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What do you call it when someone assumes that older things are better? Does that fallacy have a name of its own? I ask only because it seems to be more common than the subject of this article but that is just a guess on my part. Boris B 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Does this page even belong on Wikipedia? The only person cited in the article who uses the term is C.S. Lewis, both times from the same book, so it doesn't strike me as having particular scholarly or cultural currency. The other quotation does not use the term, is not even strictly the same idea, and links to two articles which do not exist. Can anyone find more sources for this topic? If not, this strikes me more as C.S. Lewis fandom that doesn't belong on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.65.164 ( talk) 05:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Why does recency bias redirect to this article? Recency bias is very different from the description of chronological snobbery given in this article. Recency bias is a cognitive bias in which people tend to overweight the importance of recent events. Here is a much better description of recency bias than what is contained in this article. -- JHP ( talk) 23:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I've seen this idea referred to as the "Your Ancestors Were Dummies" theory, usually in essays debunking crackpot archaeology. Perhaps the two concepts could be included in the one article? Rhialto ( talk) 12:34, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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I wonder if pervasive pessimism about the future should also be analysed as a bias in the vein of chronological snobbery and presentism. Literally speaking, after all, presentism is a bias towards the present, and that can include the belief that the present is not only better than the past, but also better than the future, and that the people of the present are superior to either. Idiocracy-style cultural pessimism that warns that in the future people will inevitably turn more and more stupid (which is often combined with some nasty ageist, classist, racist, ableist and eugenic thought) is typical of this tendency. This means that presentism can cover not only Whig history, but also "decadence"/"decay"-style narratives where everything is getting worse and past progress is being squandered ("young people these days, I fear for the future"). Literally speaking, in presentism the "Golden Age" must be the present, but more usually it is the period when one has grown up (childhood/youth; i. e., temporal nostalgia, and often refusal to acknowledge that things change and it's not all negative). This is evidently different from decadence narratives that place the Golden Age in some distant or vaguely circumscribed past that the subject never personally experienced. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 16:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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What do you call it when someone assumes that older things are better? Does that fallacy have a name of its own? I ask only because it seems to be more common than the subject of this article but that is just a guess on my part. Boris B 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Does this page even belong on Wikipedia? The only person cited in the article who uses the term is C.S. Lewis, both times from the same book, so it doesn't strike me as having particular scholarly or cultural currency. The other quotation does not use the term, is not even strictly the same idea, and links to two articles which do not exist. Can anyone find more sources for this topic? If not, this strikes me more as C.S. Lewis fandom that doesn't belong on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.65.164 ( talk) 05:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Why does recency bias redirect to this article? Recency bias is very different from the description of chronological snobbery given in this article. Recency bias is a cognitive bias in which people tend to overweight the importance of recent events. Here is a much better description of recency bias than what is contained in this article. -- JHP ( talk) 23:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I've seen this idea referred to as the "Your Ancestors Were Dummies" theory, usually in essays debunking crackpot archaeology. Perhaps the two concepts could be included in the one article? Rhialto ( talk) 12:34, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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I wonder if pervasive pessimism about the future should also be analysed as a bias in the vein of chronological snobbery and presentism. Literally speaking, after all, presentism is a bias towards the present, and that can include the belief that the present is not only better than the past, but also better than the future, and that the people of the present are superior to either. Idiocracy-style cultural pessimism that warns that in the future people will inevitably turn more and more stupid (which is often combined with some nasty ageist, classist, racist, ableist and eugenic thought) is typical of this tendency. This means that presentism can cover not only Whig history, but also "decadence"/"decay"-style narratives where everything is getting worse and past progress is being squandered ("young people these days, I fear for the future"). Literally speaking, in presentism the "Golden Age" must be the present, but more usually it is the period when one has grown up (childhood/youth; i. e., temporal nostalgia, and often refusal to acknowledge that things change and it's not all negative). This is evidently different from decadence narratives that place the Golden Age in some distant or vaguely circumscribed past that the subject never personally experienced. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 16:41, 6 January 2017 (UTC)