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I changed the links for community council UK back to community council - there's no need to disambiguate the links if only UK pages currently link to the page. Also, it's not necessary to link a page every time it appears - once or twice an article will do. Thanks. sjorford 13:50, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I am thinking there is a sense in which the civil parish exists or has existed in Scotland, that traditional counties were sub-divided into parishes (but these lacked their own councils). I seem to remember boundaries appearing on inch-to-the-mile OS maps. A quote from The Standing Stones of Caithness: "Myatt groups sites also with respect to the traditional parishes of Caithness, following perhaps the practice of the Royal Commission in 1911." Laurel Bush 12:18, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC).
Sorry, but this looks pretty nonsensical: In
Scotland, parishes - formerly akin to those of England - have lost the majority of their status, although are still in existence. As in Wales, a new system of communities has arisen which have come to take on some of the roles of parishes. However, unlike in England and Wales, the Scottish community council has no statutory powers, although in some cases
local councils have a legal obligation to include them in consultation exercises.
Parish councils were abolished by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1929 and, as areas defined by statute, parishes themselves seem to have been abolished by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, under which communtity council schemes were created by local authorities. (Community councils have not simply "arisen", either in Scotland or Wales. In Wales I believe a community council is essentially a restyled parish council, with status and powers very similar to an English parish council.) Parish areas may still be used for some statistical purposes, but they seeem to have no statutory status. Also, there is, so far as I know, no statutory obligation for the inclusion of community councils in local authority consultations, except along with the general public as regards proposals to change a scheme by which community councils themselves are established. If there are legal obligations, then these must be as a result of contracts between specific commuunity councils and specific local authorities.
Laurel Bush (
talk)
16:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Apologies but I have inadvertently deleted this page and copied Civil parish over the top. I will rectify asap but Wiki is slow this afternoon and I am having trouble getting into undelete. Cutler July 9, 2005 14:53 (UTC)
Why does Civil parish redirect to "Civil parish (England)"? Either it exists only in England, than the article should go to "Civil parish", or it does not, than an article at "Civil parish" should be created to explain where it is used. I will turn "Civil parish" in a dab page otherwise. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:24, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
What about town parishes? Some towns have town parish councils.
Has received Royal Assent and therefore civil parishes may be established in London Boroughs also. Now the only parts of England which a civil parish may not be established are the Isles of Scilly and the City of London. The article therefore needs updating. David 02:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The article still has some inconsistencies in what it says about London. I'd sort it out, but I don't know anything about the subject unfortunately. Northernhenge ( talk) 10:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I am greatly surprised to learn that all parish councils were abolished in 1974 and immediately re-created. My impression was that most parish councills had operated continuously without a break since the 1890s. Many district councils were of course amalgamated in the 1974 reorganisation, but I do not think there was much change to parishes, at least not in England. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
As a British wikipedian, I want to be able to have articles that relate to topics for my own country, without them being swampted by information from other countries. If some one wants a category on the issue worldwide, I have no objection to forking off the foreign sections into a new Civil Parish, with the present articel being renamed Civil Parish (Great Britain). This is what has had to happen with Toll roads, where there is a tree of different articles with different geographic or other scope. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I merged the two Ireland bits, since the only time civil parishes had much significance was before 1920.
I deleted the Local Government Act 1941 reference; I don't see how it's relevant since the Act doesn't mention parishes at all. jnestorius( talk) 22:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
{{ about}} currently displays This article is about civil parishes in Britain and Ireland. For other types, see Parish (disambiguation). The article discusses Parishes in other countries which seems to me to contradict the about statement. I am reluctant to change this as parish seems to me to be a bit complex:
I note as a relevant aside, List of civil parishes in England uses civil parish not Civil parishes in England
-- Senra ( Talk) 21:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Is it theoretically possible for modern-day parishes to span district and even county boundaries? Or must a parish exist solely within a single district? 98.221.141.21 ( talk) 08:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
I created this article by removing the England-related sections from Civil parish. I think it needs a fairly ruthless edit, for example reducing overlap with Parish councils in England. MRSC ( talk) 07:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to get some accurate numbers about the parishes:
Is this information published regularly, or is it scattered? MRSC ( talk) 08:17, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Since being a parish councillor is an entirely unpaid post, it is not uncommon for their to be unfilled seats. Some one tagged a statement about this for citation, but if there are 8 candidates for 10 seats, it is inevitable there will be an unopposed election and vacancies afterwards, whcih can be filled like any other vacancy. This applies to my own parish council. On a previous election when this happened, the returning officer provided details of invalid nominations (probably submitted too late), and a cooption took place. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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I changed the links for community council UK back to community council - there's no need to disambiguate the links if only UK pages currently link to the page. Also, it's not necessary to link a page every time it appears - once or twice an article will do. Thanks. sjorford 13:50, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I am thinking there is a sense in which the civil parish exists or has existed in Scotland, that traditional counties were sub-divided into parishes (but these lacked their own councils). I seem to remember boundaries appearing on inch-to-the-mile OS maps. A quote from The Standing Stones of Caithness: "Myatt groups sites also with respect to the traditional parishes of Caithness, following perhaps the practice of the Royal Commission in 1911." Laurel Bush 12:18, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC).
Sorry, but this looks pretty nonsensical: In
Scotland, parishes - formerly akin to those of England - have lost the majority of their status, although are still in existence. As in Wales, a new system of communities has arisen which have come to take on some of the roles of parishes. However, unlike in England and Wales, the Scottish community council has no statutory powers, although in some cases
local councils have a legal obligation to include them in consultation exercises.
Parish councils were abolished by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1929 and, as areas defined by statute, parishes themselves seem to have been abolished by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, under which communtity council schemes were created by local authorities. (Community councils have not simply "arisen", either in Scotland or Wales. In Wales I believe a community council is essentially a restyled parish council, with status and powers very similar to an English parish council.) Parish areas may still be used for some statistical purposes, but they seeem to have no statutory status. Also, there is, so far as I know, no statutory obligation for the inclusion of community councils in local authority consultations, except along with the general public as regards proposals to change a scheme by which community councils themselves are established. If there are legal obligations, then these must be as a result of contracts between specific commuunity councils and specific local authorities.
Laurel Bush (
talk)
16:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Apologies but I have inadvertently deleted this page and copied Civil parish over the top. I will rectify asap but Wiki is slow this afternoon and I am having trouble getting into undelete. Cutler July 9, 2005 14:53 (UTC)
Why does Civil parish redirect to "Civil parish (England)"? Either it exists only in England, than the article should go to "Civil parish", or it does not, than an article at "Civil parish" should be created to explain where it is used. I will turn "Civil parish" in a dab page otherwise. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:24, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
What about town parishes? Some towns have town parish councils.
Has received Royal Assent and therefore civil parishes may be established in London Boroughs also. Now the only parts of England which a civil parish may not be established are the Isles of Scilly and the City of London. The article therefore needs updating. David 02:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The article still has some inconsistencies in what it says about London. I'd sort it out, but I don't know anything about the subject unfortunately. Northernhenge ( talk) 10:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I am greatly surprised to learn that all parish councils were abolished in 1974 and immediately re-created. My impression was that most parish councills had operated continuously without a break since the 1890s. Many district councils were of course amalgamated in the 1974 reorganisation, but I do not think there was much change to parishes, at least not in England. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
As a British wikipedian, I want to be able to have articles that relate to topics for my own country, without them being swampted by information from other countries. If some one wants a category on the issue worldwide, I have no objection to forking off the foreign sections into a new Civil Parish, with the present articel being renamed Civil Parish (Great Britain). This is what has had to happen with Toll roads, where there is a tree of different articles with different geographic or other scope. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I merged the two Ireland bits, since the only time civil parishes had much significance was before 1920.
I deleted the Local Government Act 1941 reference; I don't see how it's relevant since the Act doesn't mention parishes at all. jnestorius( talk) 22:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
{{ about}} currently displays This article is about civil parishes in Britain and Ireland. For other types, see Parish (disambiguation). The article discusses Parishes in other countries which seems to me to contradict the about statement. I am reluctant to change this as parish seems to me to be a bit complex:
I note as a relevant aside, List of civil parishes in England uses civil parish not Civil parishes in England
-- Senra ( Talk) 21:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Is it theoretically possible for modern-day parishes to span district and even county boundaries? Or must a parish exist solely within a single district? 98.221.141.21 ( talk) 08:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
I created this article by removing the England-related sections from Civil parish. I think it needs a fairly ruthless edit, for example reducing overlap with Parish councils in England. MRSC ( talk) 07:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to get some accurate numbers about the parishes:
Is this information published regularly, or is it scattered? MRSC ( talk) 08:17, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Since being a parish councillor is an entirely unpaid post, it is not uncommon for their to be unfilled seats. Some one tagged a statement about this for citation, but if there are 8 candidates for 10 seats, it is inevitable there will be an unopposed election and vacancies afterwards, whcih can be filled like any other vacancy. This applies to my own parish council. On a previous election when this happened, the returning officer provided details of invalid nominations (probably submitted too late), and a cooption took place. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)