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I highly recommend this page get locked for the next few months. This kind of vandalism will occur repeatedly until the situation surrounding GameStop ($GME) resolves. TranceaddicT ( talk) 21:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not too familiar with Wikipedia's rules on locking things.
but it's probably going to be prudent to lock the article from editing for the next while. Until what's going on with gamestop blows over. Just think it would save a lot of work, possibly preventing an absurd amount of vandalism, from both sides of the 'fight'. 75.168.21.203 ( talk) 03:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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Citadel is a known hedgefund which deals in naked shorts sellings of stocks. Citadel knows this is illegal but they do not care. They enjoy engaging in fraudulent activities to line their own pockets and bankrupt companies and make thousands of people jobless. 80.0.159.46 ( talk) 13:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Definitly needs some parts about the 'supposed' *wink wink* illegal market manipulation during the AMC squeeze, such as naked shorting, FTD manipulation, FUD spreading in social media and news and at least some semi-illegal, shady moves like rerouting order flow through dark pools to fake selling pressure. ApeGladiator ( talk) 15:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
This is straight up lies, pr talk from Citadel to dupe unsuspecting customers, backed by an article clearly pushed by PFOF brokers too muddy the waters of "facts". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sek3000 ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose that the section called "Citadel Securities" be split off into a separate page also called "Citadel Securities" for the following reasons:
I have already created a draft of "Citadel Securities" in my userspace, found at User:Amandaatcitadel/Citadel Securities, which is identical to the current "Citadel Securities" section, except that I added an Infobox, a lead section with reliable sources, an External links section, and the correction of the founding date to 2002. I am notifying JBchrch who recently helped me with Ken Griffin's page. If there is anything else you need, please let me know. Amandaatcitadel ( talk) 14:42, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
*Oppose. We generally do not spin off the securities division of big financial groups into separate articles: see
Primary dealers § Current primary dealers with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for a list of prominent examples. The applicable policy here is
WP:PAGEDECIDE whose criteria, in my opinion, call for keeping everything in one article. However, I do concede that treating Citadel Securities as a sub-topic of Citadel "The Fund" is sub-optimal, so what I would suggest is to rebrand the article as "Citadel", i.e. a "financial group" comprising both an asset management arm and a market making/securities arm.
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the founder of Citadel Securities and its related $35bn hedge fund Citadel. The article then spends a lot of time explaining the evolving relationship between Citadel LLC, Citadel Securities and Ken Griffin. The FT and WSJ articles you linked also associate Citadel LLC and Citadel Securities (FT: "group", WSJ: "It was founded in 2002 by billionaire Ken Griffin, who also leads hedge fund Citadel LLC"). I also remember last year's House hearing, where Ken Griffin was called to testify as "Founder and CEO of Citadel and Founder and Principal Shareholder of Citadel Securities" [1]. I will admit that I'm seeing in the reliable sources (I've scanned FT, WSJ and Bloomberg) a tendency to address Citadel LLC and Citadel Securities separately and not as a monolithic group of companies (as opposed to UBS AG and UBS Securities for instance). I am open to changing my !vote if you can provide some reliable secondary sources that would address in more detail how the separation between the two companies and, specifically, to what extent Ken Griffin exercises (or doesn't exercise) a form of common control over the two companies. JBchrch talk 16:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I have a few requests to update and more properly organize the Citadel article.
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Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 16:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I have a few updates and corrections I hope can be implemented on the Citadel LLC page.
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Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 14:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. Citadel's article is in need of some updating, as follows:
In the Intro section, please:
In the Activities section, in the Citadel sub-section (the first sub-section) please update the following:
In the Employees sub-section of Corporate Affairs, please make the following changes:
References
Dream
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I am also pinging Castncoot who recently edited the page. Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 22:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. Please add the following two subjects as separate paragraphs to the end of the "Employees" sub-section of the "Corporate affairs" section:
References
Thanks so much, Cduffymul ( talk) 12:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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I highly recommend this page get locked for the next few months. This kind of vandalism will occur repeatedly until the situation surrounding GameStop ($GME) resolves. TranceaddicT ( talk) 21:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not too familiar with Wikipedia's rules on locking things.
but it's probably going to be prudent to lock the article from editing for the next while. Until what's going on with gamestop blows over. Just think it would save a lot of work, possibly preventing an absurd amount of vandalism, from both sides of the 'fight'. 75.168.21.203 ( talk) 03:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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Citadel is a known hedgefund which deals in naked shorts sellings of stocks. Citadel knows this is illegal but they do not care. They enjoy engaging in fraudulent activities to line their own pockets and bankrupt companies and make thousands of people jobless. 80.0.159.46 ( talk) 13:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Definitly needs some parts about the 'supposed' *wink wink* illegal market manipulation during the AMC squeeze, such as naked shorting, FTD manipulation, FUD spreading in social media and news and at least some semi-illegal, shady moves like rerouting order flow through dark pools to fake selling pressure. ApeGladiator ( talk) 15:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
This is straight up lies, pr talk from Citadel to dupe unsuspecting customers, backed by an article clearly pushed by PFOF brokers too muddy the waters of "facts". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sek3000 ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose that the section called "Citadel Securities" be split off into a separate page also called "Citadel Securities" for the following reasons:
I have already created a draft of "Citadel Securities" in my userspace, found at User:Amandaatcitadel/Citadel Securities, which is identical to the current "Citadel Securities" section, except that I added an Infobox, a lead section with reliable sources, an External links section, and the correction of the founding date to 2002. I am notifying JBchrch who recently helped me with Ken Griffin's page. If there is anything else you need, please let me know. Amandaatcitadel ( talk) 14:42, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
*Oppose. We generally do not spin off the securities division of big financial groups into separate articles: see
Primary dealers § Current primary dealers with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for a list of prominent examples. The applicable policy here is
WP:PAGEDECIDE whose criteria, in my opinion, call for keeping everything in one article. However, I do concede that treating Citadel Securities as a sub-topic of Citadel "The Fund" is sub-optimal, so what I would suggest is to rebrand the article as "Citadel", i.e. a "financial group" comprising both an asset management arm and a market making/securities arm.
JBchrch
talk
14:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
the founder of Citadel Securities and its related $35bn hedge fund Citadel. The article then spends a lot of time explaining the evolving relationship between Citadel LLC, Citadel Securities and Ken Griffin. The FT and WSJ articles you linked also associate Citadel LLC and Citadel Securities (FT: "group", WSJ: "It was founded in 2002 by billionaire Ken Griffin, who also leads hedge fund Citadel LLC"). I also remember last year's House hearing, where Ken Griffin was called to testify as "Founder and CEO of Citadel and Founder and Principal Shareholder of Citadel Securities" [1]. I will admit that I'm seeing in the reliable sources (I've scanned FT, WSJ and Bloomberg) a tendency to address Citadel LLC and Citadel Securities separately and not as a monolithic group of companies (as opposed to UBS AG and UBS Securities for instance). I am open to changing my !vote if you can provide some reliable secondary sources that would address in more detail how the separation between the two companies and, specifically, to what extent Ken Griffin exercises (or doesn't exercise) a form of common control over the two companies. JBchrch talk 16:10, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello. I have a few requests to update and more properly organize the Citadel article.
References
Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 16:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
![]() | Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. |
Hello. I have a few updates and corrections I hope can be implemented on the Citadel LLC page.
References
Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 14:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
![]() | Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. |
Hello. Citadel's article is in need of some updating, as follows:
In the Intro section, please:
In the Activities section, in the Citadel sub-section (the first sub-section) please update the following:
In the Employees sub-section of Corporate Affairs, please make the following changes:
References
Dream
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I am also pinging Castncoot who recently edited the page. Thanks so much. Cduffymul ( talk) 22:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. |
Hello. Please add the following two subjects as separate paragraphs to the end of the "Employees" sub-section of the "Corporate affairs" section:
References
Thanks so much, Cduffymul ( talk) 12:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)