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At the time I was participating in a couple of online forums and was wondering if it was worth noting that the manifesto reported by some media outlets [1] was in fact an edited version with several glaring anomalies uploaded onto pastebin for pranks, by certified idiots [2]. It's even fair to say that people looking to read this so-called manifesto may come across the edited copy.
Is it relevant? 2A02:C7F:A006:2300:4C79:7BEA:7884:FD9D ( talk) 09:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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Given that the article is titled "Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt", and that no one else is believed to be responsible, and since there's no BLP issue with making a direct accusation, I think it's inappropriate to phrase the article as if Dorner was merely a suspect. It's not as if there's an alternate theory of the crime. So I made a some minor changes to assume that Dorner was the person responsible, and also to simplify the grammar. [2] Felsic2 ( talk) 05:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
While no universal definition of terrorism is established, the Academic Consensus Definition is considered the gold standard. No international definition has been ratified but neither the ACD nor US federal law (US code 113B § 2331) describe terrorism in a way that is comparable to Dorner's actions. While legal ambiguity in this is used typically so that political leadership can denounce opposition of all sorts as terrorism, the standard maintained in the US plainly does not apply here. Ergo, this incident is incorrectly categorized as domestic terrorism, even if certain emotionally laden officers would have told media otherwise at the time. I would like this to be reviewed, but absent any further comment I will go ahead and make the change in several days in keeping with accuracy on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.227.7 ( talk) 03:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
This batch of edits were recently made by a user at 24.19.54.27. I've had to revert the bulk of these changes for a number of reasons. Most of the issues centered on tone, POV, grammar, phrasing, reading comp issues, and so forth.
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There were probably other changes I reverted as well, but the point is, the edits were fraught with problems. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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You are whitewashing facts. Maybe you should include details about his life and career as a police officer which led to his writing of the manifesto and war against the lapd. 207.144.144.240 ( talk) 23:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I was wondering if there was a better convention than 'Gunman' for the heading of the section on Dorner's background. For example, the Wikipedia article on the Columbine Massacre uses 'Background', alternatively Ted Kaczynski's article is more biographical and has a header, very similar in content to the one on Dorner, which has 'Early Life' as the header. The 2017 Las Vegas Shooting article also uses 'Background'. I think 'Background' would be most appropriate and also more consistent with similar articles.
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At the time I was participating in a couple of online forums and was wondering if it was worth noting that the manifesto reported by some media outlets [1] was in fact an edited version with several glaring anomalies uploaded onto pastebin for pranks, by certified idiots [2]. It's even fair to say that people looking to read this so-called manifesto may come across the edited copy.
Is it relevant? 2A02:C7F:A006:2300:4C79:7BEA:7884:FD9D ( talk) 09:38, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
References
Given that the article is titled "Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt", and that no one else is believed to be responsible, and since there's no BLP issue with making a direct accusation, I think it's inappropriate to phrase the article as if Dorner was merely a suspect. It's not as if there's an alternate theory of the crime. So I made a some minor changes to assume that Dorner was the person responsible, and also to simplify the grammar. [2] Felsic2 ( talk) 05:31, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
While no universal definition of terrorism is established, the Academic Consensus Definition is considered the gold standard. No international definition has been ratified but neither the ACD nor US federal law (US code 113B § 2331) describe terrorism in a way that is comparable to Dorner's actions. While legal ambiguity in this is used typically so that political leadership can denounce opposition of all sorts as terrorism, the standard maintained in the US plainly does not apply here. Ergo, this incident is incorrectly categorized as domestic terrorism, even if certain emotionally laden officers would have told media otherwise at the time. I would like this to be reviewed, but absent any further comment I will go ahead and make the change in several days in keeping with accuracy on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.93.227.7 ( talk) 03:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
This batch of edits were recently made by a user at 24.19.54.27. I've had to revert the bulk of these changes for a number of reasons. Most of the issues centered on tone, POV, grammar, phrasing, reading comp issues, and so forth.
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There were probably other changes I reverted as well, but the point is, the edits were fraught with problems. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:26, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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You are whitewashing facts. Maybe you should include details about his life and career as a police officer which led to his writing of the manifesto and war against the lapd. 207.144.144.240 ( talk) 23:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I was wondering if there was a better convention than 'Gunman' for the heading of the section on Dorner's background. For example, the Wikipedia article on the Columbine Massacre uses 'Background', alternatively Ted Kaczynski's article is more biographical and has a header, very similar in content to the one on Dorner, which has 'Early Life' as the header. The 2017 Las Vegas Shooting article also uses 'Background'. I think 'Background' would be most appropriate and also more consistent with similar articles.
P6124088482 ( talk) 18:54, 12 June 2020 (UTC)