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"far-left" to describe Junto Podemos Mas can be considered pejorative. In Chilean political discourse the neutral term used is most often "extra-parliamentary left". The latter is used both by the parties of the left outside the CPD coalition and by officialist sources.
Estimado, B1mbo, la foto que sigues poniendo de Piñera es estéticamente inadecuada para el artículo en cuestión, te lo he dicho ya en innumerables oportunidades. Por favor no insistas. Pristino ( talk) 03:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Can you move this discssion to the talk page of the page? Agreements on thing that have turned into an edit "conflict" should be developed in the talk page of the article not as private 1-1 agreements. Dentren | Talk 01:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Let me be conside I see it as following:
As I said before, Piñera's image is the official picture of his campaign. Would you change, for example, File:Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg for File:Obama Rally in Pittsburgh 2008.3.28.jpg in Barack Obama article just because someone said you have to look in a particular way? I don't see why the look of Piñera is so important, especially when two other candidates aren't looking straignt (not in the angle of Piñera but in any case, not straight). It's just a matter of common sense and an application of WP:IMAGE; the image of Piñera looking straight isn't bad when you have no other picture but in this case, certainly isn't the best option. -- B1mbo ( talk) 16:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC) PD: Besides, Piñera looking to Frei and Frei looking to Piñera is a very interesting composition of images :P
I've looked all over (Flickr, Google Images, PIñera's official website) for a recent, good quality color photo of Piñera smiling at the camera, but all of the good photos are either low quality (small size) or under a license incompatible with Wikimedia Commons. I think the Image:File:Piñera crop.jpg photo is superior for the sole reason that it shows a clear, unobstructed view of Piñera's face. The campaign photo might be of a higher quality but it only partially shows his face. Until we find a better photo I think this is the best we have right now. Pristino ( talk) 04:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Third Opinion: I agree with both B1mbo and Dentren. The reason I do is based on the following process of thought:
If the argument continues, and after having established a discussion and gathered consensus, this should be reported in the edit warring page.-- MarshalN20 | Talk 03:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted Neon Sky's poll figures in the first infobox to the original ones. I will tell briefly why I think the previous figures are better than the ones Neon Sky posted.
The CEP poll (whose numbers are used in the infobox) has two ways of asking people for their candidate of choice in a runoff scenario:
The original infobox poll figures used the results from method B, because it mimicks how people actually vote in the election, giving a more reliable result.
Furthermore, the original figures only included the results from the subgroup of registered voters, not the total sample. (In Chile, only those persons registered to vote can actually vote in the election.)
In short, the original infobox figures showed the results from registered voters using the ballot-box voting method. Neon Sky's figures showed the results from the total sample (which includes non-registered persons) using the non-secret voting method. Pristino ( talk) 22:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It may seem trivial but is it not better to have the map in its vertical position to place north at the top? Few people can look at this map and know whether left is east or west. I know space is a problem but does anyone object? Evlekis ( talk) 11:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
The link New Majority link under the photo of Marco Enríquez-Ominami leads to a TV-series, not to a party. I don't know how to correct that. Please excuse my bad English, it is not my mother tongue 80.109.143.123 ( talk) 18:41, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
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"far-left" to describe Junto Podemos Mas can be considered pejorative. In Chilean political discourse the neutral term used is most often "extra-parliamentary left". The latter is used both by the parties of the left outside the CPD coalition and by officialist sources.
Estimado, B1mbo, la foto que sigues poniendo de Piñera es estéticamente inadecuada para el artículo en cuestión, te lo he dicho ya en innumerables oportunidades. Por favor no insistas. Pristino ( talk) 03:24, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Can you move this discssion to the talk page of the page? Agreements on thing that have turned into an edit "conflict" should be developed in the talk page of the article not as private 1-1 agreements. Dentren | Talk 01:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Let me be conside I see it as following:
As I said before, Piñera's image is the official picture of his campaign. Would you change, for example, File:Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg for File:Obama Rally in Pittsburgh 2008.3.28.jpg in Barack Obama article just because someone said you have to look in a particular way? I don't see why the look of Piñera is so important, especially when two other candidates aren't looking straignt (not in the angle of Piñera but in any case, not straight). It's just a matter of common sense and an application of WP:IMAGE; the image of Piñera looking straight isn't bad when you have no other picture but in this case, certainly isn't the best option. -- B1mbo ( talk) 16:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC) PD: Besides, Piñera looking to Frei and Frei looking to Piñera is a very interesting composition of images :P
I've looked all over (Flickr, Google Images, PIñera's official website) for a recent, good quality color photo of Piñera smiling at the camera, but all of the good photos are either low quality (small size) or under a license incompatible with Wikimedia Commons. I think the Image:File:Piñera crop.jpg photo is superior for the sole reason that it shows a clear, unobstructed view of Piñera's face. The campaign photo might be of a higher quality but it only partially shows his face. Until we find a better photo I think this is the best we have right now. Pristino ( talk) 04:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Third Opinion: I agree with both B1mbo and Dentren. The reason I do is based on the following process of thought:
If the argument continues, and after having established a discussion and gathered consensus, this should be reported in the edit warring page.-- MarshalN20 | Talk 03:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I have reverted Neon Sky's poll figures in the first infobox to the original ones. I will tell briefly why I think the previous figures are better than the ones Neon Sky posted.
The CEP poll (whose numbers are used in the infobox) has two ways of asking people for their candidate of choice in a runoff scenario:
The original infobox poll figures used the results from method B, because it mimicks how people actually vote in the election, giving a more reliable result.
Furthermore, the original figures only included the results from the subgroup of registered voters, not the total sample. (In Chile, only those persons registered to vote can actually vote in the election.)
In short, the original infobox figures showed the results from registered voters using the ballot-box voting method. Neon Sky's figures showed the results from the total sample (which includes non-registered persons) using the non-secret voting method. Pristino ( talk) 22:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It may seem trivial but is it not better to have the map in its vertical position to place north at the top? Few people can look at this map and know whether left is east or west. I know space is a problem but does anyone object? Evlekis ( talk) 11:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
The link New Majority link under the photo of Marco Enríquez-Ominami leads to a TV-series, not to a party. I don't know how to correct that. Please excuse my bad English, it is not my mother tongue 80.109.143.123 ( talk) 18:41, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
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