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The deletion debate Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Clayton referred to an article which bears no resemblance to this article. This article should NOT be deleted based on that earlier debate. Jon513 ( talk) 19:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I've tried to draw in the point about transfer to the General List, and the implications but the transfer needs cited. The RN employment regulations are in a restricted handbook, so not easily referencable and anything that would have been public domain in the 70's would be ephemera.
Do we have any indication of when he attended Staff course, presumably at Greenwich based on his promotion dates unless he did the sideways walking one at Bracknell, and the HCSC, which again looking at promotion dates he probably did at Camberley.
Do we have any indication of any command appointments? PCE would have allowed him a ship command or a squadron command, he must have done one or other. If he stayed typed to Lynx then that would have been at Portland if he crossed over it could have been at Culdrose, Gannet or Yeovilton. If someone can find that out then it's be useful to include his PCE, otherwise it's pretty incidental, almost every Lt Cdr in the warfare branch has done that.
There is a promotion date missing, by the time he got RAdm the Cdres rank was substantive, so he should have gone through that rank at some stage, plus the fact from the dates given he would have served as a Captain beyond the six year limit on half stars.
ALR ( talk) 11:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Wow guys you sure have been busy! You navy bodds have far surpassed my knowledge in this subject, please add it all to the article, it's gonna look great! ;) Ryan4314 ( talk) 17:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Does this help: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/2942212.stm Griffiths911 ( talk) 08:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hang on, something's not right here; This means he went from being a Captain on Chatham in 97, got promoted to the Commodore Naval Aviation (that's the new name for FONA Ken, says in the Navy News ref), got demoted to be the captain of Ocean, then skipped 2 ranks upto Rear Admiral just a year later!
Does this sound wrong, or does the navy change ur rank to fit ur role willy nilly? i.e. lets say for instance that captain is the highest rank that can command a ship (I don't actually know if that's the case), would they bump u down then so u could command it? Coz Ocean is quite a unique significant ship... Ryan4314 ( talk) 11:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Aghh! ARL has already mentioned the squadron leader bit. It's difficult concentrating at work on this stuff. LOL. Griffiths911 ( talk) 14:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Still start for now, though it is close to B. There is still a citation needed tag, the WP:LEAD is very small, and needs to be more representative of the article, and overall, it just seems a bit short and lacking full information. Any information on action between 1998 and 2003? Can the Falklands actions be expanded a little bit? If sources cannot be found, then I can accept that, but I don't think it would reach GA at this length, loathe as I am to character count. Regards. Woody ( talk) 21:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
With regards Admiral Claytons promotion from Captain to Rear Admiral. The first set of Captains appointed to OCEAN were all Commodores, but they were reverted to Local Acting Captain whilst in Command of OCEAN. Admiral Johnston - Burt was the first one to annotate the bridge list with Cdre (Local-Acting Captain), whilst he was in Command of OCEAN. Admral Clayton took over command of Ocean on the return home from Telic. It was Admiral Sir Adrian Johns who was in command of OCEAN throughout TELIC. Admiral Johns left OCEAN in SAHLALA, as the ship was homeward bound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.30.148.100 ( talk) 16:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
to answer your questions he was the commanding officer of H.M.S Beaver as a commander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc2803 ( talk • contribs) 09:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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The deletion debate Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Clayton referred to an article which bears no resemblance to this article. This article should NOT be deleted based on that earlier debate. Jon513 ( talk) 19:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I've tried to draw in the point about transfer to the General List, and the implications but the transfer needs cited. The RN employment regulations are in a restricted handbook, so not easily referencable and anything that would have been public domain in the 70's would be ephemera.
Do we have any indication of when he attended Staff course, presumably at Greenwich based on his promotion dates unless he did the sideways walking one at Bracknell, and the HCSC, which again looking at promotion dates he probably did at Camberley.
Do we have any indication of any command appointments? PCE would have allowed him a ship command or a squadron command, he must have done one or other. If he stayed typed to Lynx then that would have been at Portland if he crossed over it could have been at Culdrose, Gannet or Yeovilton. If someone can find that out then it's be useful to include his PCE, otherwise it's pretty incidental, almost every Lt Cdr in the warfare branch has done that.
There is a promotion date missing, by the time he got RAdm the Cdres rank was substantive, so he should have gone through that rank at some stage, plus the fact from the dates given he would have served as a Captain beyond the six year limit on half stars.
ALR ( talk) 11:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Wow guys you sure have been busy! You navy bodds have far surpassed my knowledge in this subject, please add it all to the article, it's gonna look great! ;) Ryan4314 ( talk) 17:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Does this help: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/2942212.stm Griffiths911 ( talk) 08:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Hang on, something's not right here; This means he went from being a Captain on Chatham in 97, got promoted to the Commodore Naval Aviation (that's the new name for FONA Ken, says in the Navy News ref), got demoted to be the captain of Ocean, then skipped 2 ranks upto Rear Admiral just a year later!
Does this sound wrong, or does the navy change ur rank to fit ur role willy nilly? i.e. lets say for instance that captain is the highest rank that can command a ship (I don't actually know if that's the case), would they bump u down then so u could command it? Coz Ocean is quite a unique significant ship... Ryan4314 ( talk) 11:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Aghh! ARL has already mentioned the squadron leader bit. It's difficult concentrating at work on this stuff. LOL. Griffiths911 ( talk) 14:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Still start for now, though it is close to B. There is still a citation needed tag, the WP:LEAD is very small, and needs to be more representative of the article, and overall, it just seems a bit short and lacking full information. Any information on action between 1998 and 2003? Can the Falklands actions be expanded a little bit? If sources cannot be found, then I can accept that, but I don't think it would reach GA at this length, loathe as I am to character count. Regards. Woody ( talk) 21:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
With regards Admiral Claytons promotion from Captain to Rear Admiral. The first set of Captains appointed to OCEAN were all Commodores, but they were reverted to Local Acting Captain whilst in Command of OCEAN. Admiral Johnston - Burt was the first one to annotate the bridge list with Cdre (Local-Acting Captain), whilst he was in Command of OCEAN. Admral Clayton took over command of Ocean on the return home from Telic. It was Admiral Sir Adrian Johns who was in command of OCEAN throughout TELIC. Admiral Johns left OCEAN in SAHLALA, as the ship was homeward bound. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.30.148.100 ( talk) 16:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
to answer your questions he was the commanding officer of H.M.S Beaver as a commander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jc2803 ( talk • contribs) 09:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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