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It is highly questionable that the photograph of the Avion 3 in this article actually shows the machine "in flight," as the caption states. I don't think camera shutter speeds or photographic emulsion were good enough at the time to completely "stop" the motion of the propellers. If the Avion flew, it would have remained very close to the ground, yet no terrain is visible in the image. If there is evidence this photo shows the machine "in flight," I would like very much to see it. If there is no objection, this caption should be changed to remove the words "in flight". 4.227.249.79 16:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC) DonFB
The previous commenter is 100% right. Actually, the image was taken in the workshop of Satory. The french magazine "Science et Vie" published the original of this image in 1990 (#877, October 1990, page 94). I was not able to find the image on the web though. The original image shows the Avion III within the building. The wings seem covered with a white cloth or paper, probably in order to better delineate (or see) the contour from the background (I do not think it is a deliberate attempt to create a fake). (Just for the precision, I personally have no doubt that the machine flew, but this photo is not a proof.)
The birth date is April 2, 1841 and not February 4! In French, 2/4/1841 means 2 avril 1841, we indicate first the day and after the month of the date! I am not a number 14:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
As drafted, the article gives the impression that Ader and the commission were frauds trying to steal the Wrights' success. Is that correct? It certainly does not sound very encyclopedic. 193.132.242.1 11:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I copied and condensed material from Clément Ader#Development of aircraft to Airplane#Early powered flights with this edit. User:HopsonRoad 02:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Mrs.Laurent, The Centre Nationale des Resources Textuelle e Lexicales shows the probable origin of "avion" as "Dér. du lat. avis « oiseau »; suff. -on*." Cheers, HopsonRoad ( talk) 16:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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It is highly questionable that the photograph of the Avion 3 in this article actually shows the machine "in flight," as the caption states. I don't think camera shutter speeds or photographic emulsion were good enough at the time to completely "stop" the motion of the propellers. If the Avion flew, it would have remained very close to the ground, yet no terrain is visible in the image. If there is evidence this photo shows the machine "in flight," I would like very much to see it. If there is no objection, this caption should be changed to remove the words "in flight". 4.227.249.79 16:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC) DonFB
The previous commenter is 100% right. Actually, the image was taken in the workshop of Satory. The french magazine "Science et Vie" published the original of this image in 1990 (#877, October 1990, page 94). I was not able to find the image on the web though. The original image shows the Avion III within the building. The wings seem covered with a white cloth or paper, probably in order to better delineate (or see) the contour from the background (I do not think it is a deliberate attempt to create a fake). (Just for the precision, I personally have no doubt that the machine flew, but this photo is not a proof.)
The birth date is April 2, 1841 and not February 4! In French, 2/4/1841 means 2 avril 1841, we indicate first the day and after the month of the date! I am not a number 14:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
As drafted, the article gives the impression that Ader and the commission were frauds trying to steal the Wrights' success. Is that correct? It certainly does not sound very encyclopedic. 193.132.242.1 11:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I copied and condensed material from Clément Ader#Development of aircraft to Airplane#Early powered flights with this edit. User:HopsonRoad 02:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Mrs.Laurent, The Centre Nationale des Resources Textuelle e Lexicales shows the probable origin of "avion" as "Dér. du lat. avis « oiseau »; suff. -on*." Cheers, HopsonRoad ( talk) 16:25, 23 March 2020 (UTC)