Hello, I'll be performing this GA review. I'll make uncontroversial copyedits as I read the article and leave comments here in a day or two.
Sasata (
talk) 16:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)reply
I added a bunch of links and made some minor copyedits, but overall the article looks very good and is well-written. I have some suggestions and questions:
Most of these you linked were unlinked to avoid duplication. I've corrected some of your links, including those to papyrus: in Africa, not all papyruses are Cyperus papyrus, there is the dwarf papyrus etc, etc—so the link is to
Cyperus —
innotata (
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"The breeding male's legs and feet are pale horn." ? confused.. is horn a color?
Yes, horn is a colour. There are no pages on it yet, but it is mentioned in many bird articles.
Is there an adequate synonym? I suspect most non-bird fans will not know what it means; I wasn't able to find a description in a short online search.
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
For my own edification, can you describe the color?
Sasata (
talk) 20:47, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Not really. A lot of birds have horn legs. I've asked Jimfbleak if he can help. —
innotata (
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Jim says "pale grey", but that is not entirely satisfactory to me. Should this discussion be archived now? —
innotata (
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Pale grey is much more accessible descriptor than a color name that most casual readers won't know, or even be able to look up in a dictionary. How about mentioning it parenthetically on first use?
Sasata (
talk) 16:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC) (feel free to archive this discussion)reply
what do you think about putting the taxonomy section first, likemost other bird GA/FA's?
I prefer putting the description first, as in a good deal of
User:Jimfbleak's articles which I referred to on style considerations. the description is the most basic information on the species.
any subspecies?
None, one—Sorella eminibey guasso— proposed by G. L. G. Van Someren in 1922, no further info. Does this merit inclusion?
I'll leave that up to you. Personally, I like reading about the taxonomic histories of various species.
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
do they build their nests preferentially in particular genera/species of trees?
Acacias, since they are most common in its range. Already hinted at as much brief mentions in sources allow.
threats? Do any other animals prey on this bird? Do they get parasites?
lifespan?
size/mass/color of the eggs?
any more info on natal and juvenile appearance? Are newborns covered with down? Is juvenile plumage similar to the adult?
I've included the juvenile plumage, but I can't find anything about nestlings, eggs (besides clutch size), lifespan, predators, disease or parasites. This may be published, but if so only in multi-volume works on East Africa's birds I can't get ahold of. I'll borrow whatever books on East Africa's birds I can find at my public library to see if I can add anything.
I'll be back later to check citations and sources.
Sasata (
talk) 17:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)\reply
I've made the little replies above. --—
innotata (
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Sources look good, and a database check shows there's not a lot published about the species in the academic literature. I see no reason not to promote the article now, as I think it easily meets the GA criteria below (but please describe "horn").
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Hello, I'll be performing this GA review. I'll make uncontroversial copyedits as I read the article and leave comments here in a day or two.
Sasata (
talk) 16:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)reply
I added a bunch of links and made some minor copyedits, but overall the article looks very good and is well-written. I have some suggestions and questions:
Most of these you linked were unlinked to avoid duplication. I've corrected some of your links, including those to papyrus: in Africa, not all papyruses are Cyperus papyrus, there is the dwarf papyrus etc, etc—so the link is to
Cyperus —
innotata (
Talk •
Contribs) 19:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
"The breeding male's legs and feet are pale horn." ? confused.. is horn a color?
Yes, horn is a colour. There are no pages on it yet, but it is mentioned in many bird articles.
Is there an adequate synonym? I suspect most non-bird fans will not know what it means; I wasn't able to find a description in a short online search.
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
For my own edification, can you describe the color?
Sasata (
talk) 20:47, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Not really. A lot of birds have horn legs. I've asked Jimfbleak if he can help. —
innotata (
Talk •
Contribs) 20:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Jim says "pale grey", but that is not entirely satisfactory to me. Should this discussion be archived now? —
innotata (
Talk •
Contribs) 15:41, 31 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Pale grey is much more accessible descriptor than a color name that most casual readers won't know, or even be able to look up in a dictionary. How about mentioning it parenthetically on first use?
Sasata (
talk) 16:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC) (feel free to archive this discussion)reply
what do you think about putting the taxonomy section first, likemost other bird GA/FA's?
I prefer putting the description first, as in a good deal of
User:Jimfbleak's articles which I referred to on style considerations. the description is the most basic information on the species.
any subspecies?
None, one—Sorella eminibey guasso— proposed by G. L. G. Van Someren in 1922, no further info. Does this merit inclusion?
I'll leave that up to you. Personally, I like reading about the taxonomic histories of various species.
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
do they build their nests preferentially in particular genera/species of trees?
Acacias, since they are most common in its range. Already hinted at as much brief mentions in sources allow.
threats? Do any other animals prey on this bird? Do they get parasites?
lifespan?
size/mass/color of the eggs?
any more info on natal and juvenile appearance? Are newborns covered with down? Is juvenile plumage similar to the adult?
I've included the juvenile plumage, but I can't find anything about nestlings, eggs (besides clutch size), lifespan, predators, disease or parasites. This may be published, but if so only in multi-volume works on East Africa's birds I can't get ahold of. I'll borrow whatever books on East Africa's birds I can find at my public library to see if I can add anything.
I'll be back later to check citations and sources.
Sasata (
talk) 17:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)\reply
I've made the little replies above. --—
innotata (
Talk •
Contribs) 17:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Sources look good, and a database check shows there's not a lot published about the species in the academic literature. I see no reason not to promote the article now, as I think it easily meets the GA criteria below (but please describe "horn").
Sasata (
talk) 20:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply