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This explains why we have seen persistent edits disrupting the page. And BTW the title of the book she mentions was fixed already. https://www.facebook.com/118912795028/videos/327784621995455 This is from Feb 17, 2021 and you would listen at about 6:10. Sgerbic ( talk) 02:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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In the subheading Views and Controversy, paragraph 6, the first occurrence of "advise" should be changed to "advice". 2603:7080:E743:2F00:C92F:25E9:7BEE:A6A3 ( talk) 11:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@ MjolnirPants: My removal of {{ Alternative medicine sidebar}} was reverted. Far from a prank, my rationale was WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, which notes "Every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox, so that the navigation is bidirectional. The use of navigation templates is neither required nor prohibited for any article." There is not a single biography in the sidebar, and I think the sidebar has strayed far from a well defined "series on Alternative Medicine" and become a bloated waste bin of mishmash that now ranges from Camel urine to Scientific racism to Chronic Lyme disease to COVID-19 misinformation (compare it to the more topically focused {{ Alternative medicine}}). The sidebar's sections on conspiracy theories seems particularly tangential, although I recognize that there is some overlap between proponents of alternative medicine and proponents of conspiracies. The template's focal article, Alternative medicine, mentions conspiracies only once, and vaccines/vaccinations only once. Of the 274 article hosting the sidebar, only 16 are biographies, and surprise surprise, they're almost all COVID-19 conspiracy theorists or anti-vaccination activists. I am not arguing that Northrup isn't a conspiracy theorist. I am not arguing she isn't anti-vaccine, nor that she is not a follower or promoter of Alternative medicine. I simply think it is logically misguided (contra to the sidebar's title, Northrup is not "part of a series") and aesthetically very tacky to slap this very large, and bloated sidebar on anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and even pro-vaccine, non-conspiratorial pracitioners of alternative medicine. Perhaps a new sidebar (tastefully constructed) for anti-vaxxers and/or conspiracy theorists is called for. --Animalparty! ( talk) 22:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
The use of navigation templates is neither required nor prohibited for any article." So it seems this is a matter of opinion, not any particular WP:PAG.
the point about her being anti-vax suggests that anti-vax and alternative medicine are equally suspectAnti-vaccination sentiments are a part of alternative medicine.
Do you think every biography in that category warrants this sidebar?Yes. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:11, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
A sidebar for the paranormal and other pseudoscience including alt med is warranted. Biographies and topics might need to be divided up, you don't have an argument with me. Create these sidebars, and make a series of them and I'll happily apply them, including the creator of homeopathy. Until that happens, this is what we have. Let me know when we have the Alt-med biographies. Sgerbic ( talk) 19:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Smaller, more focused templates are better than everything-plus-the-kitchen-sink templates that become dumping grounds rather than well curated series.I'd be fine with a "People in the anti-vaccination movement" sidebar, as well.
The article says:
"Northrup earned her Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) degree at Dartmouth University ..."
According to Wikipedia, "Dartmouth University is a defunct institution in New Hampshire which existed from 1817 to 1819."
Please edit the article to clarify. 76.130.95.131 ( talk) 13:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
A google search refers us to Wikipedia where Northrup's date of birth is clearly: Born: October 4, 1949 (age 72 years), Yarmouth, Maine, United States The absence of a d.o.b. on the main page is a bizarre and confusing anomaly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.66.239.12 ( talk) 15:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Northrup has joined the ranks of those who express support for the Russian invasion based on the (false) claim that Putin was secretly targeting bioweapons and child trafficking facilities in Ukraine. [1] 2604:2D80:6984:3800:0:0:0:8734 ( talk) 21:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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This explains why we have seen persistent edits disrupting the page. And BTW the title of the book she mentions was fixed already. https://www.facebook.com/118912795028/videos/327784621995455 This is from Feb 17, 2021 and you would listen at about 6:10. Sgerbic ( talk) 02:22, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
o_O
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Neonate –
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In the subheading Views and Controversy, paragraph 6, the first occurrence of "advise" should be changed to "advice". 2603:7080:E743:2F00:C92F:25E9:7BEE:A6A3 ( talk) 11:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
@ MjolnirPants: My removal of {{ Alternative medicine sidebar}} was reverted. Far from a prank, my rationale was WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, which notes "Every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox, so that the navigation is bidirectional. The use of navigation templates is neither required nor prohibited for any article." There is not a single biography in the sidebar, and I think the sidebar has strayed far from a well defined "series on Alternative Medicine" and become a bloated waste bin of mishmash that now ranges from Camel urine to Scientific racism to Chronic Lyme disease to COVID-19 misinformation (compare it to the more topically focused {{ Alternative medicine}}). The sidebar's sections on conspiracy theories seems particularly tangential, although I recognize that there is some overlap between proponents of alternative medicine and proponents of conspiracies. The template's focal article, Alternative medicine, mentions conspiracies only once, and vaccines/vaccinations only once. Of the 274 article hosting the sidebar, only 16 are biographies, and surprise surprise, they're almost all COVID-19 conspiracy theorists or anti-vaccination activists. I am not arguing that Northrup isn't a conspiracy theorist. I am not arguing she isn't anti-vaccine, nor that she is not a follower or promoter of Alternative medicine. I simply think it is logically misguided (contra to the sidebar's title, Northrup is not "part of a series") and aesthetically very tacky to slap this very large, and bloated sidebar on anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, and even pro-vaccine, non-conspiratorial pracitioners of alternative medicine. Perhaps a new sidebar (tastefully constructed) for anti-vaxxers and/or conspiracy theorists is called for. --Animalparty! ( talk) 22:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
The use of navigation templates is neither required nor prohibited for any article." So it seems this is a matter of opinion, not any particular WP:PAG.
the point about her being anti-vax suggests that anti-vax and alternative medicine are equally suspectAnti-vaccination sentiments are a part of alternative medicine.
Do you think every biography in that category warrants this sidebar?Yes. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:11, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
A sidebar for the paranormal and other pseudoscience including alt med is warranted. Biographies and topics might need to be divided up, you don't have an argument with me. Create these sidebars, and make a series of them and I'll happily apply them, including the creator of homeopathy. Until that happens, this is what we have. Let me know when we have the Alt-med biographies. Sgerbic ( talk) 19:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Smaller, more focused templates are better than everything-plus-the-kitchen-sink templates that become dumping grounds rather than well curated series.I'd be fine with a "People in the anti-vaccination movement" sidebar, as well.
The article says:
"Northrup earned her Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) degree at Dartmouth University ..."
According to Wikipedia, "Dartmouth University is a defunct institution in New Hampshire which existed from 1817 to 1819."
Please edit the article to clarify. 76.130.95.131 ( talk) 13:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
A google search refers us to Wikipedia where Northrup's date of birth is clearly: Born: October 4, 1949 (age 72 years), Yarmouth, Maine, United States The absence of a d.o.b. on the main page is a bizarre and confusing anomaly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.66.239.12 ( talk) 15:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Northrup has joined the ranks of those who express support for the Russian invasion based on the (false) claim that Putin was secretly targeting bioweapons and child trafficking facilities in Ukraine. [1] 2604:2D80:6984:3800:0:0:0:8734 ( talk) 21:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)