency and consensus of these facts. So I don't see how there is any disputing it. QuintusPetillius ( talk) 21:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I note that the "clan branches" list identifies Erracht as the "senior cadets" of the Clan. Most genealogies and historical sources I am aware of (e.g.Mackenzie 1884, p381 [1]) note that the Camerons of Callart/Lundavra were the first to branch from the main line and therefore had seniority in the traditional sense. Perhaps "senior" here reflects some sense of (modern) notability or recognition by the Chief, but if so it would be helpful if a source for this assertion could be cited. 122.58.94.42 ( talk) 11:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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I can't get this thing to go where it should (under the Clan name). Both branch clan pages also have this trouble. Canaen 01:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I put the Clan Cameron website in the sidebar, had a bit of difficulty with the formatting, but it seems to be all right now. J.Fries 09:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
If you had bothered to check out the Clan Cameron links you might have discovered that the fate of Donald Cameron, the ninteenth chief of Clan Cameron, is very far from being 'unknown'. After Culloden he found refuge in France, where he was appointed colonel of a regiment in Flanders. He died in the town of Bourge in October 1748. Rcpaterson 00:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
You will note at the bottom of the Arms the motto, "Mo kigh's mo dhubhaich" (spelling?), "For king and country". I thought that was the clan motto. RandallC 12:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
text is very similar to that found at www.clan-cameron.org - history. yours ever, Czar Brodie ( talk) 01:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be at least one editor who states that David Cameron, British Prime Minister is a "member" of Clan Cameron. Although he does not have to be descended from the chief to be a member of the clan, there should be some proper reference to show that he is a member of the Clan Association. mjgm84 ( talk) 08:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
It's really become a disturbing pattern here on Wikipedia, and it seems mostly caused by one poster, Quintus garbage. The Camerons are Picts, as were the Chattan, the Davidsons, the MacPhersons and many others. They split the Clan Chattan because of the rift that was appearing between the MacPherson's and the Mackintosh's. The Norman origin claim is used by subordinate septs or cadets to try to gain a hold on the chieftainship. It's pathetic, it's sickening and I'm really getting tired of seeing here with nearly every Highland Clan. Refer to Mr. Skene if you want the real truth to the origins of the Highland and not the B.S. being posted here on wikipedia, once again, overwhelmingly by ONE poster ( Personal attack removed). Shame on wikipedia and those in some position of authority for allowing this to happen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.32.225 ( talk) 00:04, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
The IP has been given a second break from editing Wikipedia. He would be welcome to write rationally and constructively upon his return; but if he instead continues as before, please just post an alert at " WP:AN/I". -- Hoary ( talk) 00:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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The "IP" editor appears to have a problem accepting that the picture in question is of the Scottish Romanticism type. The image caption only currently links to the romanticism page so maybe it could be changed to Scottish Romanticism. The artist who painted the picture is R. R. McIan who is well known for his work in the typical 19th century Scottish Romanticism style. The IP editor seems to be questioning why these paintings of Scottish Highlanders are thought of as being romanticism and the answer is they were part of the art and culture movement of the time, not just in Scotland but across Europe. The various Wikipedia articles appear to have consistency and consensus of these facts. So I don't see how there is any disputing it. QuintusPetillius ( talk) 21:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I note that the "clan branches" list identifies Erracht as the "senior cadets" of the Clan. Most genealogies and historical sources I am aware of (e.g.Mackenzie 1884, p381 [1]) note that the Camerons of Callart/Lundavra were the first to branch from the main line and therefore had seniority in the traditional sense. Perhaps "senior" here reflects some sense of (modern) notability or recognition by the Chief, but if so it would be helpful if a source for this assertion could be cited. 122.58.94.42 ( talk) 11:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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