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We have the size of the watershed, but how many square miles is the bay? -- Palnatoke 07:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Watch out for these, I found several cases where the common noun "bay" was capitalized as "Bay". Only proper nouns such as "Chesapeake Bay" should be capitalized. I fixed as many as I could find but there may be some more left, please fix any you find. -Jeff (talk) 03:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Is the word "the" really needed? I realize people use the word "the" for placenames like the Gulf of Mexico, or the Atlantic Ocean, or often for rivers, like the Mississippi River. But I can't recall it being used for Chesapeake Bay, or other inlets, bays, like Puget Sound, Albemarle Sound, Hudson Bay, San Francisco Bay, etc. The phrase "the Chesapeake Bay" sounds odd to me, but I'm not from the area -- is it really the common usage there? Pfly 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
It is definitely "The Bay" or "The Chesapeake Bay" or even just "The Chesapeake" if you are from around here. Trust me that if you came here and kept saying "Chesapeake Bay" locals would know know you weren't from here (likewise, if you try to correct them not to say "the", it would not go over very well!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.92.60 ( talk) 23:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I know I'm coming along years after this issue seems to have been settled, but I think a distinction needs to be made in the article between local usage and usage among Americans in general. Although it may be true that among locals Chesapeake Bay is "almost always preceded by the article the," that is not true among Americans in general. I grew up in Tennessee, and I never heard anybody call it "the Chesapeake Bay." Admittedly we didn't talk about it as much as people who live near it would, but we studied it in school, where our textbooks called it simply Chesapeake Bay. This is the kind of thing that needs more reliable attribution than simply "that's how we say it around here." If someone can supply an authoritative source that supports the "almost always" claim as applying to Americans in general, then I will eat my words and drop out of the discussion. But for now I'm going to add a phrase attributing that usage to locals, removing the implication that it reflects general American usage. I have already requested a citation supporting the claim, which I will leave in place for now.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 19:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
The article stated that the bridge tunnel connected to Norfolk. The bridge tunnel article along with my personal knowledge contradicts this. I've never actually edited an article before but I went ahead and did it, if I should have done things differently please someone let me know. Tmckeage 23:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
This seems to be a problem. I have found at least four different values, all of them given by reasonably good sources. The two best numbers appear to be 21 feet (including tributaries) and 30 feet (possibly the main section only); I've also see figures of 6/6.5 meters and 25 feet.
I think we're going to have to qualify the numbers given. It's hard to imagine that these are particularly precise numbers anyway. Mangoe ( talk) 00:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I think it's worth noting the discovery in 1995 that Chesapeake Bay may have been formed in part due to a meteor impact [2]. Big T ( talk) 22:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I am not American and I would like some guide as to how to pronounce Chesapeake? -- Gak ( talk) 14:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The Algonquians topic indicates that they were widespread - but Northern in the current sense. Nothing about Mississippi comes to light. Sipi could be (a) a borrowed word, (b) some outpost of Algonquians, or (c) pure coincidence. A scholarly source would help. Tedickey ( talk) 20:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering if sharks or alligators occur in the Bay? I figure that there almost definitely has to be sharks in there since it is at least some degree of brackish or saltwater in most parts and even the bull shark can potentially go into its fresh water parts. About the alligators, I figure that it's really not that far from the alligator's natural occurring range and alligators are in-fact much hardier creatures than most people realize, in addition to the warmer winters we've supposedly been having. I don't really think a gator would wonder that far out of gator territory (which as I said before isn't really that terribly far) on it's own accord but I would not be surprised if idiots have released gators and those gators could somehow find each other (and if they are opposite sexes) that they could survive and make a small breeding pocket. Any info on this or am I way out in left field with this question? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.42.16 ( talk) 07:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
...needs a serious working over. It's such a huge topic I wouldn't know where to start; maybe needs to be a summary referring to many separate articles. And is the focus of this article the Bay itself, or the entire drainage basin/watershed? Bardobro ( talk) 17:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Susquehanna article gives age of river as ~300 Ma. This article says river valley formed 35 Ma as result of extra-terrestrial impact. The large apparent discrepancy needs clarification. Jhall251 ( talk) 01:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Support:
Comments:
Superlatives always require a reliable source. Terms such as "massive", which are at best colloquial, and use a secondary meaning are not encyclopedic. TEDickey ( talk) 08:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Which is correct in sentences/names: "... of the Chesapeake Bay" or just "... of Chesapeake Bay" ? Why? Where from? Hmains ( talk) 16:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
In hydrology where they are listing the salinity, they are using ppt (as in parts per thousand). This is a deprecated term as ppt now generally refers to parts per trillion. To remove ambiguity, the ppt should be change to per mil (‰) or it should be converted to percent (%).
KW 73.213.29.16 ( talk) 14:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
I just removed the following claim from the lede paragraph:
The estuary of Saint Lawrence is certainly in North America and is much larger than the Chesapeake Bay; sources there and in related articles say it is the largest estuary in the world.
Perhaps the sentence in the lede here was supposed to say "United States" instead of "North America," but the source does say "North America," and that seems clearly incorrect. — Bkell ( talk) 04:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
References
I removed the statement about the Chesapeake Bay being in the District of Columbia. That is incorrect, as the Bay is nowhere near the District. The District is in the watershed / drainage basin, but that is all. The same is true for Delaware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southern Marylander ( talk • contribs) 13:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
We have the size of the watershed, but how many square miles is the bay? -- Palnatoke 07:16, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Watch out for these, I found several cases where the common noun "bay" was capitalized as "Bay". Only proper nouns such as "Chesapeake Bay" should be capitalized. I fixed as many as I could find but there may be some more left, please fix any you find. -Jeff (talk) 03:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Is the word "the" really needed? I realize people use the word "the" for placenames like the Gulf of Mexico, or the Atlantic Ocean, or often for rivers, like the Mississippi River. But I can't recall it being used for Chesapeake Bay, or other inlets, bays, like Puget Sound, Albemarle Sound, Hudson Bay, San Francisco Bay, etc. The phrase "the Chesapeake Bay" sounds odd to me, but I'm not from the area -- is it really the common usage there? Pfly 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
It is definitely "The Bay" or "The Chesapeake Bay" or even just "The Chesapeake" if you are from around here. Trust me that if you came here and kept saying "Chesapeake Bay" locals would know know you weren't from here (likewise, if you try to correct them not to say "the", it would not go over very well!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.92.60 ( talk) 23:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
I know I'm coming along years after this issue seems to have been settled, but I think a distinction needs to be made in the article between local usage and usage among Americans in general. Although it may be true that among locals Chesapeake Bay is "almost always preceded by the article the," that is not true among Americans in general. I grew up in Tennessee, and I never heard anybody call it "the Chesapeake Bay." Admittedly we didn't talk about it as much as people who live near it would, but we studied it in school, where our textbooks called it simply Chesapeake Bay. This is the kind of thing that needs more reliable attribution than simply "that's how we say it around here." If someone can supply an authoritative source that supports the "almost always" claim as applying to Americans in general, then I will eat my words and drop out of the discussion. But for now I'm going to add a phrase attributing that usage to locals, removing the implication that it reflects general American usage. I have already requested a citation supporting the claim, which I will leave in place for now.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 19:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
The article stated that the bridge tunnel connected to Norfolk. The bridge tunnel article along with my personal knowledge contradicts this. I've never actually edited an article before but I went ahead and did it, if I should have done things differently please someone let me know. Tmckeage 23:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
This seems to be a problem. I have found at least four different values, all of them given by reasonably good sources. The two best numbers appear to be 21 feet (including tributaries) and 30 feet (possibly the main section only); I've also see figures of 6/6.5 meters and 25 feet.
I think we're going to have to qualify the numbers given. It's hard to imagine that these are particularly precise numbers anyway. Mangoe ( talk) 00:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I think it's worth noting the discovery in 1995 that Chesapeake Bay may have been formed in part due to a meteor impact [2]. Big T ( talk) 22:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I am not American and I would like some guide as to how to pronounce Chesapeake? -- Gak ( talk) 14:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
The Algonquians topic indicates that they were widespread - but Northern in the current sense. Nothing about Mississippi comes to light. Sipi could be (a) a borrowed word, (b) some outpost of Algonquians, or (c) pure coincidence. A scholarly source would help. Tedickey ( talk) 20:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Just wondering if sharks or alligators occur in the Bay? I figure that there almost definitely has to be sharks in there since it is at least some degree of brackish or saltwater in most parts and even the bull shark can potentially go into its fresh water parts. About the alligators, I figure that it's really not that far from the alligator's natural occurring range and alligators are in-fact much hardier creatures than most people realize, in addition to the warmer winters we've supposedly been having. I don't really think a gator would wonder that far out of gator territory (which as I said before isn't really that terribly far) on it's own accord but I would not be surprised if idiots have released gators and those gators could somehow find each other (and if they are opposite sexes) that they could survive and make a small breeding pocket. Any info on this or am I way out in left field with this question? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.42.16 ( talk) 07:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
...needs a serious working over. It's such a huge topic I wouldn't know where to start; maybe needs to be a summary referring to many separate articles. And is the focus of this article the Bay itself, or the entire drainage basin/watershed? Bardobro ( talk) 17:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Susquehanna article gives age of river as ~300 Ma. This article says river valley formed 35 Ma as result of extra-terrestrial impact. The large apparent discrepancy needs clarification. Jhall251 ( talk) 01:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
Support:
Comments:
Superlatives always require a reliable source. Terms such as "massive", which are at best colloquial, and use a secondary meaning are not encyclopedic. TEDickey ( talk) 08:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Which is correct in sentences/names: "... of the Chesapeake Bay" or just "... of Chesapeake Bay" ? Why? Where from? Hmains ( talk) 16:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
In hydrology where they are listing the salinity, they are using ppt (as in parts per thousand). This is a deprecated term as ppt now generally refers to parts per trillion. To remove ambiguity, the ppt should be change to per mil (‰) or it should be converted to percent (%).
KW 73.213.29.16 ( talk) 14:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
I just removed the following claim from the lede paragraph:
The estuary of Saint Lawrence is certainly in North America and is much larger than the Chesapeake Bay; sources there and in related articles say it is the largest estuary in the world.
Perhaps the sentence in the lede here was supposed to say "United States" instead of "North America," but the source does say "North America," and that seems clearly incorrect. — Bkell ( talk) 04:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
References
I removed the statement about the Chesapeake Bay being in the District of Columbia. That is incorrect, as the Bay is nowhere near the District. The District is in the watershed / drainage basin, but that is all. The same is true for Delaware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southern Marylander ( talk • contribs) 13:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)