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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chris Lines/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 13:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Going to review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b ( MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a ( reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c ( OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a ( major aspects): b ( focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b ( appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Lead

Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Wikilink the seasons of Lines' clubs to their respective articles where applicable
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "and was a key first team player as the "Owls" won promotion to the Championship at the end of the 2011–12 campaign." - try not to use nicknames for the teams
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Bristol Rovers

  • "before graduating through the Bristol Rovers-backed Bristol Academy of Sport at South Gloucestershire and Stroud College." - the part about Lines going to South Gloucestershire and Stroud College needs to be verified with another source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "After two further substitute appearances in League Two," - needs verification
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "After three appearances in the 2006–07 campaign, he featured in six matches from March onwards," - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as the "Pirates" won promotion with a 3–1 victory over Shrewsbury Town at Wembley." - avoid using team nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He put in an "excellent" performance" - according to whom?
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as Rovers beat Premier League Fulham on penalties in the Third Round on 22 January, " - beat Premier League side Fulham
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He scored his first goal in competitive football on 29 December, heading in the first goal of a 3–0 home win" - repetition of "goal"
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He played 48 games in the 2008–09 season," - needs verifying with a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "In total he scored ten goals in 46 appearances in the 2009–10 campaign." - same issue as above
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He was sidelined for two weeks with a toe injury in February 2011," - needs to be reworded to pass WP:LIMITED
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "Lines had a seven-day trial period with Championship side Crystal Palace" - clarify that this trial saw Lines train with Crystal Palace
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "in the summer." - avoid using seasons per MOS:SEASON
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Sheffield Wednesday

  • "Lines joined League One club Sheffield Wednesday on a three-year contract for a £50,000 fee." - another source will be needed to go with the BBC Sport citation that mentions the contract was for three years since the former does not mention that fact
Done.---- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He went on to score four goals in 47 appearances in the 2011–12 campaign as the "Owls" secured promotion with a second-place finish," - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Also in the above sentence, the nickname of Sheffield Wednesday does not need to be mentioned
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He featured in 18 games for the "Dons"," - needs verifying with a reliable source and please do not use team nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Port Vale

  • "on a one-year deal in July 2013." - rewrite the text in bold so it is not too similar to the text in The Sentinel
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He went on to build an impressive partnership" - the word highlighted in bold is non-neutral
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "in midfield with Anthony Griffith; Griffith providing the tough-tackling and Lines providing the creative playmaking." - try not to begin the start of the following sentence like this
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He signed a new two-year contract in the summer." - writing out the seasons in discouraged per MOS:SEASON
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "being named on the Football League team of the week" - Team of the Week
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Return to Bristol Rovers

  • "the club had fallen out of the English Football League in his absence, but were top of the Conference Premier division" - not mentioned by BBC Sport
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "with a strike from 25-yards in a 1–0 victory" - use the convert template on the text highlighted in bold
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as he embarked on a run from deep before calmly tucking the ball beyond "Gills" goalkeeper Jonathan Bond." - please don't use club nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "he admitted to getting into vegetarianism" - becoming a vegetarian
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "and was subsequently given abuse on social media by some of the club's supporters." - abused by some of the club's supporters on social media.
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He ended the 2017–18 season with five goals in 47 appearances as Rovers posted a 13th-place finish in League One." - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "However he lost his first team place after Graham Coughlan replaced Clarke as manager in December." - what was the reason for the falling out?
I've added some detail.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "Lines ended his second spell with his boyhood club having made 348 appearances, scoring 34 goals and having achieved three promotions during his two spells at the club." - not mentioned by the two sources placed at the end of this portion of text
Done. Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Northampton Town

  • ""Cobblers" manager Keith Curle said that "I think his attributes will really help us"." - no using a club's nickname
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "the fifth promotion of Lines’ career." - not mentioned by BBC Sport
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Style of play

  • "He is considered to be a set-piece specialist." - considered by whom?
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Career statstics

  • The table header has a spelling error in "spperances" which should be spelt Apperances
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • The four notes accompanying the table all need to be verified by a reliable source
Done. Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

References

  • All the hyphens located in the spaces of the texts and the scores should be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • The author of Reference 18 Daniel Jones should be formatted as Jones, Daniel in the appropriate fields
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 37 "Rob Page says no excuses for Chris Lines after red card"" needs to have its archive url fixed because it links to an error page
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 43 is dead and will need to be archived or replaced to verify the information it supports
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 44 "Bristol Rovers 1-0 Cardiff City: Bluebirds booted out of EFL Cup by Chris Lines stunner at the Memorial Stadium" is missing the author
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 45 "Chelsea 3-2 Bristol Rovers: Michy Batshuayi scores twice as Blues reach EFL Cup third round" should include the author
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 57 "YOUR VIEW: Best player, best goal, best signing and more - Cobblers fans choose their award winners for 2019/20"" - no using all capital letters per MOS:ALLCAPS
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 59 "Chris hopes to get along the right Lines in loan spell" needs archiving
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 60 "Vale sign Sheffield Wednesday midfielder" is missing the date it was published
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • References 75, 76, 77, 78 and 79 should have an up-to-date access date and not an incorrect one of 1 January 2017
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Okay I have addressed those points. Thanks.-- Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
I've not tried pinging someone before but I'll give it a go now... @ MWright96: Echetus Xe 10:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ EchetusXe: Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 21:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah ( talk) 20:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Chris Lines playing for Bristol Rovers in April 2016
Chris Lines playing for Bristol Rovers in April 2016
  • ... that Chris Lines (pictured) has won five promotions during his professional football career? Source: "It is the fifth promotion of Lines' career" ( link)

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe ( talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC). reply

  • Newness requirement satisfied by Good Article promotion. Earwig doesn't show problems. Article generally well written and cited. The hook is short enough and supported by inline citations. Image is ok with public domain license. QPQ satisfied. The only reservation is the routine nature of the hook -- doesn't every elite player of a team sport receive multiple promotions before reaching the top level? This strikes me as exceptionally un-hooky. Can you come up with something better? Cbl62 ( talk) 18:37, 7 November 2020 (UTC) reply
No, five promotions is a lot. Neil Warnock has the record as a manager with eight promotions in 34 years. Rochdale A.F.C. have been promoted four times in their 113 year history so yeah, five for one player is a lot. Echetus Xe 19:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC) reply
So, I'll check off on this with my reservations about hookiness. That said, I do encourage you to come up with an alternative hook. Surely, there must be something more interesting to say about him than this. If you do wish to come up with an alt, ping me and I'll be happy to have a look. Cbl62 ( talk) 17:57, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply
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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Chris Lines/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 13:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Going to review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b ( MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a ( reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c ( OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a ( major aspects): b ( focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b ( appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Lead

Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Wikilink the seasons of Lines' clubs to their respective articles where applicable
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "and was a key first team player as the "Owls" won promotion to the Championship at the end of the 2011–12 campaign." - try not to use nicknames for the teams
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Bristol Rovers

  • "before graduating through the Bristol Rovers-backed Bristol Academy of Sport at South Gloucestershire and Stroud College." - the part about Lines going to South Gloucestershire and Stroud College needs to be verified with another source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "After two further substitute appearances in League Two," - needs verification
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "After three appearances in the 2006–07 campaign, he featured in six matches from March onwards," - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as the "Pirates" won promotion with a 3–1 victory over Shrewsbury Town at Wembley." - avoid using team nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He put in an "excellent" performance" - according to whom?
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as Rovers beat Premier League Fulham on penalties in the Third Round on 22 January, " - beat Premier League side Fulham
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He scored his first goal in competitive football on 29 December, heading in the first goal of a 3–0 home win" - repetition of "goal"
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He played 48 games in the 2008–09 season," - needs verifying with a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "In total he scored ten goals in 46 appearances in the 2009–10 campaign." - same issue as above
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He was sidelined for two weeks with a toe injury in February 2011," - needs to be reworded to pass WP:LIMITED
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "Lines had a seven-day trial period with Championship side Crystal Palace" - clarify that this trial saw Lines train with Crystal Palace
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "in the summer." - avoid using seasons per MOS:SEASON
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Sheffield Wednesday

  • "Lines joined League One club Sheffield Wednesday on a three-year contract for a £50,000 fee." - another source will be needed to go with the BBC Sport citation that mentions the contract was for three years since the former does not mention that fact
Done.---- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He went on to score four goals in 47 appearances in the 2011–12 campaign as the "Owls" secured promotion with a second-place finish," - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Also in the above sentence, the nickname of Sheffield Wednesday does not need to be mentioned
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He featured in 18 games for the "Dons"," - needs verifying with a reliable source and please do not use team nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Port Vale

  • "on a one-year deal in July 2013." - rewrite the text in bold so it is not too similar to the text in The Sentinel
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He went on to build an impressive partnership" - the word highlighted in bold is non-neutral
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "in midfield with Anthony Griffith; Griffith providing the tough-tackling and Lines providing the creative playmaking." - try not to begin the start of the following sentence like this
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He signed a new two-year contract in the summer." - writing out the seasons in discouraged per MOS:SEASON
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "being named on the Football League team of the week" - Team of the Week
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Return to Bristol Rovers

  • "the club had fallen out of the English Football League in his absence, but were top of the Conference Premier division" - not mentioned by BBC Sport
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "with a strike from 25-yards in a 1–0 victory" - use the convert template on the text highlighted in bold
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "as he embarked on a run from deep before calmly tucking the ball beyond "Gills" goalkeeper Jonathan Bond." - please don't use club nicknames
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "he admitted to getting into vegetarianism" - becoming a vegetarian
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "and was subsequently given abuse on social media by some of the club's supporters." - abused by some of the club's supporters on social media.
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "He ended the 2017–18 season with five goals in 47 appearances as Rovers posted a 13th-place finish in League One." - needs to be verified by a reliable source
Done.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "However he lost his first team place after Graham Coughlan replaced Clarke as manager in December." - what was the reason for the falling out?
I've added some detail.-- Echetus Xe 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "Lines ended his second spell with his boyhood club having made 348 appearances, scoring 34 goals and having achieved three promotions during his two spells at the club." - not mentioned by the two sources placed at the end of this portion of text
Done. Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Northampton Town

  • ""Cobblers" manager Keith Curle said that "I think his attributes will really help us"." - no using a club's nickname
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • "the fifth promotion of Lines’ career." - not mentioned by BBC Sport
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Style of play

  • "He is considered to be a set-piece specialist." - considered by whom?
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Career statstics

  • The table header has a spelling error in "spperances" which should be spelt Apperances
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • The four notes accompanying the table all need to be verified by a reliable source
Done. Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

References

  • All the hyphens located in the spaces of the texts and the scores should be replaced by en dashes (–) per MOS:DASH
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • The author of Reference 18 Daniel Jones should be formatted as Jones, Daniel in the appropriate fields
Done.-- Echetus Xe 16:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 37 "Rob Page says no excuses for Chris Lines after red card"" needs to have its archive url fixed because it links to an error page
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 43 is dead and will need to be archived or replaced to verify the information it supports
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:03, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 44 "Bristol Rovers 1-0 Cardiff City: Bluebirds booted out of EFL Cup by Chris Lines stunner at the Memorial Stadium" is missing the author
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 45 "Chelsea 3-2 Bristol Rovers: Michy Batshuayi scores twice as Blues reach EFL Cup third round" should include the author
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 57 "YOUR VIEW: Best player, best goal, best signing and more - Cobblers fans choose their award winners for 2019/20"" - no using all capital letters per MOS:ALLCAPS
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 59 "Chris hopes to get along the right Lines in loan spell" needs archiving
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Reference 60 "Vale sign Sheffield Wednesday midfielder" is missing the date it was published
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • References 75, 76, 77, 78 and 79 should have an up-to-date access date and not an incorrect one of 1 January 2017
Done.-- Echetus Xe 12:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Okay I have addressed those points. Thanks.-- Echetus Xe 16:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC) reply
I've not tried pinging someone before but I'll give it a go now... @ MWright96: Echetus Xe 10:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ EchetusXe: Now promoting to GA class MWright96 (talk) 21:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah ( talk) 20:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Chris Lines playing for Bristol Rovers in April 2016
Chris Lines playing for Bristol Rovers in April 2016
  • ... that Chris Lines (pictured) has won five promotions during his professional football career? Source: "It is the fifth promotion of Lines' career" ( link)

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe ( talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 7 November 2020 (UTC). reply

  • Newness requirement satisfied by Good Article promotion. Earwig doesn't show problems. Article generally well written and cited. The hook is short enough and supported by inline citations. Image is ok with public domain license. QPQ satisfied. The only reservation is the routine nature of the hook -- doesn't every elite player of a team sport receive multiple promotions before reaching the top level? This strikes me as exceptionally un-hooky. Can you come up with something better? Cbl62 ( talk) 18:37, 7 November 2020 (UTC) reply
No, five promotions is a lot. Neil Warnock has the record as a manager with eight promotions in 34 years. Rochdale A.F.C. have been promoted four times in their 113 year history so yeah, five for one player is a lot. Echetus Xe 19:55, 7 November 2020 (UTC) reply
So, I'll check off on this with my reservations about hookiness. That said, I do encourage you to come up with an alternative hook. Surely, there must be something more interesting to say about him than this. If you do wish to come up with an alt, ping me and I'll be happy to have a look. Cbl62 ( talk) 17:57, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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