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A few questions
José Luis Díez was attempting to break the blockade; which side was she working for at the time?
Can you define or explain "Miranda’s Law"?
She had 5x120mm; how were they laid out? 5x1, I presume, but...; if so, just add a "(5x1)"?
What caliber were her machineguns, & how were they laid out?
If you've got access to the cited source, or you can find the information elsewhere, can you add how many depth charges she carried (if it's mentioned)? (I'd add it to the original Spanish articles, too. And if you've got that information for any other destroyer, add it to their pages, too, while your at it.)
José Luis Díez was in republican side... (Republican side, have got two diferents territories without comunication by land, North, and south-east, when north down, nationalist blockade the strait to avoid the republican vessel, return to his base in Cartagena)
Did the Spanish Navy have a system for naming their destroyers?
Spanish ships, dont use like HMS (GB), USS (US), ARA (Arg), or SMS (German Empire)... SPS is used for US Navy for name spanish ships, but not is used in spain.
the pennants numbers; since final 1950s, first 1960s, spain use NATO systems (some churrucas, was renumered D-10s and D20s (D-11, D-12..) for first serie (7 first ships)) and D-20s (D21, D22...) for the second serie (se second 7).
Submarines: or olny numeral(A-3, B1 to B6, C2 to C6, D1 to D3 and
G7, or winds, or see mammals (like Narval) or the 4 spanish pioners in submarines (Cosme Garcia,
Monturiol,
Peral and Garcia de los Reyes, and in the civil war, two italians submarines sold by Mussolini, takes the name of two leaders of Coup d'état, death in first moments...
I've often wondered why we don't have different articles for the Republican and Nationalist factions, they would be more useful than the ones on the political systems they generated, in this context. But in their absence a link to the page that does at least discuss them is better than none. And as this is the English wikipedia Nationalists is more appropriate than Nacionales, or Republicanas, and these are the terms used in our articles on the period, such as the
Spanish Civil War.
Benea (
talk)
00:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I do see your point & I don't entirely disagree. I prefer a redlink to encourage the creation of material, & the use of the correct local term with an appropriate translation attached.
TREKphilerhit me ♠ 00:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)reply
In Spain, this is a Delicate theme... I usually use Guvernametal an insurrectionists or coup participants
Usually used Republicanos (Republicans) and Nacionales (nationals)...
But the people that is to favor Franco (they even exist), Say Nacionales (nationals) and Rojos (Reds)...
Spanish article over Civil War, ALWAIS is protected.
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A few questions
José Luis Díez was attempting to break the blockade; which side was she working for at the time?
Can you define or explain "Miranda’s Law"?
She had 5x120mm; how were they laid out? 5x1, I presume, but...; if so, just add a "(5x1)"?
What caliber were her machineguns, & how were they laid out?
If you've got access to the cited source, or you can find the information elsewhere, can you add how many depth charges she carried (if it's mentioned)? (I'd add it to the original Spanish articles, too. And if you've got that information for any other destroyer, add it to their pages, too, while your at it.)
José Luis Díez was in republican side... (Republican side, have got two diferents territories without comunication by land, North, and south-east, when north down, nationalist blockade the strait to avoid the republican vessel, return to his base in Cartagena)
Did the Spanish Navy have a system for naming their destroyers?
Spanish ships, dont use like HMS (GB), USS (US), ARA (Arg), or SMS (German Empire)... SPS is used for US Navy for name spanish ships, but not is used in spain.
the pennants numbers; since final 1950s, first 1960s, spain use NATO systems (some churrucas, was renumered D-10s and D20s (D-11, D-12..) for first serie (7 first ships)) and D-20s (D21, D22...) for the second serie (se second 7).
Submarines: or olny numeral(A-3, B1 to B6, C2 to C6, D1 to D3 and
G7, or winds, or see mammals (like Narval) or the 4 spanish pioners in submarines (Cosme Garcia,
Monturiol,
Peral and Garcia de los Reyes, and in the civil war, two italians submarines sold by Mussolini, takes the name of two leaders of Coup d'état, death in first moments...
I've often wondered why we don't have different articles for the Republican and Nationalist factions, they would be more useful than the ones on the political systems they generated, in this context. But in their absence a link to the page that does at least discuss them is better than none. And as this is the English wikipedia Nationalists is more appropriate than Nacionales, or Republicanas, and these are the terms used in our articles on the period, such as the
Spanish Civil War.
Benea (
talk)
00:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I do see your point & I don't entirely disagree. I prefer a redlink to encourage the creation of material, & the use of the correct local term with an appropriate translation attached.
TREKphilerhit me ♠ 00:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)reply
In Spain, this is a Delicate theme... I usually use Guvernametal an insurrectionists or coup participants
Usually used Republicanos (Republicans) and Nacionales (nationals)...
But the people that is to favor Franco (they even exist), Say Nacionales (nationals) and Rojos (Reds)...
Spanish article over Civil War, ALWAIS is protected.