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Haters of the muslim faith will fabricate the below statements of persecution done by the ottoman empire against christians while the truth is that the ottomans from the very beginning were very tolerant with christians that in some cases christians helped the ottomans take over territories to get rid of the tyranny the faced under the byzantine empire. in the later stages of the ottoman empire there were several injustices done against some ethnicities like the devrisme law and especially armenians in light of certain events of betrayal and conspiracy against the ottoman empire. until this date the ottoman empire in its golden day was the best empire to rule all religions in justice and relative harmony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.245.7.198 ( talk) 09:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
This article is a joke, right? It is pathetic propaganda at best. Good luck . Gabe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.195.170 ( talk) 02:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC) I second the statement above. Christians were called rayah or flock (cattle). Other examples, Christians were not permitted to ride a horse when meeting a muslim who is walking, nor to where specific colors. Muslim rulers were by fact feudal lords of the conquered nations and Christians second class citizens. Turks have heavily favored newly converted Muslims to devide indigenous populations. Some should take a look of the number of churches transformed to mosques. This article is clearly written as way to promote Ottoman empire as a benevolent empire but the facts and history of the Balkans tells another story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.149.12.132 ( talk) 00:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
This article seems to start of a little more like a paragraph I'd expect to be further down in the article. Perhaps providing a short summery before the main part of the article would help. ~ Falls End ( T, C) 16:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
This article states that "the Ottoman Empire was tolerant towards its non-Muslim subjects and it did not attempt to forcibly convert many of them to Islam." This whole thing strikes me like complete WP:OR, so I'd like that bit cited by independent verifiable and reliable sources please. I see there are {{ citation needed}} tags in the second heading (probably sitting there for ages). The article is currently tagged, and as a next step I'll move for WP:AfD. Niko Silver 23:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed the 'see also' from the sections. I do not see what they have to do with this article... Inquisition is about heresies among the Christian denominations; Witch-hunt was a mostly Catholic practice, related with paganism and affected certain individuals, not population groups. Mission (Christian) refers to colonianism of the New World, and in any case this article is not talking about Muslim missionaries (or anything similar) to justify the inclusion. I am not saying that the Christians were saint or did nothing to be blamed for, but i would like to see links for articles that at least have a mere connection with this one. e.g. a possible article 'State and Religion in the Holy Roman Empire' or 'Status of the Muslims in 11th century Spain'. Hectorian 16:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, OttomanReference, u are moving way too fast! i do not want to cause a revert war, thus i will say here with what i disagree, and what i consider bias and unsourced statements:
Okay... how about a paragraph or so, near the beginning, stating that the main religion (or however you want to put it) of the empire is Islam - since the page seems like it should be about the religions of the Ottoman Empire? It seems pretty far down the page before Islam itself is mentioned for the first time, as if it's assumed knowledge... -- Amorette 02:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The second paragraph of this article is in the complete wrong style, so I think it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcduggan ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
How very very bizarre. I clicked on Ottoman law hoping to see if there is an entry on the Ottoman Land Law of 1858, and found that it redirects to Religion in the Ottoman Empire? The laws of the Tanzimat had little to do with religion! LamaLoLeshLa ( talk) 18:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I would think it should go without saying that "Religion in the Ottoman Empire" is an inappopriate title for an article that does not discuss the Empire's main religion. Perhaps "Christianity and Judaism in the Ottoman Empire" is more appropriate? -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Religion in the Ottoman Empire →
Christianity and Judaism in the Ottoman Empire — Article discusses Christianity and Judaism but is explicitly not about Ottoman religion in general.
Mcorazao (
talk) 18:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Prior to the start of my ongoing overhaul, in one place, it stated "Voluntary conversion to Islam was greeted by the Ottoman authorities, accompanied by privileges." However, this is contradicted by "Regarding 'conversion accompanied by privileges'; a social group or millet such as 'Christian converted-Muslim rules' or 'Christian converted-Muslim privileges', which could be applied to a 'specific policy for conversion' did not exist." Which is it? Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the article it should have been called "Christianity in the Ottoman Empire"; and a seperate article written for "Judaism in the Ottoman Empire" Hugo999 ( talk) 12:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Really? This article is extremely bias, but may I ask what reference there is for this statement? If none is forthcoming I will delete that piece asap. thanks. Reaper7 ( talk) 19:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Eperoton, yes, when reliable sources disagree, we shouldn't take sides. That's exactly why this sentence needs to be removed. It contradicts a reliable primary source. Display name 99 ( talk) 03:49, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I think the current article is too largely focused on the golden age of the Ottoman Empire. It's important that it talk a little more about the missionaries, biblical archaeologists, and other busybodies who started poking around the empire in the mid and late 19th century. It certainly occurred and it would be good to have a base pointing out the main players, theaters, and—if any—notable successes or failures. — LlywelynII 03:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 17:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Haters of the muslim faith will fabricate the below statements of persecution done by the ottoman empire against christians while the truth is that the ottomans from the very beginning were very tolerant with christians that in some cases christians helped the ottomans take over territories to get rid of the tyranny the faced under the byzantine empire. in the later stages of the ottoman empire there were several injustices done against some ethnicities like the devrisme law and especially armenians in light of certain events of betrayal and conspiracy against the ottoman empire. until this date the ottoman empire in its golden day was the best empire to rule all religions in justice and relative harmony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.245.7.198 ( talk) 09:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
This article is a joke, right? It is pathetic propaganda at best. Good luck . Gabe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.195.170 ( talk) 02:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC) I second the statement above. Christians were called rayah or flock (cattle). Other examples, Christians were not permitted to ride a horse when meeting a muslim who is walking, nor to where specific colors. Muslim rulers were by fact feudal lords of the conquered nations and Christians second class citizens. Turks have heavily favored newly converted Muslims to devide indigenous populations. Some should take a look of the number of churches transformed to mosques. This article is clearly written as way to promote Ottoman empire as a benevolent empire but the facts and history of the Balkans tells another story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.149.12.132 ( talk) 00:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
This article seems to start of a little more like a paragraph I'd expect to be further down in the article. Perhaps providing a short summery before the main part of the article would help. ~ Falls End ( T, C) 16:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
This article states that "the Ottoman Empire was tolerant towards its non-Muslim subjects and it did not attempt to forcibly convert many of them to Islam." This whole thing strikes me like complete WP:OR, so I'd like that bit cited by independent verifiable and reliable sources please. I see there are {{ citation needed}} tags in the second heading (probably sitting there for ages). The article is currently tagged, and as a next step I'll move for WP:AfD. Niko Silver 23:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed the 'see also' from the sections. I do not see what they have to do with this article... Inquisition is about heresies among the Christian denominations; Witch-hunt was a mostly Catholic practice, related with paganism and affected certain individuals, not population groups. Mission (Christian) refers to colonianism of the New World, and in any case this article is not talking about Muslim missionaries (or anything similar) to justify the inclusion. I am not saying that the Christians were saint or did nothing to be blamed for, but i would like to see links for articles that at least have a mere connection with this one. e.g. a possible article 'State and Religion in the Holy Roman Empire' or 'Status of the Muslims in 11th century Spain'. Hectorian 16:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, OttomanReference, u are moving way too fast! i do not want to cause a revert war, thus i will say here with what i disagree, and what i consider bias and unsourced statements:
Okay... how about a paragraph or so, near the beginning, stating that the main religion (or however you want to put it) of the empire is Islam - since the page seems like it should be about the religions of the Ottoman Empire? It seems pretty far down the page before Islam itself is mentioned for the first time, as if it's assumed knowledge... -- Amorette 02:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The second paragraph of this article is in the complete wrong style, so I think it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcduggan ( talk • contribs) 22:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
How very very bizarre. I clicked on Ottoman law hoping to see if there is an entry on the Ottoman Land Law of 1858, and found that it redirects to Religion in the Ottoman Empire? The laws of the Tanzimat had little to do with religion! LamaLoLeshLa ( talk) 18:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I would think it should go without saying that "Religion in the Ottoman Empire" is an inappopriate title for an article that does not discuss the Empire's main religion. Perhaps "Christianity and Judaism in the Ottoman Empire" is more appropriate? -- Mcorazao ( talk) 19:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Religion in the Ottoman Empire →
Christianity and Judaism in the Ottoman Empire — Article discusses Christianity and Judaism but is explicitly not about Ottoman religion in general.
Mcorazao (
talk) 18:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Prior to the start of my ongoing overhaul, in one place, it stated "Voluntary conversion to Islam was greeted by the Ottoman authorities, accompanied by privileges." However, this is contradicted by "Regarding 'conversion accompanied by privileges'; a social group or millet such as 'Christian converted-Muslim rules' or 'Christian converted-Muslim privileges', which could be applied to a 'specific policy for conversion' did not exist." Which is it? Clarityfiend ( talk) 07:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the article it should have been called "Christianity in the Ottoman Empire"; and a seperate article written for "Judaism in the Ottoman Empire" Hugo999 ( talk) 12:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Really? This article is extremely bias, but may I ask what reference there is for this statement? If none is forthcoming I will delete that piece asap. thanks. Reaper7 ( talk) 19:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Eperoton, yes, when reliable sources disagree, we shouldn't take sides. That's exactly why this sentence needs to be removed. It contradicts a reliable primary source. Display name 99 ( talk) 03:49, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I think the current article is too largely focused on the golden age of the Ottoman Empire. It's important that it talk a little more about the missionaries, biblical archaeologists, and other busybodies who started poking around the empire in the mid and late 19th century. It certainly occurred and it would be good to have a base pointing out the main players, theaters, and—if any—notable successes or failures. — LlywelynII 03:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)