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Maybe we could do without all this anti-Peugeot ranting ? Hektor 20:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Article currently fills in some of the mystery around the CX - a hit product that was not exploited by the parent company for some reason. As long as we stick with historical facts, there is no issue here. 66.229.41.185 06:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Not exploited ? what you mean by that ? This statement is just editorializing to me. There is nothing to substantiate it. Hektor 21:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Who removed some of the photos? Why???
Are you sure?. Take a look to another Robert Opron design, the Renault 25. Randroide 11:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
The Honda Insight looks a lot more like the CX than the R25. The design elements of the CX, (smooth flowing lines, coupled with the loooong wheelbase, skirts, and wide front track stance} do not appear together in any other sedan - so far! You can certainly pick elements of lots of other cars and say they appear to be influenced by the CX, like the aero look, single wiper, and recessed doorhandles, but I can't really imagine confusing the CX with anything else. 66.77.124.61 00:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Jesus!. You are right!. Growing up in Spain I was surrounded by these cars, and I never realized that simple fact!. Yes, the BX frontal is a "folded paper design school" version of the SD1. Randroide 13:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Amazing. The BX was a futuristic head-turner in 1983...and a prototype with the same shape existed in back 1977!. Thank you for the reference. I suggest you to paste the reference in Citroen BX. Randroide 15:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
But I suppose that we all know which was really the first one: The prototype BMC 1800 Berlina Aerodinamica [1] [2]
And, if we want to go further to the roots of the Citröen CX, we must cite german aerodinamicist Wunibald Kamm (see Kammback) Article about Kamm with Citroen CX reference Randroide 17:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I am from Spain. This is very interestant article and I think that very well documented. Sorry for my not very good english.
But, you forget to mention the most important production plant outside France for the CX. Between October of 1976 and September of 1980, the Citroën CX was manufactured in the spanish Citroën plant of Vigo, in the Community of Galicia, and was the 1977 Car of the Year in Spain. The only engine was the petrol 2.400cc with carburator and 115CV, 4v first and 5v later. And some units of CX 2400 GTI with injection. The spanish version was CX 2400 Palas (note that in Spain the luxury equipment PALLAS was renamed PALAS (with only one L), and I think that was the only country to make this, beacuse the South American CX manufactured in Chile was Pallas.
You can confirm all this with a review of some of the spanish Citroën entusiasts pages, specially this, were you can see photos of a fine unit of a spanish CX 2400 Palas, Made in Vigo >>>
http://www.elcitroencx.org/foros/viewtopic.php?t=482&sid=37e7a6ce84f893293c9d793b834759e6
And this interesting page with a dossier of the history of CX, and mentions for spanish CX versions >>>
http://www.elcitroencx.org/Dossier.htm
Another good Citroën forum is > http://www.lhmmaniacos.com and a very good page for classics of all car brands is > http://www.pieldetoro.net
The CX was discontinued in Spain because the new project of government "Plan Sahagún" for 1980, for the free entrance of foreign cars. Citroën Hispania discontinued the CX for manufacture the Peugeot 505. Since that moment, the CX began to be imported from France
Thanks,
Eugenio.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.221.240.243 ( talk) 21:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
My english is far from perfect, so I suggest some facts to add:
Randroide 08:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Compare with the BL Princess, with a boot, and the Austin Ambassador. Reputedly there was to be a hatchback version of the Series 2 CX, but it never came to anything.
Gordonjcp 11:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Engines: Engine list in top sidebar is incomplete. -- Linuxslate ( talk) 16:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Ehhrrr..sorry. I was, it seems, a bit unfocused. I meant the the car was a Fastback (she has not a Hatch), NOT a Hatchback and NOT a Liftback.
The CX looked like a modern Hatchback, but it was not one of them.
In other words: The rear glass was fixed. This was a mayor inconvenience against competitors like the Rover SD1, the Renault 25. Even the old Renault 20/30 had Hatchbacks!. Randroide 19:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
....and yet no one ever slams the Audi A6 or BMW 3 Series for not being proper hatchbacks. The CX was a fastback sedan - that was integral to the design. The design team felt that folks who needed a folding rear seat should get a Break. Given the disappointing sales results with the XM hatch, hard to argue. 66.77.124.61 01:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if there is some contradiction here:
"In 1986 the styling was revised, and became known as the Series 2. The cars lost some of their earlier distinctiveness. The suspension became stiffer. Plastic bumpers were the most notable exterior change, giving what some say is a more aggressive look, as opposed to the more elegant series 1 design."
"The most collectible CX models are the very rare Series 1 GTi Turbo, and the Series 2 Prestige Turbo."
Aldo L 200.61.236.221 05:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
..distinctiveness....agressive...elegant...all hard words to "prove." Collectible - that's not a hard one tough - just check the values. 66.77.124.61 04:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd take some issue with the 25GTi Turbo 2 refitted with the frankly awful automatic gearbox being the "Ultimate CX". It would be great for about a week or so, until it grenades the gearbox which would have been being used well above its stated capacity. Surely the "Ultimate CX" has to be the 25GTi Turbo 2 fitted with the gearbox from the 25DTR Turbo 2, as built by many enthusiasts after seeing what the Gendarmerie did for some of their traffic cars. Given a little excess boost pressure, they were reputedly capable of over 200mph. Having driven such a car, I can say that certainly seems possible.
--- User:Gordonjcp ( talk| contributions), 10:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I'll remove the sentence about what's collectible, unless somebody finds a good source for the current claim. Right now it's both an unsourced statement (i.e. original research) and a slight NPO violation. It's a matter of taste and only useful as a fact, if it's from a reputable source that makes such a claim or there's for instance a survey among 5000 Citroën collectors. Rasbelin ( talk) 21:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
The Grace Jones TV commercial was made, if I remember well, in 1985...and the CX in the commercial sports plastic bumpers and a "normal" (vs the "lensatic" speedometer) instruments pad. Randroide 09:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The Series 2 is model year 1986 - the first 1986 models rolled out of the factory in August 1985. Thus the phenomenon of the "1985" Series 2 car. 66.229.151.43 07:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
If Someone Tells You That "Miniscule" Isn't a Real Spelling... "This spelling [miniscule] was first recorded at the end of the 19th century (minuscule dates back to 1705), but it did not begin to appear frequently in edited prose until the 1940s. Its increasingly common use parallels the increasingly common use of the word itself, especially as an adjective meaning `very small.' "
During the last half of the 20th century, dictionary lines have been adding "miniscule." A telling case comes with the "Concise Oxford" dictionaries. The Eighth Edition, published in the mid-1980s, does have an entry for "miniscule," but labels it as "erroneous." However the "Concise Oxford Dictionary," Ninth Edition (1995) lists "miniscule" as simply a "variant" spelling.
The "American Heritage Dictionary," Third Edition (1992) gives "miniscule" as a full-fledged variant of "minuscule," as does "Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary," Tenth Edition (1993). Merriam-Webster's has been listing "miniscule" in their dictionaries since at least 1971.
"The Random House Unabridged Dictionary," Second Edition (1987) lists "miniscule" as a variant, with a usage note stating that while "this newer spelling is criticized by many, it occurs with such frequency in edited writing that some consider it a variant spelling rather than a misspelling."
I am told (on an Internet newsgroup) that "Macquarie's Australian Dictionary," Second Edition lists "miniscule" as a variant spelling as well.
Also noted in the "miniscule, minuscule" entry in "Merriam- Webster's Dictionary of English Usage" is this:
"It may be, in fact, that miniscule is now the more common form. An article by Michael Kenney in the Boston Globe on 12 May 1985 noted that miniscule outnumbered minuscule by three to one in that newspaper's data base.
That entry concludes with this statement on the spelling "miniscule":
"Our own view is that any spelling which occurs so commonly, year after year, in perfectly reputable and carefully edited books and periodicals must be regarded as a standard variant."
By Cornell Kimball 66.229.151.43 07:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I read: "At launch in 1974, the car was rushed to market, with many teething issues. Very early models do not have power steering, making them difficult to drive."
What are these "many teething issues"? Unlike the DS and GS, it seems that the CX had no more teething trouble than the average car.
And why the CX with no power steering would it be more difficult to drive than any comparable car of the 1970s with mechanical steering, without speaking of earlier ones? I think this comment is not useful.
-- Rebollo fr 23:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The 2.5l turbo-diesel could suffer from a porous cylinder block - one UK expert told me that they had been produced on the cheap in India. Citroen UK refused to accept that there was a problem, and a replacement engine cost some three thousand GBP in 1994. Do not ask me how I know this. In contrast, the lucky Dutch owner could get a replacement motor at no cost. Mr Larrington ( talk) 14:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
We seem to have modified ourselves into a miss here: "Many factors, mainly financial, caused Citroën to withdraw itself from US and Canada market. In addition, the increasingly stricter emission and safety regulations in the USA was the final nail in the coffin for Citroën's export drive to the US market."
In reality, Citroën's disappearance from the U.S. was a freak accident - the U.S. passed a particular poorly conceived non-safety related piece of regulation effective January 1974 - the 5 mile per hour bumper regulation for passenger cars. Since the regulation was a bizarre piece of gevernment meddling in the free market, it was repealed by Ronald Reagan in 1981.
Most manufacturers could comply with this regulation, but only by leaving deep scars in the automobile. Citroën could not - the Citroën height adjustable suspension was incompatible with the text of the regulation. A textbook case of criminalizing a technology. The government probably didn't set out to ban Citroëns - the issue just wasn't thought through.
Since the CX was very successful in the US grey market, and in European export markets like the UK, and was well reviewed by the US motoring press, it is logical to think the CX would have ridden the same import boom that took off in 1974 and took Volvo, BMW, and Audi from non-entity status to what they are today in the US. These companies were able to earn excess profits from the US market that they plowed back into product development. Since Citroën was denied this resource, the success of the CX turned into the failure of the XM.
The bankruptcy of Citroën and internecine rivalry with Peugeot certainly didn't help matters, but asserting that these were the main cause of the retreat is opinion as should be labeled as such.
Emissions standards were never an issue - the components are a commodity - bolt them on and you are set.
Also - the word "loophole" is perjorative and should be excised. In a dictatorship, the purpose of the government is to hurt it's citizens if they get out of line; if you want to argue that the US is a dictatorship - that's a long road to go down and might veer slightly OT from Citroën CX...... 66.77.124.62 18:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The ban on height-adjustable suspension is often quoted as the reason for Citroen ceasing existing models and failing to introduce new ones. I would like to see the actual USA CFR that bans and repeals height-adjustable suspension. Honestly, I doubt it exists. Case in point; the Mercedes-Benz 600 and various Rolls-Royce models. Both of these vehicles/vendors produced vehicles that either used air-adjustable or hydraulic-based height-adjustable suspensions on models sold in the USA during 1974 to 1981. (See the wiki articles on these vehicles for proof) It's self-evident and far more logical to assume that Citroen was a manufacture in turmoil during the 70's. The USA is a difficult market, which to this day which is the primary reason as cited by Citroen and Peugeot as justification for staying away from this market. User:alan505 ( talk| contributions), 9:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. --- J.S ( t| c) 15:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
--- User:Gordonjcp ( talk| contributions), 10:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The "CX in North America" section suffers terribly from weasel words, like it was wrote by a Citroen employee. Can someone take a look at this? Thanks 81.137.240.118 ( talk) 10:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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Maybe we could do without all this anti-Peugeot ranting ? Hektor 20:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Article currently fills in some of the mystery around the CX - a hit product that was not exploited by the parent company for some reason. As long as we stick with historical facts, there is no issue here. 66.229.41.185 06:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Not exploited ? what you mean by that ? This statement is just editorializing to me. There is nothing to substantiate it. Hektor 21:03, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Who removed some of the photos? Why???
Are you sure?. Take a look to another Robert Opron design, the Renault 25. Randroide 11:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
The Honda Insight looks a lot more like the CX than the R25. The design elements of the CX, (smooth flowing lines, coupled with the loooong wheelbase, skirts, and wide front track stance} do not appear together in any other sedan - so far! You can certainly pick elements of lots of other cars and say they appear to be influenced by the CX, like the aero look, single wiper, and recessed doorhandles, but I can't really imagine confusing the CX with anything else. 66.77.124.61 00:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Jesus!. You are right!. Growing up in Spain I was surrounded by these cars, and I never realized that simple fact!. Yes, the BX frontal is a "folded paper design school" version of the SD1. Randroide 13:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Amazing. The BX was a futuristic head-turner in 1983...and a prototype with the same shape existed in back 1977!. Thank you for the reference. I suggest you to paste the reference in Citroen BX. Randroide 15:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
But I suppose that we all know which was really the first one: The prototype BMC 1800 Berlina Aerodinamica [1] [2]
And, if we want to go further to the roots of the Citröen CX, we must cite german aerodinamicist Wunibald Kamm (see Kammback) Article about Kamm with Citroen CX reference Randroide 17:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I am from Spain. This is very interestant article and I think that very well documented. Sorry for my not very good english.
But, you forget to mention the most important production plant outside France for the CX. Between October of 1976 and September of 1980, the Citroën CX was manufactured in the spanish Citroën plant of Vigo, in the Community of Galicia, and was the 1977 Car of the Year in Spain. The only engine was the petrol 2.400cc with carburator and 115CV, 4v first and 5v later. And some units of CX 2400 GTI with injection. The spanish version was CX 2400 Palas (note that in Spain the luxury equipment PALLAS was renamed PALAS (with only one L), and I think that was the only country to make this, beacuse the South American CX manufactured in Chile was Pallas.
You can confirm all this with a review of some of the spanish Citroën entusiasts pages, specially this, were you can see photos of a fine unit of a spanish CX 2400 Palas, Made in Vigo >>>
http://www.elcitroencx.org/foros/viewtopic.php?t=482&sid=37e7a6ce84f893293c9d793b834759e6
And this interesting page with a dossier of the history of CX, and mentions for spanish CX versions >>>
http://www.elcitroencx.org/Dossier.htm
Another good Citroën forum is > http://www.lhmmaniacos.com and a very good page for classics of all car brands is > http://www.pieldetoro.net
The CX was discontinued in Spain because the new project of government "Plan Sahagún" for 1980, for the free entrance of foreign cars. Citroën Hispania discontinued the CX for manufacture the Peugeot 505. Since that moment, the CX began to be imported from France
Thanks,
Eugenio.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.221.240.243 ( talk) 21:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
My english is far from perfect, so I suggest some facts to add:
Randroide 08:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Compare with the BL Princess, with a boot, and the Austin Ambassador. Reputedly there was to be a hatchback version of the Series 2 CX, but it never came to anything.
Gordonjcp 11:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Engines: Engine list in top sidebar is incomplete. -- Linuxslate ( talk) 16:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Ehhrrr..sorry. I was, it seems, a bit unfocused. I meant the the car was a Fastback (she has not a Hatch), NOT a Hatchback and NOT a Liftback.
The CX looked like a modern Hatchback, but it was not one of them.
In other words: The rear glass was fixed. This was a mayor inconvenience against competitors like the Rover SD1, the Renault 25. Even the old Renault 20/30 had Hatchbacks!. Randroide 19:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
....and yet no one ever slams the Audi A6 or BMW 3 Series for not being proper hatchbacks. The CX was a fastback sedan - that was integral to the design. The design team felt that folks who needed a folding rear seat should get a Break. Given the disappointing sales results with the XM hatch, hard to argue. 66.77.124.61 01:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if there is some contradiction here:
"In 1986 the styling was revised, and became known as the Series 2. The cars lost some of their earlier distinctiveness. The suspension became stiffer. Plastic bumpers were the most notable exterior change, giving what some say is a more aggressive look, as opposed to the more elegant series 1 design."
"The most collectible CX models are the very rare Series 1 GTi Turbo, and the Series 2 Prestige Turbo."
Aldo L 200.61.236.221 05:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
..distinctiveness....agressive...elegant...all hard words to "prove." Collectible - that's not a hard one tough - just check the values. 66.77.124.61 04:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd take some issue with the 25GTi Turbo 2 refitted with the frankly awful automatic gearbox being the "Ultimate CX". It would be great for about a week or so, until it grenades the gearbox which would have been being used well above its stated capacity. Surely the "Ultimate CX" has to be the 25GTi Turbo 2 fitted with the gearbox from the 25DTR Turbo 2, as built by many enthusiasts after seeing what the Gendarmerie did for some of their traffic cars. Given a little excess boost pressure, they were reputedly capable of over 200mph. Having driven such a car, I can say that certainly seems possible.
--- User:Gordonjcp ( talk| contributions), 10:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I'll remove the sentence about what's collectible, unless somebody finds a good source for the current claim. Right now it's both an unsourced statement (i.e. original research) and a slight NPO violation. It's a matter of taste and only useful as a fact, if it's from a reputable source that makes such a claim or there's for instance a survey among 5000 Citroën collectors. Rasbelin ( talk) 21:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
The Grace Jones TV commercial was made, if I remember well, in 1985...and the CX in the commercial sports plastic bumpers and a "normal" (vs the "lensatic" speedometer) instruments pad. Randroide 09:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The Series 2 is model year 1986 - the first 1986 models rolled out of the factory in August 1985. Thus the phenomenon of the "1985" Series 2 car. 66.229.151.43 07:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
If Someone Tells You That "Miniscule" Isn't a Real Spelling... "This spelling [miniscule] was first recorded at the end of the 19th century (minuscule dates back to 1705), but it did not begin to appear frequently in edited prose until the 1940s. Its increasingly common use parallels the increasingly common use of the word itself, especially as an adjective meaning `very small.' "
During the last half of the 20th century, dictionary lines have been adding "miniscule." A telling case comes with the "Concise Oxford" dictionaries. The Eighth Edition, published in the mid-1980s, does have an entry for "miniscule," but labels it as "erroneous." However the "Concise Oxford Dictionary," Ninth Edition (1995) lists "miniscule" as simply a "variant" spelling.
The "American Heritage Dictionary," Third Edition (1992) gives "miniscule" as a full-fledged variant of "minuscule," as does "Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary," Tenth Edition (1993). Merriam-Webster's has been listing "miniscule" in their dictionaries since at least 1971.
"The Random House Unabridged Dictionary," Second Edition (1987) lists "miniscule" as a variant, with a usage note stating that while "this newer spelling is criticized by many, it occurs with such frequency in edited writing that some consider it a variant spelling rather than a misspelling."
I am told (on an Internet newsgroup) that "Macquarie's Australian Dictionary," Second Edition lists "miniscule" as a variant spelling as well.
Also noted in the "miniscule, minuscule" entry in "Merriam- Webster's Dictionary of English Usage" is this:
"It may be, in fact, that miniscule is now the more common form. An article by Michael Kenney in the Boston Globe on 12 May 1985 noted that miniscule outnumbered minuscule by three to one in that newspaper's data base.
That entry concludes with this statement on the spelling "miniscule":
"Our own view is that any spelling which occurs so commonly, year after year, in perfectly reputable and carefully edited books and periodicals must be regarded as a standard variant."
By Cornell Kimball 66.229.151.43 07:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I read: "At launch in 1974, the car was rushed to market, with many teething issues. Very early models do not have power steering, making them difficult to drive."
What are these "many teething issues"? Unlike the DS and GS, it seems that the CX had no more teething trouble than the average car.
And why the CX with no power steering would it be more difficult to drive than any comparable car of the 1970s with mechanical steering, without speaking of earlier ones? I think this comment is not useful.
-- Rebollo fr 23:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The 2.5l turbo-diesel could suffer from a porous cylinder block - one UK expert told me that they had been produced on the cheap in India. Citroen UK refused to accept that there was a problem, and a replacement engine cost some three thousand GBP in 1994. Do not ask me how I know this. In contrast, the lucky Dutch owner could get a replacement motor at no cost. Mr Larrington ( talk) 14:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
We seem to have modified ourselves into a miss here: "Many factors, mainly financial, caused Citroën to withdraw itself from US and Canada market. In addition, the increasingly stricter emission and safety regulations in the USA was the final nail in the coffin for Citroën's export drive to the US market."
In reality, Citroën's disappearance from the U.S. was a freak accident - the U.S. passed a particular poorly conceived non-safety related piece of regulation effective January 1974 - the 5 mile per hour bumper regulation for passenger cars. Since the regulation was a bizarre piece of gevernment meddling in the free market, it was repealed by Ronald Reagan in 1981.
Most manufacturers could comply with this regulation, but only by leaving deep scars in the automobile. Citroën could not - the Citroën height adjustable suspension was incompatible with the text of the regulation. A textbook case of criminalizing a technology. The government probably didn't set out to ban Citroëns - the issue just wasn't thought through.
Since the CX was very successful in the US grey market, and in European export markets like the UK, and was well reviewed by the US motoring press, it is logical to think the CX would have ridden the same import boom that took off in 1974 and took Volvo, BMW, and Audi from non-entity status to what they are today in the US. These companies were able to earn excess profits from the US market that they plowed back into product development. Since Citroën was denied this resource, the success of the CX turned into the failure of the XM.
The bankruptcy of Citroën and internecine rivalry with Peugeot certainly didn't help matters, but asserting that these were the main cause of the retreat is opinion as should be labeled as such.
Emissions standards were never an issue - the components are a commodity - bolt them on and you are set.
Also - the word "loophole" is perjorative and should be excised. In a dictatorship, the purpose of the government is to hurt it's citizens if they get out of line; if you want to argue that the US is a dictatorship - that's a long road to go down and might veer slightly OT from Citroën CX...... 66.77.124.62 18:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The ban on height-adjustable suspension is often quoted as the reason for Citroen ceasing existing models and failing to introduce new ones. I would like to see the actual USA CFR that bans and repeals height-adjustable suspension. Honestly, I doubt it exists. Case in point; the Mercedes-Benz 600 and various Rolls-Royce models. Both of these vehicles/vendors produced vehicles that either used air-adjustable or hydraulic-based height-adjustable suspensions on models sold in the USA during 1974 to 1981. (See the wiki articles on these vehicles for proof) It's self-evident and far more logical to assume that Citroen was a manufacture in turmoil during the 70's. The USA is a difficult market, which to this day which is the primary reason as cited by Citroen and Peugeot as justification for staying away from this market. User:alan505 ( talk| contributions), 9:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. --- J.S ( t| c) 15:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
--- User:Gordonjcp ( talk| contributions), 10:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The "CX in North America" section suffers terribly from weasel words, like it was wrote by a Citroen employee. Can someone take a look at this? Thanks 81.137.240.118 ( talk) 10:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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Article uses the phrase last Real Citroën without any further explanation. Is this a universally understood concept? Wikipedia usually involves links to elaborate. Perhaps a separate Wikipedia page can explain Real Citroën. Is it just the inevitable result of badge engineering, like last Real Buick (before GM took over)? PLawrence99cx ( talk) 01:36, 25 June 2015 (UTC)