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I have noticed that someone has been changing the sub-section headings in the transportation section into simple bold text. I assume that this is an attempt to shorten the TOC, however I think it would be better for the article to have a consistent format. Also, this method of heading sections seems to violate the Manual of style, which is supposed to be a standard for all articles. I have changed the bold text back to headings pending further discussion. -- Gpyoung talk 23:38, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of a Turkish immigrant population in Chicago? If so, where? 119 02:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
See my message on your talk page. Dralwik 01:41, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
While Daley is obviously a democrat, city elections are officially non-partisan. Does this fact deserve some mention? Tedernst 20:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I removed the following: All precincts of the city voted for Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. I verified the contrary at the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners website. For example, in the 50th ward where I live, precinct #s 25,40,41,44,45 voted for Bush over Kerry. It's true that all wards voted Democratic in both elections. 67.39.182.69 00:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I made the above edit, didn't realize I wasn't logged in. WBcoleman 00:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The article calls the machine the Chicago Democratic Machine. Isn't the proper term Chicago Regular Democratic Organization? WBcoleman 04:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Where the DuPage County, Illinois page talks about a small part of O'Hare that is in Chicago also being in Dupage has a link to a Maqquest map that doesn't say anything. We need to find a citeable reference for this. This referece is the basis of the Chicago page showing Dupage as well as Cook. -- User:Tedernst
Is this reference cited in the article? Seems to me it should be. Tedernst 16:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
The point is that I deleted the link to Dupage because I didn't realize it was true. If there had been a reference, I might've followed up on it and not caused the problem. Someone then figured out it was my mistake and I'm asking for someone to update the page so some unsuspecting person in the future doesn't do this again. I don't have time to update the page. Tedernst 07:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
"Despite its prosperity and reputation as a safe city..." That's funny - I never knew Chicago had such a reputation. Can anyone site a source for this? SINGLES' BAR mitzvah 00:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone provide a reference to the origin of the name of Chicago. In some areas it is referenced as meaning 'wild onions' or 'skunk' and in the Early Days section of the main article it says "Garlic not onions" or "skunk."
Jasenlee 00:00, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
As a Chicagoan, I've heard the phrase "Chicago, City of Neighborhoods"; perhaps the article can go into further depth about the various neighborhoods in Chicago: Chinatown; the Indian restaurants along Devon avenue; the gay and lesbian neighborhoods, etc.
Is this earthquake section necessary at all? You could mention a blurb of it in the climate part (about the fault line) but other than that it is irrelevant as all it did was cause a desk to vibrate. Otherwise we should include blizzards and other natural occurances that are not necessary as well.
The information in the people and culture section of this article is really informative. Does anyone know where to get information about the numbers of Asian Indians, Asian Pakistanis, Chinese people in Chicago? I will be more than happy to add that info to the article once I find it. doles 16:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Why on earth does Chicago redirect to Chicago, Illinois instead of visa-versa? Answar 23:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
One might want to adopt the style of the Associated Press. The AP Stylebook lists cities that stand alone (without state names) in datelines, such as CHICAGO -- , PARIS -- , and LONDON --. DavidH 16:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
It would be cool to add an image of the Y-Shaped city symbol. I've seen it on some street traffic control boxes, but I don't have a picture.
The symbol is described in the muni code at: http://cpl.lib.uic.edu/004chicago/chiy.html
-- Tiger Marc 06:31, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I suggest the History section should focus on essentials, allowing for a long and more useful separate History article. Rjensen 23:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
A minor earthquake which wasn't epicentered in Chicago really doesn't deserve as much prominence as it ha sbeen given in this article. Shsilver 14:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I placed a formal request to move the article's name under the supposition that Chicago is a world-class city — that is almost without doubt. If you object to moving the article, please list votes and reasons here. Thanks! -- Rob 18:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Not moved. — Nightstallion (?) 14:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
A new proposal that would have the effect of moving this page to "Chicago" is being voted on at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (city names). - Will Beback 18:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Why do we need multiple archive pages? Shouldn't there jsut be one? Jasenlee 03:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Why is the New Eastside community missing from -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_areas_of_Chicago This is the area bounded by Michigan, Randolph, the River, and the Lake. (or Lake Shore Drive). http://forums.new-eastside.com
I know that plenty of people who are not native speakers of English will pronounce Chicago by starting it with "chi" as in "chin". Should we put a pronunciation guide like the one in Illinois? -- KittySaturn 23:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, Columbia College desperately needs expansion and cleanup. For being the largest arts and communication school, and for its significant downtown presence, the article could use some help. Please vote for it or go to the article and go to town! -- Un sogno modesto 20:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Sitting here on a rainy Chicago day in January, I find that the National Weather Service lists the following seasonal "normal" precipitation figures (in inches): Spring (Mar-May), 9.36; Summer, 11.76; Fall, 8.99; Winter, 5.81 (total=35.92). [ [3] -- DS1953 talk 22:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I moved the following statement, They have one of the best and most loyal fanbases in all sports. here from the Cubs entry under Sports because this kind of statement can only be used when it is reporting someone's opinion. Cite a verifiable source for this statement, and it can go back in. -- Dalbury( Talk) 22:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
What's wrong with this link? * Ethnic population of the Chicago Metropolitan Area
You can also add something about the Sears Tower. ( Hpetwe 20:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC))
I'm using this page as a guide while doing the Quincy, Illinois page. That said, the Attractions subsection there that I know I don't like in its current state doesn't seem to exist in the Chicago page right now. What would be the best practice for including something like that? — Rob ( talk) 19:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I changed the infobox image from Image:Chiacgoskyline2005.jpg to Image:Chitown jc01.jpg. I realize this is probably not the best image to use, but the former image is about to be deleted for lack of copyright/source information. Please feel free to replace with a free use image. Thanks. howch e ng { chat} 23:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
There have been a number of recent edits with information that is, at the risk of coming off badly, patently incorrect. I already fixed the area codes (I'll include links to NANPA later if necessary), and there are a number of other areas that need to be ammended. I don't have handy research on all of them so it will take some time, but I am going to immediately address (of all things) the deep dish pizza section. Lou Malnati's did not create deep dish pizza, and certainly did not popularize it prior to Pizzeria Uno, since the first Lou Malnati's opened in 1971. Rudy Malnati did, however, work at the place that deep dish pizza was invented (Uno). Perhaps he was the one who invented it while there, though even Malnati's own website doesn't make that strong a claim (it says that he "helped" create it). I am going to edit/revert accordingly. Links supporting this: http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Pizza/PizzaHistory.htm, http://members.cox.net/jjschnebel/ddishpiz.html, http://www.foodreference.com/html/artdeepdishpizza.html, and http://www.loumalnatis.com/about/about.html. Babel17 21:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I have fixed the pizza section, though I probably need to clean up my own sentences as I've been working in a bit of a rush and they don't have the best possible flow. I put in a bit of information on stuffed pizza and Chicago-style thin crust. Similar information is in the Chicago Cuisine article. I felt it was relvant to mention in the main article because the difference in pizza to be had in Chicago as compared with the rest of the country definitely goes well beyond Uno's. (In fact, speaking from anecdotal evidence, as a native I know more Chicagoans who eat stuffed or thin crust pizza than "deep dish" in the Uno's sense. Also to be noted, many people mis-identify what is actually stuffed pizza as deep dish due to the similarity.) That was a lot to say on the subject of pizza, but I suppose I'm feeling verbose at the moment. :) At any rate, if anyone so desires, feel free to clean up my edits for style if I don't get to it first. Thanks. Babel17 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Enough is enough. The cliquish nature of the editing on this article, and the almost nonstop power playing by the well connected few are no secret. There is nothing even remotely NPOV about this article; when an entire category (local image galleries) keeps vanishing purely based on Jasonlee's individual personal preferences, and actual historical events (the Arctic express winter of 1981-2) can't even be mentioned because one of the in-kids living in Florida hasn't heard of it, NPOV has been gutted and left out for the scavengers. I could say something about some of the racial business in some of the related articles, but I think I've made my point.
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 7 |
Archives: Sep 2005 - Feb 2006
I have noticed that someone has been changing the sub-section headings in the transportation section into simple bold text. I assume that this is an attempt to shorten the TOC, however I think it would be better for the article to have a consistent format. Also, this method of heading sections seems to violate the Manual of style, which is supposed to be a standard for all articles. I have changed the bold text back to headings pending further discussion. -- Gpyoung talk 23:38, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone aware of a Turkish immigrant population in Chicago? If so, where? 119 02:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
See my message on your talk page. Dralwik 01:41, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
While Daley is obviously a democrat, city elections are officially non-partisan. Does this fact deserve some mention? Tedernst 20:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I removed the following: All precincts of the city voted for Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. I verified the contrary at the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners website. For example, in the 50th ward where I live, precinct #s 25,40,41,44,45 voted for Bush over Kerry. It's true that all wards voted Democratic in both elections. 67.39.182.69 00:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I made the above edit, didn't realize I wasn't logged in. WBcoleman 00:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The article calls the machine the Chicago Democratic Machine. Isn't the proper term Chicago Regular Democratic Organization? WBcoleman 04:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Where the DuPage County, Illinois page talks about a small part of O'Hare that is in Chicago also being in Dupage has a link to a Maqquest map that doesn't say anything. We need to find a citeable reference for this. This referece is the basis of the Chicago page showing Dupage as well as Cook. -- User:Tedernst
Is this reference cited in the article? Seems to me it should be. Tedernst 16:05, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
The point is that I deleted the link to Dupage because I didn't realize it was true. If there had been a reference, I might've followed up on it and not caused the problem. Someone then figured out it was my mistake and I'm asking for someone to update the page so some unsuspecting person in the future doesn't do this again. I don't have time to update the page. Tedernst 07:41, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
"Despite its prosperity and reputation as a safe city..." That's funny - I never knew Chicago had such a reputation. Can anyone site a source for this? SINGLES' BAR mitzvah 00:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone provide a reference to the origin of the name of Chicago. In some areas it is referenced as meaning 'wild onions' or 'skunk' and in the Early Days section of the main article it says "Garlic not onions" or "skunk."
Jasenlee 00:00, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
As a Chicagoan, I've heard the phrase "Chicago, City of Neighborhoods"; perhaps the article can go into further depth about the various neighborhoods in Chicago: Chinatown; the Indian restaurants along Devon avenue; the gay and lesbian neighborhoods, etc.
Is this earthquake section necessary at all? You could mention a blurb of it in the climate part (about the fault line) but other than that it is irrelevant as all it did was cause a desk to vibrate. Otherwise we should include blizzards and other natural occurances that are not necessary as well.
The information in the people and culture section of this article is really informative. Does anyone know where to get information about the numbers of Asian Indians, Asian Pakistanis, Chinese people in Chicago? I will be more than happy to add that info to the article once I find it. doles 16:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Why on earth does Chicago redirect to Chicago, Illinois instead of visa-versa? Answar 23:14, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
One might want to adopt the style of the Associated Press. The AP Stylebook lists cities that stand alone (without state names) in datelines, such as CHICAGO -- , PARIS -- , and LONDON --. DavidH 16:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
It would be cool to add an image of the Y-Shaped city symbol. I've seen it on some street traffic control boxes, but I don't have a picture.
The symbol is described in the muni code at: http://cpl.lib.uic.edu/004chicago/chiy.html
-- Tiger Marc 06:31, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I suggest the History section should focus on essentials, allowing for a long and more useful separate History article. Rjensen 23:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
A minor earthquake which wasn't epicentered in Chicago really doesn't deserve as much prominence as it ha sbeen given in this article. Shsilver 14:01, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I placed a formal request to move the article's name under the supposition that Chicago is a world-class city — that is almost without doubt. If you object to moving the article, please list votes and reasons here. Thanks! -- Rob 18:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Not moved. — Nightstallion (?) 14:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
A new proposal that would have the effect of moving this page to "Chicago" is being voted on at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (city names). - Will Beback 18:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Why do we need multiple archive pages? Shouldn't there jsut be one? Jasenlee 03:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Why is the New Eastside community missing from -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_areas_of_Chicago This is the area bounded by Michigan, Randolph, the River, and the Lake. (or Lake Shore Drive). http://forums.new-eastside.com
I know that plenty of people who are not native speakers of English will pronounce Chicago by starting it with "chi" as in "chin". Should we put a pronunciation guide like the one in Illinois? -- KittySaturn 23:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone, Columbia College desperately needs expansion and cleanup. For being the largest arts and communication school, and for its significant downtown presence, the article could use some help. Please vote for it or go to the article and go to town! -- Un sogno modesto 20:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Sitting here on a rainy Chicago day in January, I find that the National Weather Service lists the following seasonal "normal" precipitation figures (in inches): Spring (Mar-May), 9.36; Summer, 11.76; Fall, 8.99; Winter, 5.81 (total=35.92). [ [3] -- DS1953 talk 22:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I moved the following statement, They have one of the best and most loyal fanbases in all sports. here from the Cubs entry under Sports because this kind of statement can only be used when it is reporting someone's opinion. Cite a verifiable source for this statement, and it can go back in. -- Dalbury( Talk) 22:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
What's wrong with this link? * Ethnic population of the Chicago Metropolitan Area
You can also add something about the Sears Tower. ( Hpetwe 20:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC))
I'm using this page as a guide while doing the Quincy, Illinois page. That said, the Attractions subsection there that I know I don't like in its current state doesn't seem to exist in the Chicago page right now. What would be the best practice for including something like that? — Rob ( talk) 19:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I changed the infobox image from Image:Chiacgoskyline2005.jpg to Image:Chitown jc01.jpg. I realize this is probably not the best image to use, but the former image is about to be deleted for lack of copyright/source information. Please feel free to replace with a free use image. Thanks. howch e ng { chat} 23:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
There have been a number of recent edits with information that is, at the risk of coming off badly, patently incorrect. I already fixed the area codes (I'll include links to NANPA later if necessary), and there are a number of other areas that need to be ammended. I don't have handy research on all of them so it will take some time, but I am going to immediately address (of all things) the deep dish pizza section. Lou Malnati's did not create deep dish pizza, and certainly did not popularize it prior to Pizzeria Uno, since the first Lou Malnati's opened in 1971. Rudy Malnati did, however, work at the place that deep dish pizza was invented (Uno). Perhaps he was the one who invented it while there, though even Malnati's own website doesn't make that strong a claim (it says that he "helped" create it). I am going to edit/revert accordingly. Links supporting this: http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Pizza/PizzaHistory.htm, http://members.cox.net/jjschnebel/ddishpiz.html, http://www.foodreference.com/html/artdeepdishpizza.html, and http://www.loumalnatis.com/about/about.html. Babel17 21:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I have fixed the pizza section, though I probably need to clean up my own sentences as I've been working in a bit of a rush and they don't have the best possible flow. I put in a bit of information on stuffed pizza and Chicago-style thin crust. Similar information is in the Chicago Cuisine article. I felt it was relvant to mention in the main article because the difference in pizza to be had in Chicago as compared with the rest of the country definitely goes well beyond Uno's. (In fact, speaking from anecdotal evidence, as a native I know more Chicagoans who eat stuffed or thin crust pizza than "deep dish" in the Uno's sense. Also to be noted, many people mis-identify what is actually stuffed pizza as deep dish due to the similarity.) That was a lot to say on the subject of pizza, but I suppose I'm feeling verbose at the moment. :) At any rate, if anyone so desires, feel free to clean up my edits for style if I don't get to it first. Thanks. Babel17 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Enough is enough. The cliquish nature of the editing on this article, and the almost nonstop power playing by the well connected few are no secret. There is nothing even remotely NPOV about this article; when an entire category (local image galleries) keeps vanishing purely based on Jasonlee's individual personal preferences, and actual historical events (the Arctic express winter of 1981-2) can't even be mentioned because one of the in-kids living in Florida hasn't heard of it, NPOV has been gutted and left out for the scavengers. I could say something about some of the racial business in some of the related articles, but I think I've made my point.