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I want to query the following sentence:
This only makes sense if the Wolfe Rock Lighthouse Extra-Parochial Area is being used as a proper noun. And the capitalisation of E-P A also suggests this. But I can find no reference to an organisation, or other formal entity, called that.
The other reading is that the capitalisation of E-P A is a mistake, and this is simply a reference to an area that is extra-parochial. But then I don't understand the former, as the area is still unparished and hence extra-parochial. I'm strongly tempted to rewrite this paragraph as something like:
but I may be getting it wrong. For now, I will content myself with adding a fact tag. If noone comes up with an explanatory reference in a reasonable timescale, I will reconsider. -- Starbois ( talk) 13:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Zangar ( talk) 15:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
It would be better to move this page back to its original position (where it formed one of the sub-pages of List of civil parishes in England. Skinsmoke ( talk) 03:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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The table needs a column for the pre-2009 districts/boroughs. DuncanHill ( talk) 11:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Skinsmoke ( talk) 11:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC) All the "St"s should sort before Saltash, (i comes before l in the alphabet). DuncanHill ( talk) 14:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I'll just say I really don't have a preference here (come on guys, why does it really matter anyway?) as long as whatever is done is consistent. One thing of relevance (and probably should be incorporated into the table) is the ONS code available here. The ONS codes for parishes are assigned (with a few exceptions) in alphabetic order, so Advent is 00HE001, Altarnun is 00HE002 etc. South Petherwin is 00HE126 and St Agnes 00HE128, so Cornwall sorts St as St not Sa. However, in other counties with St X parishes the generally preferred sort location is Sa not St (the ratio is 4:1), for example Roborough is 18UK049, St Giles in the Wood 18UK050 and Shebbear 18UK052. It must be said that Cornwall has more "St X" parishes than the others combined (I think). Also the names according to the ONS are typically "St. X" with the exception of St Ives, Cambs and St Annes-on-Sea both of which are written as "Saint", this may or may not reflect a legislative distinction.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed that on your request that List of civil parishes in Cornwall (pre-2009) was merged into List of civil parishes in Cornwall. Although I agree fully with your above statement that the pre-2009 article was not fit for purpose, after discussion at WikiProject Cornwall we agreed that original version at List of civil parishes in Cornwall was the most up-to-date and should remain on that page. I have asked the admin who carried out the merging to see if they can revert it and then I think a better course of action would be to consider whether we either improve or delete the pre-2009 article. One of the main problems we had with how the information was presented on the (now) pre-2009 article was the inclusion of the former Municipal Borough and Rural/Urban Districts in the Notes section - as Cornwall became a unitary authority, people might assume these were the former District Councils that the UA replaced - therefore a split would be needed to preserve this info. (Sorry if that all seems confusing, after the merge it's hard to be clear about which version/page I'm talking about, please ask if you need clarification) On another note I agree that a common format would be good for the List of civil parishes in x for England and Wales. I see that there have been some discussions on various Users' talk pages on this - would it be best to have a discussion on this in a centralised location so all editors of List of civil parishes in x could contribute and be aware of it, if it ever gets rolled out? Perhaps on Talk:List of civil parishes in England? Cheers, Zangar ( talk) 14:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Zander. Thanks for your comments. I've replied at some length, with suggestions on how to incorporate your additions, on my Talk page. Please let me know there what you think. Skinsmoke ( talk) 15:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah good! Nilfanion has been creating a whole load of new maps for the UK. His location maps are here: commons:User:Nilfanion/Maps/Location maps and county-based maps (where I found the civil parishes one) here: commons:User:Nilfanion/Maps/Counties. That might help others in future. That makes sense about Wolf Rock. Zangar ( talk) 11:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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I've moved List of civil parishes in Cornwall/version 2 out of article space to Talk:Civil parishes in Cornwall/List of civil parishes in Cornwall (version 2), a subpage of this page. We shouldn't have subpages in article space (see WP:Subpages) and the list seems to be substantially the same as the one in the current version of the article. It contains some edit history, so I reckon it ought to be preserved as an archive. — SMALL JIM 12:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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I want to query the following sentence:
This only makes sense if the Wolfe Rock Lighthouse Extra-Parochial Area is being used as a proper noun. And the capitalisation of E-P A also suggests this. But I can find no reference to an organisation, or other formal entity, called that.
The other reading is that the capitalisation of E-P A is a mistake, and this is simply a reference to an area that is extra-parochial. But then I don't understand the former, as the area is still unparished and hence extra-parochial. I'm strongly tempted to rewrite this paragraph as something like:
but I may be getting it wrong. For now, I will content myself with adding a fact tag. If noone comes up with an explanatory reference in a reasonable timescale, I will reconsider. -- Starbois ( talk) 13:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Zangar ( talk) 15:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
It would be better to move this page back to its original position (where it formed one of the sub-pages of List of civil parishes in England. Skinsmoke ( talk) 03:12, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
All discussions below are closed, if you wish to contribute, please start a new topic
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The table needs a column for the pre-2009 districts/boroughs. DuncanHill ( talk) 11:53, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Skinsmoke ( talk) 11:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC) All the "St"s should sort before Saltash, (i comes before l in the alphabet). DuncanHill ( talk) 14:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
I'll just say I really don't have a preference here (come on guys, why does it really matter anyway?) as long as whatever is done is consistent. One thing of relevance (and probably should be incorporated into the table) is the ONS code available here. The ONS codes for parishes are assigned (with a few exceptions) in alphabetic order, so Advent is 00HE001, Altarnun is 00HE002 etc. South Petherwin is 00HE126 and St Agnes 00HE128, so Cornwall sorts St as St not Sa. However, in other counties with St X parishes the generally preferred sort location is Sa not St (the ratio is 4:1), for example Roborough is 18UK049, St Giles in the Wood 18UK050 and Shebbear 18UK052. It must be said that Cornwall has more "St X" parishes than the others combined (I think). Also the names according to the ONS are typically "St. X" with the exception of St Ives, Cambs and St Annes-on-Sea both of which are written as "Saint", this may or may not reflect a legislative distinction.-- Nilf anion ( talk) 09:20, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, I noticed that on your request that List of civil parishes in Cornwall (pre-2009) was merged into List of civil parishes in Cornwall. Although I agree fully with your above statement that the pre-2009 article was not fit for purpose, after discussion at WikiProject Cornwall we agreed that original version at List of civil parishes in Cornwall was the most up-to-date and should remain on that page. I have asked the admin who carried out the merging to see if they can revert it and then I think a better course of action would be to consider whether we either improve or delete the pre-2009 article. One of the main problems we had with how the information was presented on the (now) pre-2009 article was the inclusion of the former Municipal Borough and Rural/Urban Districts in the Notes section - as Cornwall became a unitary authority, people might assume these were the former District Councils that the UA replaced - therefore a split would be needed to preserve this info. (Sorry if that all seems confusing, after the merge it's hard to be clear about which version/page I'm talking about, please ask if you need clarification) On another note I agree that a common format would be good for the List of civil parishes in x for England and Wales. I see that there have been some discussions on various Users' talk pages on this - would it be best to have a discussion on this in a centralised location so all editors of List of civil parishes in x could contribute and be aware of it, if it ever gets rolled out? Perhaps on Talk:List of civil parishes in England? Cheers, Zangar ( talk) 14:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Zander. Thanks for your comments. I've replied at some length, with suggestions on how to incorporate your additions, on my Talk page. Please let me know there what you think. Skinsmoke ( talk) 15:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah good! Nilfanion has been creating a whole load of new maps for the UK. His location maps are here: commons:User:Nilfanion/Maps/Location maps and county-based maps (where I found the civil parishes one) here: commons:User:Nilfanion/Maps/Counties. That might help others in future. That makes sense about Wolf Rock. Zangar ( talk) 11:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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I've moved List of civil parishes in Cornwall/version 2 out of article space to Talk:Civil parishes in Cornwall/List of civil parishes in Cornwall (version 2), a subpage of this page. We shouldn't have subpages in article space (see WP:Subpages) and the list seems to be substantially the same as the one in the current version of the article. It contains some edit history, so I reckon it ought to be preserved as an archive. — SMALL JIM 12:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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