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Seems like the article lacks notability. The only sources that mention it are A) a tourist guidebook which lists it among many other, and B) the website of the municipality of Kastoria, which again lists it among many others. Kastoria has over 72 Byzantine churches, I'm wondering why this one was created (though I can guess why). I have made some quality control edits, as the article was rather poorly written, but unless significant coverage in secondary sources is provided, I will send it for deletion.
Athenean (
talk) 01:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Bah, it's an interesting fact, since it's the last built (out of 72) before the Ottoman Empire: btw it seems like only 54 are left. --
Sulmues (
talk) 14:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
I created the article just yesterday so before assuming bad faith Athenean should wait for the article's expansion. Btw I changed Greek Orthodox to Eastern Orthodox since that concept didn't even exist at that time.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 14:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Actually most sources (all apart from 1) say Athanisus of Kastoria. Athanasius of Mouzaki has zero hits. Moreover, after repeated disruption I would say that (demanding) wp:agf is not a good excuse.
Alexikoua (
talk) 14:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Actually there are 72 hits on google books for the Mouzaki variants.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 15:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
This
[1] is quite funny. Seems like an exercise in avoiding the use of the word "Greek", which apparently some people are highly allergic to. The church is property of the
Greek Orthodox Church, not some vaguely defined "Eastern Orthodox Church". Whether or not the various Orthodox Churches had differentiated at the time is irrelevant. There are numerous Byzantine churches in Greece, yet we say they are Greek Orthodox churches, not "eastern orthodox".
Athenean (
talk) 00:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Not sure why the wpsq tag is needed, as the church isn't and never was in albania.
Athenean (
talk) 04:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)reply
And
Ardenica Monastery was built by Andronikos Paleologos of the
Byzantine Empire, so if you would be so kind as to restore the WP:GR tag you removed, I would be much obliged. You can't have it both ways.
Athenean (
talk) 22:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Andronikos Paleologos was a Byzantine Emperor, thus completely unrelated to the WPGR tag, unless you're basing this on a hypothesis regarding his origin the irrational consequence of which would be a WP Armenia, WP Kurdistan etc.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 00:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)reply
The Paleologos dynasty was Greek, so I don't know where you come up with WP:ARMENIA and Kurdistan and whatnot. Moreover, ANYTHING to do with the Byzantine Empire falls within the scope of WP:GR. Have a nice day.
Athenean (
talk) 01:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)reply
St Alexander
It would be interesting to know what
Saint Alexander the article refers to --
Sulmues (
talk) 14:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
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Seems like the article lacks notability. The only sources that mention it are A) a tourist guidebook which lists it among many other, and B) the website of the municipality of Kastoria, which again lists it among many others. Kastoria has over 72 Byzantine churches, I'm wondering why this one was created (though I can guess why). I have made some quality control edits, as the article was rather poorly written, but unless significant coverage in secondary sources is provided, I will send it for deletion.
Athenean (
talk) 01:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Bah, it's an interesting fact, since it's the last built (out of 72) before the Ottoman Empire: btw it seems like only 54 are left. --
Sulmues (
talk) 14:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
I created the article just yesterday so before assuming bad faith Athenean should wait for the article's expansion. Btw I changed Greek Orthodox to Eastern Orthodox since that concept didn't even exist at that time.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 14:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Actually most sources (all apart from 1) say Athanisus of Kastoria. Athanasius of Mouzaki has zero hits. Moreover, after repeated disruption I would say that (demanding) wp:agf is not a good excuse.
Alexikoua (
talk) 14:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Actually there are 72 hits on google books for the Mouzaki variants.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 15:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply
This
[1] is quite funny. Seems like an exercise in avoiding the use of the word "Greek", which apparently some people are highly allergic to. The church is property of the
Greek Orthodox Church, not some vaguely defined "Eastern Orthodox Church". Whether or not the various Orthodox Churches had differentiated at the time is irrelevant. There are numerous Byzantine churches in Greece, yet we say they are Greek Orthodox churches, not "eastern orthodox".
Athenean (
talk) 00:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Not sure why the wpsq tag is needed, as the church isn't and never was in albania.
Athenean (
talk) 04:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)reply
And
Ardenica Monastery was built by Andronikos Paleologos of the
Byzantine Empire, so if you would be so kind as to restore the WP:GR tag you removed, I would be much obliged. You can't have it both ways.
Athenean (
talk) 22:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Andronikos Paleologos was a Byzantine Emperor, thus completely unrelated to the WPGR tag, unless you're basing this on a hypothesis regarding his origin the irrational consequence of which would be a WP Armenia, WP Kurdistan etc.--
— ZjarriRrethues —talk 00:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)reply
The Paleologos dynasty was Greek, so I don't know where you come up with WP:ARMENIA and Kurdistan and whatnot. Moreover, ANYTHING to do with the Byzantine Empire falls within the scope of WP:GR. Have a nice day.
Athenean (
talk) 01:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)reply
St Alexander
It would be interesting to know what
Saint Alexander the article refers to --
Sulmues (
talk) 14:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)reply