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If Sarsden Halt is shown as originally OW&WR, why is Chipping Norton shown as originally B&CDR? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 16:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Last night I put a book list at User talk:Motacilla#Completed lines but without titles or publishers. Two of the four (the exceptions are Jenkins, Brown & Parkhouse (2005) and Mitchell & Smith (Oct 2009) because I don't have them) are given fuller listing at Kingham railway station#References, which I've just added to (but not with inline citations as yet). Kingham railway station has chronology as prose; in summary:
Right, what do we have re the ownership of the CNR? Taking my sources in order of publication:
MacDermot, E.T. (1927). History of the Great Western Railway. Vol. Vol. I Part II (1st ed.). Paddington: Great Western Railway. p. 524.The ... branch railway to Chipping Norton ... was constructed as a separate undertaking at a total cost of £26,000, of which local people subscribed £10,000 and Peto, the contractor, the remainder. The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway worked the line from the opening, and purchased it on a guarantee of 4 per cent. in 1859.
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help)Gilks, J. Spencer (1955). "The Banbury & Cheltenham Direct Railway". The Railway Magazine. 101 (652). Westminster: Tothill Press: 521–522.... the Chipping Norton Railway ... was constructed as a separate undertaking at a total cost of £26,000, of which local people subscribed £10,000 and Peto, the contractor, the remainder. The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway worked the line from the opening, and purchased it on a guarantee of 4% in 1859.
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help)and... Peto decided not only to build the line but also to risk £14,000 of his own private fortune to the enterprise. The estimate for the branch was £26,000 and the balance of £12,000 was made up by the inhabitants of Chipping Norton and district, the subscription list headed ... by William Bliss.
Russell, J.H. (1977). The Banbury and Cheltenham Railway 1887-1962. Headington: Oxford Publishing Co. pp. 6–7. ISBN 0 902888 45 5.In 1859, the Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway, realizing at last, no doubt, that the little line was financially sound, purchased it on a guarantee of 4%
andThe [Chipping Norton] railway was, in theory, an independent undertaking, but as Peto had subscribed £16,000 of the Company's authorised capital of £26,000 it was obvious where the power really lay.
Jenkins, S.C.; Quayle, H.I. (1977). The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway. The Oakwood Library of Railway History. Blandford: Oakwood Press. p. 60.The Worcester company purchased the line outright in 1859.
andThe official estimated cost ... was £24,000 ... The OW&W was authorised to issue 2,400 additional shares of £10 each, called 'Chipping Norton Branch Shares' ... On 20th December 1853, ... John Fowler subscribed shares to the value of £1,000, and Sir Morton Peto ... subscribed ... £14,000 ... James Haughton Langston and William Bliss ... agreed to subscribe £1,000 and £1,200 respectively. The other 43 subscribers made up the balance with sums of between £600 and £20
finally... the Bill ... received Royal Assent on 31st July 1854 ... 'The Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) Act, 1854' (17 & 18 VICT - SESS.1854)
Hemmings, William (2004). The Banbury & Cheltenham Railway. Vol. Volume One. Didcot: Wild Swan. pp. 11, 12, 19. ISBN 1 874103 88 7.The year 1859 marked the end of the special financial arrangements concerning the shareholders, when the OW&W entered into a guarantee to pay 4% per annum to the holders of branch shares. The separate accounts were then closed.
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help)It is clear that Gilks has lifted portions of MacDermot's text verbatim.
Since Sir Samuel Morton Peto was involved there may also be something in Adrian Vaughan's recent biography. If there is, it will be well-researched. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 13:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The Oxford Chronicle for 18 August 1855, quoted in the same book says:"I yesterday inspected the Chipping Norton Branch of the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway".
"The Company also engage... to pay to the Chipping Norton Shareholders a fair proportion of the profits brought by means of the branch to the main line. A clause is inserted in the act enabling the Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton company to purchase the shares at par, paying fair interest to the shareholders for their capital..."
"The shares created and issued, or to be issued, under the powers of the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) act of 1854, which shall be existing at the time of such conversion, and in respect of which the whole money subscribed shall have been paid up, shall, when and as the same respectively have been paid up, be converted and consolidated into a Chipping Norton Branch Railway stock."
Clinker, C.R. (1955). "Letters to the Editor: Banbury & Cheltenham Direct Railway". The Railway Magazine. 101 (654). Westminster: Tothill Press: 724.The reference to the Chipping Norton branch as a "separate undertaking" is misleading; the same term is used in MacDermot ... The line was authorised by the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) Act of July 31, 1854, and the separation of the capital was a purely financial matter.
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help)"When Britain's railways were nationalised in 1948 the B&CDR became part of the Western Region of British Railways." - surely the B&CDR had been swallowed up by the GWR some fifty years earlier? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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If Sarsden Halt is shown as originally OW&WR, why is Chipping Norton shown as originally B&CDR? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 16:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
(undent) Last night I put a book list at User talk:Motacilla#Completed lines but without titles or publishers. Two of the four (the exceptions are Jenkins, Brown & Parkhouse (2005) and Mitchell & Smith (Oct 2009) because I don't have them) are given fuller listing at Kingham railway station#References, which I've just added to (but not with inline citations as yet). Kingham railway station has chronology as prose; in summary:
Right, what do we have re the ownership of the CNR? Taking my sources in order of publication:
MacDermot, E.T. (1927). History of the Great Western Railway. Vol. Vol. I Part II (1st ed.). Paddington: Great Western Railway. p. 524.The ... branch railway to Chipping Norton ... was constructed as a separate undertaking at a total cost of £26,000, of which local people subscribed £10,000 and Peto, the contractor, the remainder. The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway worked the line from the opening, and purchased it on a guarantee of 4 per cent. in 1859.
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help)Gilks, J. Spencer (1955). "The Banbury & Cheltenham Direct Railway". The Railway Magazine. 101 (652). Westminster: Tothill Press: 521–522.... the Chipping Norton Railway ... was constructed as a separate undertaking at a total cost of £26,000, of which local people subscribed £10,000 and Peto, the contractor, the remainder. The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway worked the line from the opening, and purchased it on a guarantee of 4% in 1859.
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help)and... Peto decided not only to build the line but also to risk £14,000 of his own private fortune to the enterprise. The estimate for the branch was £26,000 and the balance of £12,000 was made up by the inhabitants of Chipping Norton and district, the subscription list headed ... by William Bliss.
Russell, J.H. (1977). The Banbury and Cheltenham Railway 1887-1962. Headington: Oxford Publishing Co. pp. 6–7. ISBN 0 902888 45 5.In 1859, the Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway, realizing at last, no doubt, that the little line was financially sound, purchased it on a guarantee of 4%
andThe [Chipping Norton] railway was, in theory, an independent undertaking, but as Peto had subscribed £16,000 of the Company's authorised capital of £26,000 it was obvious where the power really lay.
Jenkins, S.C.; Quayle, H.I. (1977). The Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway. The Oakwood Library of Railway History. Blandford: Oakwood Press. p. 60.The Worcester company purchased the line outright in 1859.
andThe official estimated cost ... was £24,000 ... The OW&W was authorised to issue 2,400 additional shares of £10 each, called 'Chipping Norton Branch Shares' ... On 20th December 1853, ... John Fowler subscribed shares to the value of £1,000, and Sir Morton Peto ... subscribed ... £14,000 ... James Haughton Langston and William Bliss ... agreed to subscribe £1,000 and £1,200 respectively. The other 43 subscribers made up the balance with sums of between £600 and £20
finally... the Bill ... received Royal Assent on 31st July 1854 ... 'The Oxford, Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) Act, 1854' (17 & 18 VICT - SESS.1854)
Hemmings, William (2004). The Banbury & Cheltenham Railway. Vol. Volume One. Didcot: Wild Swan. pp. 11, 12, 19. ISBN 1 874103 88 7.The year 1859 marked the end of the special financial arrangements concerning the shareholders, when the OW&W entered into a guarantee to pay 4% per annum to the holders of branch shares. The separate accounts were then closed.
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help)It is clear that Gilks has lifted portions of MacDermot's text verbatim.
Since Sir Samuel Morton Peto was involved there may also be something in Adrian Vaughan's recent biography. If there is, it will be well-researched. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 13:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
The Oxford Chronicle for 18 August 1855, quoted in the same book says:"I yesterday inspected the Chipping Norton Branch of the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway".
"The Company also engage... to pay to the Chipping Norton Shareholders a fair proportion of the profits brought by means of the branch to the main line. A clause is inserted in the act enabling the Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton company to purchase the shares at par, paying fair interest to the shareholders for their capital..."
"The shares created and issued, or to be issued, under the powers of the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) act of 1854, which shall be existing at the time of such conversion, and in respect of which the whole money subscribed shall have been paid up, shall, when and as the same respectively have been paid up, be converted and consolidated into a Chipping Norton Branch Railway stock."
Clinker, C.R. (1955). "Letters to the Editor: Banbury & Cheltenham Direct Railway". The Railway Magazine. 101 (654). Westminster: Tothill Press: 724.The reference to the Chipping Norton branch as a "separate undertaking" is misleading; the same term is used in MacDermot ... The line was authorised by the Oxford Worcester and Wolverhampton Railway (Chipping Norton Branch) Act of July 31, 1854, and the separation of the capital was a purely financial matter.
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help)"When Britain's railways were nationalised in 1948 the B&CDR became part of the Western Region of British Railways." - surely the B&CDR had been swallowed up by the GWR some fifty years earlier? -- Redrose64 ( talk) 22:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)