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That map of Chipotle locations is wrong and should be removed. The Chipotle Website says there are 8 locations in Washington and I have been to one of them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.82.199 ( talk) 03:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
The map should be removed it isn't even in agreement with the number of states listed as having Chipotle restaurants. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.137.127 ( talk) 23:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
There was a new store opened this year in Greenville, SC, and there will be one in Nashville, TN, this fall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.252.188.163 ( talk) 15:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
A Chipotle opened in Nashville, TN in November 2009. PDCook ( talk) 22:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
New Chipotle in Burlington, VT and in Baton Rouge, LA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.186.93 ( talk) 15:06, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
One Chipotle has opened in Vancover BC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.121.127 ( talk) 16:01, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I am finding the few sentences about the CIW to be heavily slanted against Chipotle. The term, "intense public scrutiny" is a loaded term, and even the Denver Post source explains how it seems that the CIW is attacking Chipotle for publicity, even though only 5% of its tomotoes come from the region the CIW represents. Also, this doesn't seem to be national news, just regional news when the CIW comes into town with their "massive" protests of 32 people. I personally don't see this as even being relevent or newsworthy enough to add to this article, but I'll first make it more balanced before we start debating that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryapathy ( talk • contribs) 21:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. The information itself as well as the wording completely lacks impartiality.. they're weasel words. Can we clean this up? Sailoralea ( talk) 16:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I've editted the section to make it more balanced. I'd like to remind the people adding this info that most of the sources I can find and that are provided may not be reliable. Most of the newspapers that mention the CIW are independent newspapers with a liberal slant, and do not discuss the issue in a non-biased way. The only reliable source I could find so far was the Denver Post article, which actually presents both sides of the situation. Also, I call into question using the CIW website as a source, as that is definately NPOV. Please make sure the information added isn't a witch-hunt on the company using WP as a soapbox. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I have been trying to make this section as neutral as possible, even though I personally believe that the information about CIW should be removed. I can barely find any references to the CIW/Chipotle issues in real news outlets, and most of the sources for information are the CIW itself, mirror organizations of CIW, or slanted newspapers/E-zines. There are very few notable news outlets giving this any coverage. I think maybe the CIW could have it own page, but not have it only on the Chipotle page. One policy about this is WP:UNDUE, as we don't have many reliable (or recent) sources about CIW. This also applies to WP:SOAPBOX, as Wikipedia is probably the #1 source of info about CIW/Chipotle. Finally, and probably most importantly is WP:NOTABILITY, as it seems that the issues fails to fall within the Notability Guidelines. I think this should be removed, and if someone wants to create a CIW page, then that would be the proper place for the info. If I don't hear any objections, I'll remove it soon, but I'd like to hear other people opinions on the subject. Angryapathy ( talk) 12:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
If anyone looks in the history, you might see a few recent edits from me. Well, I noticed a lot of areas that weren't cited (with or without tags) and decided to do something about it. I've added a good amount of info to the page with citations. Feel free to help. I think this page could eventually be made into a featured article if we get all the sources done right. I've found a wealth of info on Chipotle online, so I think we can change this article around for the better. Anyone want to help out? Angryapathy ( talk) 20:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm still working on the article, making some headway. There have been a lot of areas that needed wikifying. I redid the history section, adding more info on the history of the business, and cut down the two paragraphs on stocks. Can we use the Chipotle website as a source for information on the food/ingredients? I think so, since simply listing types of food isn't breaking WP:NPOV. Also, I think that the Decor/Enviromental Responsibility sections can be effective merged into a section called, "Architecture." Any comments on my edits? I know I've done a lot, but it seems like this article wasn't up to WP standards with citations. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think I am done with the overhaul of the article. A few areas could use a little work, like the introductory paragraph, and making sure that the list in the menu section is properly referenced. But I think almost all the info is properly sourced from reliable sources, and that most of the available information is included. Of course, it's still a work in progress. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I think I need to expound why I have removed the burrito health facts that cites the Chipotle nutrition info. "Based on the nutrition guides provided by the company, a standard burrito can contain more than 1000 calories (approximately 50% of the Reference Daily Intake (RDI)), 40 grams of fat (approximately 63% of the RDI), and 2400 mg of sodium (approximately 100% of the RDI)." First of all, what is a standard burrito? Secondly, the health facts provided only show ingredients, NOT burritos. Hence, the original synthesis. The info has been added up (arbitrarily) and calcuated independantally of the source. Finally, the reference does not include the RDI info for calories. This info comes from an unnamed source that is not referenced. This is why I found a better source. Also, citing from the Chipotle website also causes issues from WP:PRIMARY, since the citation is a primary source, we should aim for a secondary source.
So pick your poison, either this sentence is original synthesis, or it has unsourced statements. Either way, it needs to be improved, deleted, or cited with a better source. Until then, I am deleting it until something better is put in its place. Angryapathy ( talk) 14:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Chipotle is currently listed in the page List of Fast Food Restaurants, which at the top says it is distinct from fast casual restaurants. I know nothing about these categorizations, but the top of this page does identify Chipotle as one of the first fast casual resataurants. Perhaps someone who has more knowledge about the subject would take it upon themselves to decide whether Chipotle should be in the Fast Food list?
Also, the List of Fast Casual Restaurants page is currently a redirect to the page Fast Casual Restaurants, which seems a tad bit unprofessional to me. Maybe if Chipotle really is fast casual someone could make it the first entry in a new list ;-). RampagingCarrot ( talk) 05:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
A regular Chipotle burrito with the normal ingredients is an incredibly unhealthy meal. Their "natural" origins don't make up for levels of fat, calories and sodium that can even hold its own against a Big Mac combo (Bag a McMeal and check out ChipotleFan.com to see for yourself). It is important to remember that a burrito counts as one meal (and one serving). I noticed that this is hardly mentioned in the nutrition tab. While it was noted, it is done a perfunctory manner and the majority of the section goes toward the tendency toward natural ingredients. One would think that the horrible fat/calorie/sodium numbers deserve at least equal time with the ad copy posted below it. Thoughts? -amarstan- 147.9.224.47 ( talk) 01:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Guyanakoolaid removed this statement in bold: "In September 2009, Chipotle reached an agreement to raise the wages for its tomato-pickers, with assurances that the money will be going directly to the workers (unlike agreements made by other food outlets." from the source: "Chipotle Raises Pay For Tomato Pickers" stating: "Absolutely nowhere in the referenced source did a guarantee that money will go directly to workers appear, much less any talk at all that other restaurants had not done the same." I feel that is explicitly stated in the source. I'd rather have a discussion instead of edit warring, so any comments? Angryapathy ( talk) 03:01, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Like I said, it was a misstatement in the summary of the news article that was supported nowhere in the actual audio clip that was the source, and if it was said, it was a fabrication. Maybe the you read that in the summary and genuinely thought it to be true, but unfortunately it is not. Chipotle was hardly the first to agree to the penny-per-pound increase, and in reality was a holdout after other major restaurants, including McDonald's (in 2007) and Taco Bell (in 2005), had agreed to the exact same terms several years ago: http://www.oxfamamerica.org/articles/us-farmworkers-reach-historic-agreement-with-mcdonalds Guyanakoolaid ( talk) 23:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I added another line with information that comes directly from the cited source. It directly states that the majority of the other companies' "pay raises" still sits in escrow accounts. Chipotle's money goes directly to the workers. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:26, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
The current description of the Chipotle/CIW issue implies that the dispute is resolved. A recent article in the industry journal FastCasual (hardly a "liberal" or slanted source) substantiates the position that there is still a recognized dispute over Chipotle's tomato supply chain practices. Sandillero ( talk) 12:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.163.221.253 ( talk)
I have assessed this article as a B-class article for the following reasons:
Issues that I have found:
-- Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!) 02:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I think this article is close to being ready to be assessed for Good Article Status. I am unfamiliar with the ins and outs of that process, so does anyone have any input on that subject? Angryapathy ( talk) 22:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I added the article for nomination for GA status. Angryapathy ( talk) 01:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
The mention on South Park last night seems to have made the news. About 89,000 hits on Google now for "chipotle south park". Worth adding a mention in the article? -- SpareSimian ( talk) 20:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a few comments about the article from an uninvolved editor. Two on the tomato source controversy: (1) I think it should be said that most restaraunts did the same thing Chipotle was doing, that this is the norm. Chipotle was just being unobservant or hypocritcal to its principles. (2) More detail on exactly what was going on with tomato pickers wages is in order, it was more than just not being paid enough-- there was fee gouging that culminated in slavery. I suggest digging very carefully through the sources, and the sources sources (see this one!) to get at the truth of the matter.
Who currently owns the corporation, i.e. that it is publicly traded corporation may belong in the lead, since all the previous owners are. As the lead is now, it could be misinterpreted as meaning that the company is back in the hands of the original owner.
Also, how about describing how to pronounce "Chipotle" since it's nonstandard? Diderot's dreams (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
So I checked the page hits for this page, and wow, was there ever a surge of attention from the South Park episode. Even a week later, the stats are way higher than the day before the episode (but slowly tapering off). See for yourself: http://stats.grok.se/en/200910/chipotle_mexican_grill I guess it is kind of difficult to say the mention was non-notable when it generated this much interest. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:02, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
References
I often see people confusing an article that describes the company with an "advertisement" for a company. I disagree with the tag (it's easy to vaguely tag something, another to actually work on it), but since I have made many edits to this article, I hope to hear thoughts from fellow editors as to whether or not the intro section deserves the tag. Angryapathy ( talk) 20:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry for the late reply. As someone noted, I am on wiki infrequently. Two things standed out, first the article is very positive, in it self not a problem, but suspicious. The quote "commited to natural ingredients" is on the other hand both ad-speak and POV. Finding a fast food chain that wouldn't or doesn't claim the same thing is very hard. The fact that someone put a reference on it, and the overall positive nature of the article, made me think someone with a dedicated POV was controlling the article, by marking it with its problem I was hoping to draw attention to the issue.
I am just going to read over the article and dump comments here:
I was quite sceptic after the first read-though. After the second now, I believe this a really good article. You need to work on tonning down Cpipotle's own messages or place them in better context. Once that is gone, it might be time to reapply for GA :) Carewolf ( talk) 23:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Chipotle Mexican Grill/Archive 2/GA1
Well, I have made an attempt at adding/editting the images on the page, but as I am very new to pictures on WP and Commons, I was hoping someone could go over the new pictures and locations to check my formatting. Hopefully this will help in the GA review. Thanks! Angryapathy ( talk) 18:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been looking at some of the page stats for the Chipotle pepper and Chipotle Mexican Grill, and it seems that when Chipotle is in the news, the chipotle pepper article recieves proportional amount of hits. I think we should redirect "chipotle" to this page, and perhaps rename the other article to chipotle (pepper). But I am new in the area of redirects, and am not sure how to go about the process. Any thoughts or help on the subject? Angryapathy ( talk) 22:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
(This has been moved from my ( Angryapathy's) talk page)
Hey there. You recently became the next in what's shaping up to be a long line of people who undo an edit I've made to Chipotle several times. The edit in question removed the statement, "Chipotle serves more naturally raised meat than any other restaurant." This is the third time I've made that same edit, as a matter of fact. I'd vaguely hoped to get the attention of user:HelloAnnyong, from whom I've been waiting for a response for some time. I know he's seen it - I forgot to sign my post and went back and signed it in a seperate edit - he undid that, but didn't respond. That's the problem - I can't get anyone to talk about it. Be the first?
Here's what I told him, or her -
"...I'd expurgated the statement, "Chipotle serves more naturally raised meat than any other restaurant," because it's difficult to support, rather than for a lack of trying on the part of whomever it was that initially added it. I still think that sentence ought to be omitted from the article, or else qualified to make it less absolute - one source does not a truth make, and the source was misquoted. What the sourced article actually says is, "This year, Chipotle will serve more than 60 million pounds of naturally raised meat - more than any other restaurant company - including all of its pork and chicken, and more than 60 percent of its beef." Clearly that statement refers only to the company's doings in the year 2009. And given a source that said what the article says in the same words, the statement still wouldn't merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article because it's subject to constant change, and depends upon the assumption by the writer that the author of the sourced material compared every single restaurant that existed at the time, which is unverifiable, which is the bottom line."
I still think so, and it occurs to me - the problem is that the sourced article doesn't cite its sources. I mean, if we knew where the author of the sourced material had gotten his information, if we knew what restaurants he'd compared, for example, one could write a more accurate statement, maybe to the effect that, "In 2009, Chipotle served more naturally raised meat than any other publicly traded company in the United States," or something. If you have that information, or can find it, let me know. But otherwise the original objection stands.
I'll do for you what I did for him, I guess, or her. Wait a week, then re-do the edit. Gimme somethin' to work with man. Stagyar Zil Doggo ( talk) 17:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Cool guys, thanks. I like it a lot Angryapathy. It's all good HelloAnnyong - we're still friends. Stagyar Zil Doggo ( talk) 20:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I went through the documents at Chipotle's website, and created a graph of the company's store growth since 2002.
I'm not sure if it belongs in the article, and would like to hear other's opinions. Angryapathy ( talk) 19:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
To avoid an edit war, I'll move this discussion here. A few edits and reverts were made to the article regarding who designed the chairs for Chipotle. All sources mention Bruce Gueswell as the designer of the chairs; however, an editor ( User:Shsauer) attempted to add this as a ref that Steve Sauer designed the chairs. As Oixio is a site run by Steve Sauer, we would need other reliable sources to add that information. As it stands, searching "steve sauer" and chipotle returns 5 results. The ref provided does not pass WP:RS, and unless a better source can be cited, the information should be omitted. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
There's a brief section that mentions that every store displays a photo of the original. This is not true. The original store has a photo of the previous Dolly Maddison that occupied the space and no photo of itself. Further, other stores (at least the one at 333 East Alameda, Denver) do not have a photo of the original store. I think it's a shame that a "news" article which claims this common myth is used as an authoritative source. Should I take some video of walking around these two stores to become a source for this fact? greggles ( talk) 02:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I have no trouble believing that Greggles is correct. Why would they take a picture of the first store and put it inside that same store? Makes no sense. -- C S ( talk) 22:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The list says that only the carnitas and beans are made at a central location. When I worked there, tortillas were not made in-house and barbacoa came pre-made in a bag that was heated up just like the Carnitas. Has that changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.13.60 ( talk) 21:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Chipotle does not make those items in-house. It's a poorly written statement in the article. "Nearly all the food is made in-house except..." Well, it doesn't say all of the food, which would mean there are other items. Thay happen to be tortillas and carnitas. Those who are reverting, you can continue to have incorrect information in the article if you want. But to make such an unnecessary and dogmatic statement in the article from a poorly written statement that leaves many possibilities is poor judgement. It seems difficult to find a source on this, probably because Chipotle doesn't go around shouting "Our tortillas are made in a factory!" I did find a message board that says as much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyPiersall ( talk • contribs)
I'm aware a message board is not a source. That is why I did not post it. But the statement in the article verifies nothing. The statement does not need to be in the article. That's great about all the BS, but it's wrong information. The statement in the article is like I said, poorly written. But that wasn't addressed. I would say just remove the statement about the food. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyPiersall ( talk • contribs) 18:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
That looks pretty good. I like the wording. Thanks for reasoning with me. JimmyPiersall ( talk) 18:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Rumor has it that Chipotle will open a restaurant in Paris. Is there any proof? Bozketa ( talk) 23:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
details please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.251.144.15 ( talk) 23:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
As I have explained in the past, this section should be as concise as possible. This article is about Chipotle Mexican Grill, and the CIW issue is a very small part of Chipotle. We should take care to state the facts and not give WP:UNDUE to the information. I believe the information could be greatly expanded upon in the CIW article, since the CIW is the one who finds issue with Chipotle, not the other way around. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Contributors to this article might be interested in assisting with the expansion of The Scarecrow (2013 film), a promotional film by Chipotle that has received a lot of press coverage. Please feel free to contribute! -- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:47, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
For the advertising segment, would it be better organized to put it in chronological order to see the progression of the advertisement over the years? BlackBetty27 ( talk) 21:26, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
So breakfast has changed a bit http://www.foodbusinessnews.net/articles/news_home/Food-Service-Retail/2013/04/Chipotle_for_breakfast.aspx?ID=%7B39D2A95C-C9A7-4057-B4FF-B441AD8FFA97%7D&cck=1 So the article is out of date — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.131.42.0 ( talk) 23:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
So I just realized that this article doesn't mention ShopHouse, a venture that CMG started in 2011. It still only has a few locations, but it's got a number of sources discussing the openings, and has at least one mention on the company website. The problem is, I don't think it has the notability to be a separate page, but this article seems to be more about the actual Chipotle restaurants than the company itself. Any ideas about where this info should go?
Bpmcneilly ( talk) 21:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/chipotle-pork_n_6466350.html?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=Green Please use if you'd like. Thanks, Bananasoldier ( talk) 01:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
The 'Menu' section currently includes this statement:
The cited source ( BuzzFeed) makes this pretty clear: the Chipotle Communications Director was interviewed and denied this is a part of any official menu or training, but rather a custom request that some customers have made. His quote: “If you go into a Chipotle and order one, more likely than not, you will be met with a blank stare.” This ceases to be an "urban legend" once the company has formally denied it, and as it's not an official menu item, secret or not, I don't think it has any place on this page. If we listed every item you could potentially specially-request at every restaurant chain our articles would have no end.
Done Walkersam ( talk) 18:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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That map of Chipotle locations is wrong and should be removed. The Chipotle Website says there are 8 locations in Washington and I have been to one of them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.82.199 ( talk) 03:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
The map should be removed it isn't even in agreement with the number of states listed as having Chipotle restaurants. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.137.127 ( talk) 23:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
There was a new store opened this year in Greenville, SC, and there will be one in Nashville, TN, this fall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.252.188.163 ( talk) 15:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
A Chipotle opened in Nashville, TN in November 2009. PDCook ( talk) 22:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
New Chipotle in Burlington, VT and in Baton Rouge, LA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.186.93 ( talk) 15:06, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
One Chipotle has opened in Vancover BC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.121.127 ( talk) 16:01, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I am finding the few sentences about the CIW to be heavily slanted against Chipotle. The term, "intense public scrutiny" is a loaded term, and even the Denver Post source explains how it seems that the CIW is attacking Chipotle for publicity, even though only 5% of its tomotoes come from the region the CIW represents. Also, this doesn't seem to be national news, just regional news when the CIW comes into town with their "massive" protests of 32 people. I personally don't see this as even being relevent or newsworthy enough to add to this article, but I'll first make it more balanced before we start debating that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angryapathy ( talk • contribs) 21:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. The information itself as well as the wording completely lacks impartiality.. they're weasel words. Can we clean this up? Sailoralea ( talk) 16:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I've editted the section to make it more balanced. I'd like to remind the people adding this info that most of the sources I can find and that are provided may not be reliable. Most of the newspapers that mention the CIW are independent newspapers with a liberal slant, and do not discuss the issue in a non-biased way. The only reliable source I could find so far was the Denver Post article, which actually presents both sides of the situation. Also, I call into question using the CIW website as a source, as that is definately NPOV. Please make sure the information added isn't a witch-hunt on the company using WP as a soapbox. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
I have been trying to make this section as neutral as possible, even though I personally believe that the information about CIW should be removed. I can barely find any references to the CIW/Chipotle issues in real news outlets, and most of the sources for information are the CIW itself, mirror organizations of CIW, or slanted newspapers/E-zines. There are very few notable news outlets giving this any coverage. I think maybe the CIW could have it own page, but not have it only on the Chipotle page. One policy about this is WP:UNDUE, as we don't have many reliable (or recent) sources about CIW. This also applies to WP:SOAPBOX, as Wikipedia is probably the #1 source of info about CIW/Chipotle. Finally, and probably most importantly is WP:NOTABILITY, as it seems that the issues fails to fall within the Notability Guidelines. I think this should be removed, and if someone wants to create a CIW page, then that would be the proper place for the info. If I don't hear any objections, I'll remove it soon, but I'd like to hear other people opinions on the subject. Angryapathy ( talk) 12:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
If anyone looks in the history, you might see a few recent edits from me. Well, I noticed a lot of areas that weren't cited (with or without tags) and decided to do something about it. I've added a good amount of info to the page with citations. Feel free to help. I think this page could eventually be made into a featured article if we get all the sources done right. I've found a wealth of info on Chipotle online, so I think we can change this article around for the better. Anyone want to help out? Angryapathy ( talk) 20:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm still working on the article, making some headway. There have been a lot of areas that needed wikifying. I redid the history section, adding more info on the history of the business, and cut down the two paragraphs on stocks. Can we use the Chipotle website as a source for information on the food/ingredients? I think so, since simply listing types of food isn't breaking WP:NPOV. Also, I think that the Decor/Enviromental Responsibility sections can be effective merged into a section called, "Architecture." Any comments on my edits? I know I've done a lot, but it seems like this article wasn't up to WP standards with citations. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think I am done with the overhaul of the article. A few areas could use a little work, like the introductory paragraph, and making sure that the list in the menu section is properly referenced. But I think almost all the info is properly sourced from reliable sources, and that most of the available information is included. Of course, it's still a work in progress. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I think I need to expound why I have removed the burrito health facts that cites the Chipotle nutrition info. "Based on the nutrition guides provided by the company, a standard burrito can contain more than 1000 calories (approximately 50% of the Reference Daily Intake (RDI)), 40 grams of fat (approximately 63% of the RDI), and 2400 mg of sodium (approximately 100% of the RDI)." First of all, what is a standard burrito? Secondly, the health facts provided only show ingredients, NOT burritos. Hence, the original synthesis. The info has been added up (arbitrarily) and calcuated independantally of the source. Finally, the reference does not include the RDI info for calories. This info comes from an unnamed source that is not referenced. This is why I found a better source. Also, citing from the Chipotle website also causes issues from WP:PRIMARY, since the citation is a primary source, we should aim for a secondary source.
So pick your poison, either this sentence is original synthesis, or it has unsourced statements. Either way, it needs to be improved, deleted, or cited with a better source. Until then, I am deleting it until something better is put in its place. Angryapathy ( talk) 14:39, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Chipotle is currently listed in the page List of Fast Food Restaurants, which at the top says it is distinct from fast casual restaurants. I know nothing about these categorizations, but the top of this page does identify Chipotle as one of the first fast casual resataurants. Perhaps someone who has more knowledge about the subject would take it upon themselves to decide whether Chipotle should be in the Fast Food list?
Also, the List of Fast Casual Restaurants page is currently a redirect to the page Fast Casual Restaurants, which seems a tad bit unprofessional to me. Maybe if Chipotle really is fast casual someone could make it the first entry in a new list ;-). RampagingCarrot ( talk) 05:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
A regular Chipotle burrito with the normal ingredients is an incredibly unhealthy meal. Their "natural" origins don't make up for levels of fat, calories and sodium that can even hold its own against a Big Mac combo (Bag a McMeal and check out ChipotleFan.com to see for yourself). It is important to remember that a burrito counts as one meal (and one serving). I noticed that this is hardly mentioned in the nutrition tab. While it was noted, it is done a perfunctory manner and the majority of the section goes toward the tendency toward natural ingredients. One would think that the horrible fat/calorie/sodium numbers deserve at least equal time with the ad copy posted below it. Thoughts? -amarstan- 147.9.224.47 ( talk) 01:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Guyanakoolaid removed this statement in bold: "In September 2009, Chipotle reached an agreement to raise the wages for its tomato-pickers, with assurances that the money will be going directly to the workers (unlike agreements made by other food outlets." from the source: "Chipotle Raises Pay For Tomato Pickers" stating: "Absolutely nowhere in the referenced source did a guarantee that money will go directly to workers appear, much less any talk at all that other restaurants had not done the same." I feel that is explicitly stated in the source. I'd rather have a discussion instead of edit warring, so any comments? Angryapathy ( talk) 03:01, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Like I said, it was a misstatement in the summary of the news article that was supported nowhere in the actual audio clip that was the source, and if it was said, it was a fabrication. Maybe the you read that in the summary and genuinely thought it to be true, but unfortunately it is not. Chipotle was hardly the first to agree to the penny-per-pound increase, and in reality was a holdout after other major restaurants, including McDonald's (in 2007) and Taco Bell (in 2005), had agreed to the exact same terms several years ago: http://www.oxfamamerica.org/articles/us-farmworkers-reach-historic-agreement-with-mcdonalds Guyanakoolaid ( talk) 23:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I added another line with information that comes directly from the cited source. It directly states that the majority of the other companies' "pay raises" still sits in escrow accounts. Chipotle's money goes directly to the workers. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:26, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
The current description of the Chipotle/CIW issue implies that the dispute is resolved. A recent article in the industry journal FastCasual (hardly a "liberal" or slanted source) substantiates the position that there is still a recognized dispute over Chipotle's tomato supply chain practices. Sandillero ( talk) 12:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.163.221.253 ( talk)
I have assessed this article as a B-class article for the following reasons:
Issues that I have found:
-- Jeremy ( blah blah • I did it!) 02:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I think this article is close to being ready to be assessed for Good Article Status. I am unfamiliar with the ins and outs of that process, so does anyone have any input on that subject? Angryapathy ( talk) 22:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I added the article for nomination for GA status. Angryapathy ( talk) 01:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
The mention on South Park last night seems to have made the news. About 89,000 hits on Google now for "chipotle south park". Worth adding a mention in the article? -- SpareSimian ( talk) 20:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Just a few comments about the article from an uninvolved editor. Two on the tomato source controversy: (1) I think it should be said that most restaraunts did the same thing Chipotle was doing, that this is the norm. Chipotle was just being unobservant or hypocritcal to its principles. (2) More detail on exactly what was going on with tomato pickers wages is in order, it was more than just not being paid enough-- there was fee gouging that culminated in slavery. I suggest digging very carefully through the sources, and the sources sources (see this one!) to get at the truth of the matter.
Who currently owns the corporation, i.e. that it is publicly traded corporation may belong in the lead, since all the previous owners are. As the lead is now, it could be misinterpreted as meaning that the company is back in the hands of the original owner.
Also, how about describing how to pronounce "Chipotle" since it's nonstandard? Diderot's dreams (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
So I checked the page hits for this page, and wow, was there ever a surge of attention from the South Park episode. Even a week later, the stats are way higher than the day before the episode (but slowly tapering off). See for yourself: http://stats.grok.se/en/200910/chipotle_mexican_grill I guess it is kind of difficult to say the mention was non-notable when it generated this much interest. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:02, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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I often see people confusing an article that describes the company with an "advertisement" for a company. I disagree with the tag (it's easy to vaguely tag something, another to actually work on it), but since I have made many edits to this article, I hope to hear thoughts from fellow editors as to whether or not the intro section deserves the tag. Angryapathy ( talk) 20:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry for the late reply. As someone noted, I am on wiki infrequently. Two things standed out, first the article is very positive, in it self not a problem, but suspicious. The quote "commited to natural ingredients" is on the other hand both ad-speak and POV. Finding a fast food chain that wouldn't or doesn't claim the same thing is very hard. The fact that someone put a reference on it, and the overall positive nature of the article, made me think someone with a dedicated POV was controlling the article, by marking it with its problem I was hoping to draw attention to the issue.
I am just going to read over the article and dump comments here:
I was quite sceptic after the first read-though. After the second now, I believe this a really good article. You need to work on tonning down Cpipotle's own messages or place them in better context. Once that is gone, it might be time to reapply for GA :) Carewolf ( talk) 23:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Chipotle Mexican Grill/Archive 2/GA1
Well, I have made an attempt at adding/editting the images on the page, but as I am very new to pictures on WP and Commons, I was hoping someone could go over the new pictures and locations to check my formatting. Hopefully this will help in the GA review. Thanks! Angryapathy ( talk) 18:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been looking at some of the page stats for the Chipotle pepper and Chipotle Mexican Grill, and it seems that when Chipotle is in the news, the chipotle pepper article recieves proportional amount of hits. I think we should redirect "chipotle" to this page, and perhaps rename the other article to chipotle (pepper). But I am new in the area of redirects, and am not sure how to go about the process. Any thoughts or help on the subject? Angryapathy ( talk) 22:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
(This has been moved from my ( Angryapathy's) talk page)
Hey there. You recently became the next in what's shaping up to be a long line of people who undo an edit I've made to Chipotle several times. The edit in question removed the statement, "Chipotle serves more naturally raised meat than any other restaurant." This is the third time I've made that same edit, as a matter of fact. I'd vaguely hoped to get the attention of user:HelloAnnyong, from whom I've been waiting for a response for some time. I know he's seen it - I forgot to sign my post and went back and signed it in a seperate edit - he undid that, but didn't respond. That's the problem - I can't get anyone to talk about it. Be the first?
Here's what I told him, or her -
"...I'd expurgated the statement, "Chipotle serves more naturally raised meat than any other restaurant," because it's difficult to support, rather than for a lack of trying on the part of whomever it was that initially added it. I still think that sentence ought to be omitted from the article, or else qualified to make it less absolute - one source does not a truth make, and the source was misquoted. What the sourced article actually says is, "This year, Chipotle will serve more than 60 million pounds of naturally raised meat - more than any other restaurant company - including all of its pork and chicken, and more than 60 percent of its beef." Clearly that statement refers only to the company's doings in the year 2009. And given a source that said what the article says in the same words, the statement still wouldn't merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article because it's subject to constant change, and depends upon the assumption by the writer that the author of the sourced material compared every single restaurant that existed at the time, which is unverifiable, which is the bottom line."
I still think so, and it occurs to me - the problem is that the sourced article doesn't cite its sources. I mean, if we knew where the author of the sourced material had gotten his information, if we knew what restaurants he'd compared, for example, one could write a more accurate statement, maybe to the effect that, "In 2009, Chipotle served more naturally raised meat than any other publicly traded company in the United States," or something. If you have that information, or can find it, let me know. But otherwise the original objection stands.
I'll do for you what I did for him, I guess, or her. Wait a week, then re-do the edit. Gimme somethin' to work with man. Stagyar Zil Doggo ( talk) 17:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Cool guys, thanks. I like it a lot Angryapathy. It's all good HelloAnnyong - we're still friends. Stagyar Zil Doggo ( talk) 20:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I went through the documents at Chipotle's website, and created a graph of the company's store growth since 2002.
I'm not sure if it belongs in the article, and would like to hear other's opinions. Angryapathy ( talk) 19:47, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
To avoid an edit war, I'll move this discussion here. A few edits and reverts were made to the article regarding who designed the chairs for Chipotle. All sources mention Bruce Gueswell as the designer of the chairs; however, an editor ( User:Shsauer) attempted to add this as a ref that Steve Sauer designed the chairs. As Oixio is a site run by Steve Sauer, we would need other reliable sources to add that information. As it stands, searching "steve sauer" and chipotle returns 5 results. The ref provided does not pass WP:RS, and unless a better source can be cited, the information should be omitted. Angryapathy ( talk) 16:39, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
There's a brief section that mentions that every store displays a photo of the original. This is not true. The original store has a photo of the previous Dolly Maddison that occupied the space and no photo of itself. Further, other stores (at least the one at 333 East Alameda, Denver) do not have a photo of the original store. I think it's a shame that a "news" article which claims this common myth is used as an authoritative source. Should I take some video of walking around these two stores to become a source for this fact? greggles ( talk) 02:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I have no trouble believing that Greggles is correct. Why would they take a picture of the first store and put it inside that same store? Makes no sense. -- C S ( talk) 22:00, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The list says that only the carnitas and beans are made at a central location. When I worked there, tortillas were not made in-house and barbacoa came pre-made in a bag that was heated up just like the Carnitas. Has that changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.13.60 ( talk) 21:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Chipotle does not make those items in-house. It's a poorly written statement in the article. "Nearly all the food is made in-house except..." Well, it doesn't say all of the food, which would mean there are other items. Thay happen to be tortillas and carnitas. Those who are reverting, you can continue to have incorrect information in the article if you want. But to make such an unnecessary and dogmatic statement in the article from a poorly written statement that leaves many possibilities is poor judgement. It seems difficult to find a source on this, probably because Chipotle doesn't go around shouting "Our tortillas are made in a factory!" I did find a message board that says as much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyPiersall ( talk • contribs)
I'm aware a message board is not a source. That is why I did not post it. But the statement in the article verifies nothing. The statement does not need to be in the article. That's great about all the BS, but it's wrong information. The statement in the article is like I said, poorly written. But that wasn't addressed. I would say just remove the statement about the food. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyPiersall ( talk • contribs) 18:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
That looks pretty good. I like the wording. Thanks for reasoning with me. JimmyPiersall ( talk) 18:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Rumor has it that Chipotle will open a restaurant in Paris. Is there any proof? Bozketa ( talk) 23:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
details please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.251.144.15 ( talk) 23:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
As I have explained in the past, this section should be as concise as possible. This article is about Chipotle Mexican Grill, and the CIW issue is a very small part of Chipotle. We should take care to state the facts and not give WP:UNDUE to the information. I believe the information could be greatly expanded upon in the CIW article, since the CIW is the one who finds issue with Chipotle, not the other way around. Angryapathy ( talk) 17:57, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Contributors to this article might be interested in assisting with the expansion of The Scarecrow (2013 film), a promotional film by Chipotle that has received a lot of press coverage. Please feel free to contribute! -- Another Believer ( Talk) 02:47, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
For the advertising segment, would it be better organized to put it in chronological order to see the progression of the advertisement over the years? BlackBetty27 ( talk) 21:26, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
So breakfast has changed a bit http://www.foodbusinessnews.net/articles/news_home/Food-Service-Retail/2013/04/Chipotle_for_breakfast.aspx?ID=%7B39D2A95C-C9A7-4057-B4FF-B441AD8FFA97%7D&cck=1 So the article is out of date — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.131.42.0 ( talk) 23:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
So I just realized that this article doesn't mention ShopHouse, a venture that CMG started in 2011. It still only has a few locations, but it's got a number of sources discussing the openings, and has at least one mention on the company website. The problem is, I don't think it has the notability to be a separate page, but this article seems to be more about the actual Chipotle restaurants than the company itself. Any ideas about where this info should go?
Bpmcneilly ( talk) 21:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/chipotle-pork_n_6466350.html?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=Green Please use if you'd like. Thanks, Bananasoldier ( talk) 01:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
The 'Menu' section currently includes this statement:
The cited source ( BuzzFeed) makes this pretty clear: the Chipotle Communications Director was interviewed and denied this is a part of any official menu or training, but rather a custom request that some customers have made. His quote: “If you go into a Chipotle and order one, more likely than not, you will be met with a blank stare.” This ceases to be an "urban legend" once the company has formally denied it, and as it's not an official menu item, secret or not, I don't think it has any place on this page. If we listed every item you could potentially specially-request at every restaurant chain our articles would have no end.
Done Walkersam ( talk) 18:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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