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A factoid is something that isn't true, while a factlet is true. Don't change it back anymore.
The use of the nickname "Jesus" is extremely disrespectful and offensive to many people, therefore I have removed it from the Wikipedia page. Including it prominently at the top of the page as part of his name is a form of publicity, which wikipedia cannot endorse. Whether or not it should be mentioned later in the article is debatable. While I know that Ferguson is an atheist and there are many others like this, the least that a rational, logical person could do is respect the religious beliefs of others. Professional poker player Daniel Negreanu has also mentioned that he finds the nickname offensive.
Saying whether is it offensive or not is POV. Some may find it offensive however wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and facts which are rather important to the article should be added, even if it may offend people. If it does offend you then I suggest you speak to Chris and make him change his nickname, however the fact that his nickname is Jesus cannot be changed, whether it is liked or not.
As I was reading this article just now, I found it odd that his nickname wasn't mentioned, and came to the discussion page specifically because of that. Every time you see this guy on TV, he is referred to as Chris "Jesus" Ferguson. It has been exactly that way for almost a decade now, so I suggest that it should be mentioned in the body of the article. I mean, I am offended by Hitler, but I would not presume to make his article easier to swallow. Yes.. I just Godwined the Chris Fergusuon talk page. Deal with it. 74.182.8.21 ( talk) 14:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Chris Ferguson is sometimes used to refer to Christopher Ferguson, an astronaut who flew on STS-115. The fourth result in a Google search for "chris ferguson" links to the astronaut's biography page. Perhaps this article could use a disambig notice at the top. PeepP 18:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
2005, why did you remove this sentence: "He rarely speaks at the table, and adopts an identical, motionless pose in most situations where he could be "read"." ? In "Aces and Kings" [http://www.amazon.com/Aces-Kings-Million-Dollar-Strategies-Greatest/dp/1932958002], it is specifically stated that he doesn't speak in order to prevent being read. Do you have some reason to doubt this? If so, please use the {{ fact}} template, rather than just removing text, thanks. Stevage 05:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
In the article, it is mentioned "He is also renowned for having painstakingly turned $1 into more than $20,000 on an online poker site over six months, as a personal challenge." However it does not say on which server, does anyone know?
-- Chuck SMITH 23:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Full Tilt, it's in the "Pro Tips" archive (#100, ironically) and I have added the cite to the article text. 68.149.190.31 06:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC) ^^ PS: many thanks to whoever "cleaned up" my cite/site link :) 68.149.190.31 03:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The statement "Despite passing the $10k target the challenge continues and was at one point over $20k" is contradicted by the page it quotes: "In September of 2007 Chris finally achieved his $0 to $10,000 goal. Always true to his word, he donated his winnings to the Save the Children Foundation upon reaching the $10K mark." Nowhere on the page does it mention that his bankroll for this challenge exceeded $20k, only that he reached the $10k mark. I will leave the quote unchanged for now in case somebody has more they'd like to add regarding this challenge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.114.52 ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
nh, sir -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heads-Up_Poker_Championship#2008 199.214.26.240 ( talk) 17:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that he bad beat his opponent on the river to win the main event? I think so.-- UhOhFeeling ( talk) 06:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
"In college he honed his skill on IRC playing poker for play money in chat rooms."
How does one play poker on IRC? Seriously, I would like to see a source and explanation for this. Furthermore, it is blasphomous to apply the new generation "chat room" term from webchats to IRC which has channels instead. -- 84.249.164.59 ( talk) 10:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if Chris Ferguson is or not however the source cited on here is from a blog which gets It's info from a different blog. I don't think that is reliable. -- 24.119.32.80 ( talk) 02:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Stanford Wong is the pen name of a John Ferguson. Are John Ferguson and Chris Ferguson related? They are both in math, computers and gambling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.79.83 ( talk) 19:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the image is sideways? Wouldn't it be better to rotate it 90 degrees? -- OGoncho ( talk) 21:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
"In a late 2012 interview for PokerNews.com, Howard Lederer suggested that Ferguson was against paying dividends to Full Tilt's shareholders, believing they would weaken the company. Lederer said, further, that Ferguson cares more about his African charity than becoming wealthier. #ref http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g1wFJx461U&t=22m44s /ref#"
My reasons behind believe this doesn't belong on the page is that, due to WP:BLP, verifiability is incredibly important. Doubt has been cast on many things Lederer has said in his interviews and no other person (including Ferguson himself) have verified Lederer's claims. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San ( talk) 21:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, when do primary source interviews become legitimate sources for wikipedia biographies? Do the interviewees have to be under oath or something? Kahnsky ( talk) 22:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Opinions which make contentious claims about living people are deprecated as sources. Youtube is specifically iffy as a source per WP:RS. All told - leave it out. Collect ( talk) 13:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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A factoid is something that isn't true, while a factlet is true. Don't change it back anymore.
The use of the nickname "Jesus" is extremely disrespectful and offensive to many people, therefore I have removed it from the Wikipedia page. Including it prominently at the top of the page as part of his name is a form of publicity, which wikipedia cannot endorse. Whether or not it should be mentioned later in the article is debatable. While I know that Ferguson is an atheist and there are many others like this, the least that a rational, logical person could do is respect the religious beliefs of others. Professional poker player Daniel Negreanu has also mentioned that he finds the nickname offensive.
Saying whether is it offensive or not is POV. Some may find it offensive however wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and facts which are rather important to the article should be added, even if it may offend people. If it does offend you then I suggest you speak to Chris and make him change his nickname, however the fact that his nickname is Jesus cannot be changed, whether it is liked or not.
As I was reading this article just now, I found it odd that his nickname wasn't mentioned, and came to the discussion page specifically because of that. Every time you see this guy on TV, he is referred to as Chris "Jesus" Ferguson. It has been exactly that way for almost a decade now, so I suggest that it should be mentioned in the body of the article. I mean, I am offended by Hitler, but I would not presume to make his article easier to swallow. Yes.. I just Godwined the Chris Fergusuon talk page. Deal with it. 74.182.8.21 ( talk) 14:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Chris Ferguson is sometimes used to refer to Christopher Ferguson, an astronaut who flew on STS-115. The fourth result in a Google search for "chris ferguson" links to the astronaut's biography page. Perhaps this article could use a disambig notice at the top. PeepP 18:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
2005, why did you remove this sentence: "He rarely speaks at the table, and adopts an identical, motionless pose in most situations where he could be "read"." ? In "Aces and Kings" [http://www.amazon.com/Aces-Kings-Million-Dollar-Strategies-Greatest/dp/1932958002], it is specifically stated that he doesn't speak in order to prevent being read. Do you have some reason to doubt this? If so, please use the {{ fact}} template, rather than just removing text, thanks. Stevage 05:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
In the article, it is mentioned "He is also renowned for having painstakingly turned $1 into more than $20,000 on an online poker site over six months, as a personal challenge." However it does not say on which server, does anyone know?
-- Chuck SMITH 23:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Full Tilt, it's in the "Pro Tips" archive (#100, ironically) and I have added the cite to the article text. 68.149.190.31 06:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC) ^^ PS: many thanks to whoever "cleaned up" my cite/site link :) 68.149.190.31 03:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The statement "Despite passing the $10k target the challenge continues and was at one point over $20k" is contradicted by the page it quotes: "In September of 2007 Chris finally achieved his $0 to $10,000 goal. Always true to his word, he donated his winnings to the Save the Children Foundation upon reaching the $10K mark." Nowhere on the page does it mention that his bankroll for this challenge exceeded $20k, only that he reached the $10k mark. I will leave the quote unchanged for now in case somebody has more they'd like to add regarding this challenge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.114.52 ( talk) 01:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
nh, sir -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Heads-Up_Poker_Championship#2008 199.214.26.240 ( talk) 17:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that he bad beat his opponent on the river to win the main event? I think so.-- UhOhFeeling ( talk) 06:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
"In college he honed his skill on IRC playing poker for play money in chat rooms."
How does one play poker on IRC? Seriously, I would like to see a source and explanation for this. Furthermore, it is blasphomous to apply the new generation "chat room" term from webchats to IRC which has channels instead. -- 84.249.164.59 ( talk) 10:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if Chris Ferguson is or not however the source cited on here is from a blog which gets It's info from a different blog. I don't think that is reliable. -- 24.119.32.80 ( talk) 02:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Stanford Wong is the pen name of a John Ferguson. Are John Ferguson and Chris Ferguson related? They are both in math, computers and gambling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.79.83 ( talk) 19:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason why the image is sideways? Wouldn't it be better to rotate it 90 degrees? -- OGoncho ( talk) 21:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
"In a late 2012 interview for PokerNews.com, Howard Lederer suggested that Ferguson was against paying dividends to Full Tilt's shareholders, believing they would weaken the company. Lederer said, further, that Ferguson cares more about his African charity than becoming wealthier. #ref http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g1wFJx461U&t=22m44s /ref#"
My reasons behind believe this doesn't belong on the page is that, due to WP:BLP, verifiability is incredibly important. Doubt has been cast on many things Lederer has said in his interviews and no other person (including Ferguson himself) have verified Lederer's claims. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San ( talk) 21:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, when do primary source interviews become legitimate sources for wikipedia biographies? Do the interviewees have to be under oath or something? Kahnsky ( talk) 22:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Opinions which make contentious claims about living people are deprecated as sources. Youtube is specifically iffy as a source per WP:RS. All told - leave it out. Collect ( talk) 13:22, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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