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However, the code on the page linked to the Wikinfo article Truk, which is a redirect to Chuuk, which is a mirror copy of WP's Chuuk.
There is a Wikinfo article Truk Lagoon, but it is a mirror copy of this article. In other works, there are no sources cited for this article. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 01:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this:
"...almost fifty miles long by thirty miles wide surrounded by a protective reef, with an area of 3130 km²
[1]
(considerably less according to other sources
[2])."
The first article linked doesn’t seem to say anything about Truk’s size or area, in square miles or km².
The second gives the area as 823 sq ml, which is not “considerably smaller than 3130 km², it’s about the same.
I’ve re-written the sentence, using the "chuuk89" document as the main reference.
Moonraker12 (
talk)
15:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
PS: I've fixed up the reference section; I'm not sure what was wrong with it, but it wasn't showing. Moonraker12 ( talk) 15:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
So what country owns or occupies Truck now?
Truk/Chuuk forms part of the Federated States of Micronesia. -- Legis ( talk - contribs) 12:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The map image is North up, but the satellite image is North down. I think the satellite image should be rotated 180 degrees for consistency. I don't know how to fix that. RickD88 ( talk) 19:13, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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The following content was relocated to Talk, due to Undue emphasis. It could serve as the groundwork for a page on its subject, but is in effect unduly specific biographical/commercial content as written and included in the Chuuk Lagoon article:
A condensed, less biographcy-centric passage focusing on the diving and/or establishment of the national monument may be restored, suitably reworked and concise. Yours, Wikiuser100 ( talk) 11:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
References
According to Mark Lardas & Adam Tooby's Truk 1944-45: The Destruction of Japan's Central Pacific Bastion (Osprey, 2021), the claim that Truk was heavily fortified was fantasy based on a lack of actual information:
In the absence of real information, the Australian, US, and British intelligence services had only their imaginations to guide them: and their imaginations ran wild. Truk was seen as a heavily fortified Japanese outpost. They called it "Japan's Pearl Harbor" as if it were as large and developed as the US Pacific Fleet's base at Oahu. They also called it "The Gibraltar of the Pacific," conjuring images of vast defensive works. Allied intelligence officers knew the Japanese had had over 25 years to fortify Truk. They knew what they could have done in that amount of time, and expected no less from them, especially since the Japanese repeatedly disregarded international treaties during that time period. Perhaps Truk's defenses were on the scale of Fort Drum in Manila Bay? They had to be extensive, especially given Truk's strategic importance to Japan.
However, the reality was somewhat different. (...)
The lack of fortifications was less due to Japan's regard for international law than to Japan's economic limitations. It could not afford both a large navy and extensive naval fortifications. It opted to build up its naval forces, neglecting fixed defenses. (pp. 4-5)
I know Wikipedia encourages us to "edit boldly," but in this case I'm sure there are dozens—possibly hundreds—of editors who have more knowledge of the Pacific Theater than I have. So I'll leave it to them. ScarletPlanet ( talk) 23:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Nobody took up my offer, so I finally did it myself. ScarletPlanet ( talk) 00:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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The article had the following notice:
Adapted from the article Lagoon Truk Lagoon, from Wikinfo, licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License.
However, the code on the page linked to the Wikinfo article Truk, which is a redirect to Chuuk, which is a mirror copy of WP's Chuuk.
There is a Wikinfo article Truk Lagoon, but it is a mirror copy of this article. In other works, there are no sources cited for this article. -- Donald Albury( Talk) 01:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I've removed this:
"...almost fifty miles long by thirty miles wide surrounded by a protective reef, with an area of 3130 km²
[1]
(considerably less according to other sources
[2])."
The first article linked doesn’t seem to say anything about Truk’s size or area, in square miles or km².
The second gives the area as 823 sq ml, which is not “considerably smaller than 3130 km², it’s about the same.
I’ve re-written the sentence, using the "chuuk89" document as the main reference.
Moonraker12 (
talk)
15:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
PS: I've fixed up the reference section; I'm not sure what was wrong with it, but it wasn't showing. Moonraker12 ( talk) 15:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
So what country owns or occupies Truck now?
Truk/Chuuk forms part of the Federated States of Micronesia. -- Legis ( talk - contribs) 12:23, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The map image is North up, but the satellite image is North down. I think the satellite image should be rotated 180 degrees for consistency. I don't know how to fix that. RickD88 ( talk) 19:13, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
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The following content was relocated to Talk, due to Undue emphasis. It could serve as the groundwork for a page on its subject, but is in effect unduly specific biographical/commercial content as written and included in the Chuuk Lagoon article:
A condensed, less biographcy-centric passage focusing on the diving and/or establishment of the national monument may be restored, suitably reworked and concise. Yours, Wikiuser100 ( talk) 11:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
References
According to Mark Lardas & Adam Tooby's Truk 1944-45: The Destruction of Japan's Central Pacific Bastion (Osprey, 2021), the claim that Truk was heavily fortified was fantasy based on a lack of actual information:
In the absence of real information, the Australian, US, and British intelligence services had only their imaginations to guide them: and their imaginations ran wild. Truk was seen as a heavily fortified Japanese outpost. They called it "Japan's Pearl Harbor" as if it were as large and developed as the US Pacific Fleet's base at Oahu. They also called it "The Gibraltar of the Pacific," conjuring images of vast defensive works. Allied intelligence officers knew the Japanese had had over 25 years to fortify Truk. They knew what they could have done in that amount of time, and expected no less from them, especially since the Japanese repeatedly disregarded international treaties during that time period. Perhaps Truk's defenses were on the scale of Fort Drum in Manila Bay? They had to be extensive, especially given Truk's strategic importance to Japan.
However, the reality was somewhat different. (...)
The lack of fortifications was less due to Japan's regard for international law than to Japan's economic limitations. It could not afford both a large navy and extensive naval fortifications. It opted to build up its naval forces, neglecting fixed defenses. (pp. 4-5)
I know Wikipedia encourages us to "edit boldly," but in this case I'm sure there are dozens—possibly hundreds—of editors who have more knowledge of the Pacific Theater than I have. So I'll leave it to them. ScarletPlanet ( talk) 23:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Nobody took up my offer, so I finally did it myself. ScarletPlanet ( talk) 00:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)