The cover of the game seems to show mechs and futuristic soldiers, however these are not listed in the new units section. Are they even in the game? Is the cover therefore misleading? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.138.135 ( talk) 02:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
As i did commented on the previous expansion, it's glad to see the Netherlands are coming back =), i just guessing who will be the leader, might be William of Orange? as in Civilization III Conquests? .. perhaps yes, maybe not. Just time or any spies over there will answer those questions, and about that commentary of racism towards poland i think that is out of place, hey folks this is just a game. If one civilization is not included on the expansion that doesn't mean sid is making some sort of bias, however it is always fun to find new civs time to time. -- HappyApple 19:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Leaders such as Hammurabi of the Babylonians, Abraham Lincoln of the United States, and Sitting Bull of the Native Americans will provide the player with even more choices on who they want to play.
that seems to me to be a clear sign that they are going to have a generic Native American civ for Sitting Bull to be leader of. I'm going to go ahead and add this in, if someone thinks it is too big of a leap of faith put a note here and delete it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC).
i removed the speculation about Charles de Gaulle, the only reason it's thought that he is a new leader in the game is because of a picture that shows up at the bottom of the firaxis webpage about Beyond the Sword but the only reason that happens is because that picture (which is from Railroads) is a part of the web page template of the site so it shows up on every page. This was true before they announced Beyond the Sword so i doubt it's a sign that he shows up in the game (any more than it's a sign that they are going to retroactivly add him to Alpha Centauri or Pirates). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds ( talk • contribs) 11:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
From http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/civilizationivbeyondthesword/interview.html "One of my favorite leaders is Queen Boudica of the Celts" Stated by Alex Mantzaris, lead programmer and lead designer for Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword. 195.24.29.51 11:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
It should have been Micheal Collins as the new leader of the Celts.
Seeing a barrage of new information, I'm going to do a bit of a clean-up here. Nothing major, only a bit of restructuring and stuff. Nothing to be deleted. Sabre 08:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, I agree with your suggestion of making a separate Random Events article. The Feature text about the new Random Events should just explain the new possibility of these events, while the complete list of the Events should be moved to a separate article to be created at a later date. Sneakyhomunculus 12:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of making a table at the New Buildings and New Wonders section. The "name (info)" idea doesn't look quite as clean. Anybody with me? Sabre 05:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
The General Mills corporation currently redirects to an existing real-life company. I propose all corps are suffixed with "(Civ IV)" or somesuch so that the links remain red until specific Civ IV corporation articles are created.
Either that or remove the link altogether - linking to existing companies is not right: Firaxis clearly intend for these to be generic company names not related to existing companies (or parodying them) 195.24.29.51 10:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I followed the link, but I find nothing on this feature in the http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=165702 thread. Please provide a better source, inform me of my blindness ;), or remove the claim.
thx 195.24.29.51 11:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5481451&postcount=27 Seriphyn 21:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Schafer says "not technically Ninjas". He has not denied the presence of Ninjas. Sabre 04:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
There are tons of ninjas in the game! (They're just so ninja-like that you haven't even noticed them)-- 72.67.9.126 22:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"Play as the Allies or Axis in both the European or the Pacific Theater of the Second World War." Shouldn't the second "or" be "and"? If you really can only fight in one theater in a given game it would seem this is actually two seperate scenerios. Also we're missing a source on this sentence. Jon 13:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Has there been any information released about how this expansion pack will work with Warlords? Will they be inclusive or cumulative or exclusive? PolarisSLBM 18:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I bought Beyond the Sword and didn't buy Warlords, and it works just fine. From what I can see, BtS has almost completely destroyed any need to buy warlords now, since it includes near everything it had. The only thing I see missing are the scenarios. Should we include some sort of info that BtS contains all the stuff Warlords had? I'd assume some people would be checking the wikipedia article if they're just getting into Civ IV, and planning on buying it with the expansions. It would help people to save some money. - August 23rd 2007, 7:34 PM [Central] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.210.125.110 ( talk) 00:35, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Was the African Civ really confirmed? All the cited source says is 'Africa-related content'.
YEA ITS CALLED ETHIOPIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.223.240 ( talk) 23:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Isnt that another trait combination that is unused?
Recently the following information was added:
It seems to me like just about any game that will come out is going to not make all people everywhere happy. Becaus forums are not notable sources, I'm not convinced that this information is significant enough to be included. What does everyone else think? -- Ybbor Talk 22:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
On the official website recently released, there's some information on the new scenarios that's conflicting with what's already been announced. Part of the page gives the early claim of 12 new scenarios, but if you read on...
"The expansion will deliver 11 new scenarios..."
The Scenarios portion of the website lists these 11 scenarios, and theres no mention of "Chaos" or "Superrobo". Filling one of those slots is "Civ Defense", a scenario focusing on defending against waves of enemies. If there is only those 11 scenarios, Chaos could still exist in the expansion as a custom game option (I think it makes more sense that way) but Superrobo looks to have gotten the boot. Can anyone make sense of this? AlphaBetauri 09:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Recently some users (mostly IP's as far as I can tell) have added colors to the civilization tables in this article (e.g. 1, 2). However, User:Jack's Revenge reverted these changes under the edit summary "Removed color; please DON'T USE color in all Civ IV articles since it does NOT provide ANY further information and reduces clarity and is a helluvawork to remove!" I have to agree with him, as this color is unnecessarily eye-catching, and can be an eyesore depending on the tastes of the reader. However, I can see that this information could be useful in the sense that it does provide new information by showing what color a civ plays as in the game. My personal preference would be to have no color used in this context, but I think a good compromise would be to create a new column that shows the color for each civilization, but only in that box. What is the community's consensus? -- Ybbor Talk 13:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
People, I'm getting tired of fixing this time and time again. I know earlier sources noted 12 new scenarios including among thing a Chaos scenario, but the official site is clear. There will only be 11 new scenarios and no Superrobo or Chaos scenarios. Instead a CIV Defense scenario has been included. Please don't change it back to 12.
Any talk of a Civ-IV Gold Edition? Similar to Civ2 and Civ3's Gold Edition? (A Gold Edition is the game + the 2 expansion packs). Rypcord 14:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
There are some parts of articles which is violating WP:NOT such has new units,New technologies and few others. All this sort of info can be added in wikia. All the info which cannot be entered in wikipedia can be added here. Thank you -- SkyWalker 07:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The game is released in the UK on the 20th of July... not the 30th like the "rest of the world". So first its wrong to make that statement and second if the UK date was wrong then what about the rest of Europe? Stabby Joe 00:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Any word yet on Civilization V? The Rypcord. 13:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I noticed a lack of imagery in this article. I have BtS, so I can upload screenshots for you guys. Just give me a situation, and I'll do my best. Quantum Burrito 00:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The game itself refers to it as native america.
Also, I think we should have seperate short description (Babylonia) and civ name (Babylonian Empire). 58.169.203.10 01:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it a stand-alone expansion pack, or do you need to buy the civilization iv first?] and then beyond the sword, or you can just buy beyond the sword? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.128.2.68 ( talk) 23:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC) You need to buy the civilization iv first - Thekidz2237 ( talk) 02:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Stalin is expansion pack "Warlords". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.43.152.110 ( talk) 01:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The graphics must be designed to work best with the latest GeForce. My game is jerky. 24.4.131.142 16:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been looking for news of whether there will be a Mac port of BtS or not, both for my own information and to put in the article. I can't find any word either way. Can anyone help? Professor Chaos ( talk) 21:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
"I'd love for us to do Civ: BTS for Mac. I can't say absolutely we'll never do it (thank goodness!) but also can't say 100% we are going to do it. There are non-technical reasons it hasn't come to the Mac yet, and being in Development, those are out of my control, unfortunately. In a perfect world we'd have ported it and released it simultaneous with the PC (which we could have done technically), but for no single person's or company's fault it didn't happen that way.
Glenda"
That's Glenda Adams, Developer, Aspyr Media. Link: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=340724 85.227.226.252 ( talk) 20:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I suggest moving the article to Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword since that is the game's full title. SharkD ( talk) 01:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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The Mesoamerica scenario doesn't appear to be included in the article. Was that added in an update? Chronolegion ( talk) 19:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
It says Xerxes is a leader of Persia. He isn't in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.170.117 ( talk) 01:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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The cover of the game seems to show mechs and futuristic soldiers, however these are not listed in the new units section. Are they even in the game? Is the cover therefore misleading? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.138.135 ( talk) 02:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
As i did commented on the previous expansion, it's glad to see the Netherlands are coming back =), i just guessing who will be the leader, might be William of Orange? as in Civilization III Conquests? .. perhaps yes, maybe not. Just time or any spies over there will answer those questions, and about that commentary of racism towards poland i think that is out of place, hey folks this is just a game. If one civilization is not included on the expansion that doesn't mean sid is making some sort of bias, however it is always fun to find new civs time to time. -- HappyApple 19:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Leaders such as Hammurabi of the Babylonians, Abraham Lincoln of the United States, and Sitting Bull of the Native Americans will provide the player with even more choices on who they want to play.
that seems to me to be a clear sign that they are going to have a generic Native American civ for Sitting Bull to be leader of. I'm going to go ahead and add this in, if someone thinks it is too big of a leap of faith put a note here and delete it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds ( talk • contribs) 00:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC).
i removed the speculation about Charles de Gaulle, the only reason it's thought that he is a new leader in the game is because of a picture that shows up at the bottom of the firaxis webpage about Beyond the Sword but the only reason that happens is because that picture (which is from Railroads) is a part of the web page template of the site so it shows up on every page. This was true before they announced Beyond the Sword so i doubt it's a sign that he shows up in the game (any more than it's a sign that they are going to retroactivly add him to Alpha Centauri or Pirates). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Harlock jds ( talk • contribs) 11:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC).
From http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/civilizationivbeyondthesword/interview.html "One of my favorite leaders is Queen Boudica of the Celts" Stated by Alex Mantzaris, lead programmer and lead designer for Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword. 195.24.29.51 11:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
It should have been Micheal Collins as the new leader of the Celts.
Seeing a barrage of new information, I'm going to do a bit of a clean-up here. Nothing major, only a bit of restructuring and stuff. Nothing to be deleted. Sabre 08:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Also, I agree with your suggestion of making a separate Random Events article. The Feature text about the new Random Events should just explain the new possibility of these events, while the complete list of the Events should be moved to a separate article to be created at a later date. Sneakyhomunculus 12:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking of making a table at the New Buildings and New Wonders section. The "name (info)" idea doesn't look quite as clean. Anybody with me? Sabre 05:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
The General Mills corporation currently redirects to an existing real-life company. I propose all corps are suffixed with "(Civ IV)" or somesuch so that the links remain red until specific Civ IV corporation articles are created.
Either that or remove the link altogether - linking to existing companies is not right: Firaxis clearly intend for these to be generic company names not related to existing companies (or parodying them) 195.24.29.51 10:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I followed the link, but I find nothing on this feature in the http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=165702 thread. Please provide a better source, inform me of my blindness ;), or remove the claim.
thx 195.24.29.51 11:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5481451&postcount=27 Seriphyn 21:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Schafer says "not technically Ninjas". He has not denied the presence of Ninjas. Sabre 04:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
There are tons of ninjas in the game! (They're just so ninja-like that you haven't even noticed them)-- 72.67.9.126 22:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
"Play as the Allies or Axis in both the European or the Pacific Theater of the Second World War." Shouldn't the second "or" be "and"? If you really can only fight in one theater in a given game it would seem this is actually two seperate scenerios. Also we're missing a source on this sentence. Jon 13:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Has there been any information released about how this expansion pack will work with Warlords? Will they be inclusive or cumulative or exclusive? PolarisSLBM 18:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to clarify, I bought Beyond the Sword and didn't buy Warlords, and it works just fine. From what I can see, BtS has almost completely destroyed any need to buy warlords now, since it includes near everything it had. The only thing I see missing are the scenarios. Should we include some sort of info that BtS contains all the stuff Warlords had? I'd assume some people would be checking the wikipedia article if they're just getting into Civ IV, and planning on buying it with the expansions. It would help people to save some money. - August 23rd 2007, 7:34 PM [Central] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.210.125.110 ( talk) 00:35, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Was the African Civ really confirmed? All the cited source says is 'Africa-related content'.
YEA ITS CALLED ETHIOPIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.223.240 ( talk) 23:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Isnt that another trait combination that is unused?
Recently the following information was added:
It seems to me like just about any game that will come out is going to not make all people everywhere happy. Becaus forums are not notable sources, I'm not convinced that this information is significant enough to be included. What does everyone else think? -- Ybbor Talk 22:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
On the official website recently released, there's some information on the new scenarios that's conflicting with what's already been announced. Part of the page gives the early claim of 12 new scenarios, but if you read on...
"The expansion will deliver 11 new scenarios..."
The Scenarios portion of the website lists these 11 scenarios, and theres no mention of "Chaos" or "Superrobo". Filling one of those slots is "Civ Defense", a scenario focusing on defending against waves of enemies. If there is only those 11 scenarios, Chaos could still exist in the expansion as a custom game option (I think it makes more sense that way) but Superrobo looks to have gotten the boot. Can anyone make sense of this? AlphaBetauri 09:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Recently some users (mostly IP's as far as I can tell) have added colors to the civilization tables in this article (e.g. 1, 2). However, User:Jack's Revenge reverted these changes under the edit summary "Removed color; please DON'T USE color in all Civ IV articles since it does NOT provide ANY further information and reduces clarity and is a helluvawork to remove!" I have to agree with him, as this color is unnecessarily eye-catching, and can be an eyesore depending on the tastes of the reader. However, I can see that this information could be useful in the sense that it does provide new information by showing what color a civ plays as in the game. My personal preference would be to have no color used in this context, but I think a good compromise would be to create a new column that shows the color for each civilization, but only in that box. What is the community's consensus? -- Ybbor Talk 13:51, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
People, I'm getting tired of fixing this time and time again. I know earlier sources noted 12 new scenarios including among thing a Chaos scenario, but the official site is clear. There will only be 11 new scenarios and no Superrobo or Chaos scenarios. Instead a CIV Defense scenario has been included. Please don't change it back to 12.
Any talk of a Civ-IV Gold Edition? Similar to Civ2 and Civ3's Gold Edition? (A Gold Edition is the game + the 2 expansion packs). Rypcord 14:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
There are some parts of articles which is violating WP:NOT such has new units,New technologies and few others. All this sort of info can be added in wikia. All the info which cannot be entered in wikipedia can be added here. Thank you -- SkyWalker 07:42, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The game is released in the UK on the 20th of July... not the 30th like the "rest of the world". So first its wrong to make that statement and second if the UK date was wrong then what about the rest of Europe? Stabby Joe 00:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Any word yet on Civilization V? The Rypcord. 13:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I noticed a lack of imagery in this article. I have BtS, so I can upload screenshots for you guys. Just give me a situation, and I'll do my best. Quantum Burrito 00:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The game itself refers to it as native america.
Also, I think we should have seperate short description (Babylonia) and civ name (Babylonian Empire). 58.169.203.10 01:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it a stand-alone expansion pack, or do you need to buy the civilization iv first?] and then beyond the sword, or you can just buy beyond the sword? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.128.2.68 ( talk) 23:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC) You need to buy the civilization iv first - Thekidz2237 ( talk) 02:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Stalin is expansion pack "Warlords". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.43.152.110 ( talk) 01:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
The graphics must be designed to work best with the latest GeForce. My game is jerky. 24.4.131.142 16:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been looking for news of whether there will be a Mac port of BtS or not, both for my own information and to put in the article. I can't find any word either way. Can anyone help? Professor Chaos ( talk) 21:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
"I'd love for us to do Civ: BTS for Mac. I can't say absolutely we'll never do it (thank goodness!) but also can't say 100% we are going to do it. There are non-technical reasons it hasn't come to the Mac yet, and being in Development, those are out of my control, unfortunately. In a perfect world we'd have ported it and released it simultaneous with the PC (which we could have done technically), but for no single person's or company's fault it didn't happen that way.
Glenda"
That's Glenda Adams, Developer, Aspyr Media. Link: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=340724 85.227.226.252 ( talk) 20:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
I suggest moving the article to Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword since that is the game's full title. SharkD ( talk) 01:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I recently removed links to this site added by the site-owner
This issue spans Wikipedias in multiple languages so there's a discussion underway on Meta-Wiki with the owner of this site at the bottom of this page:
Given the history discussed there, neither the site-owner, IPs nor new user accounts should add these links or write about these mods in article space since it's against our Conflict of Interest Guideline). If established editors wish to add neutral material about the owner or his products, that's OK. Any material should cite references that meet the requirements of our No Original Research, Reliable Sources and Verifiability standards.
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If you want to comment on this post, it would probably be best to leave any remarks at the link above, not here, since this discussion spans multiple articles. I think that if you're already signed in on this Wikipedia, leaving a post there will automatically set up an account there for you there but I'm not sure -- you might want to make a sandbox edit there first to be sure. -- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 12:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I temporarily removed this material from the modding section:
It had several edits by Rhye's site-owner and IPs embedded in it and I was unsure how to separate them out without screwing up the section. Established, neutral editors are welcome to work on this and then add it back. -- A. B. ( talk • contribs) 12:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
The Mesoamerica scenario doesn't appear to be included in the article. Was that added in an update? Chronolegion ( talk) 19:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
It says Xerxes is a leader of Persia. He isn't in the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.170.117 ( talk) 01:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
This is being discussed in the Civ:V article and likely to have ramifications for this previous incarnation's article too. Rather than tread the same ground over please join the debate; Talk:Civilization_V#Removal_of_tables_of_Civilizations to see if we can't reach a consensus.- Oosh ( talk) 12:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Should Fall from Heaven should have its own page, like Rhye's and Fall? I think it is a great mod, much deserving of its own page. Anyone agree? Willbat ( talk) 04:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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