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Why are we losing the photograph? We've has been through this before. We can use the parliament photographs legally and the only impediments are zealots and puritans. Why can't one of these wikiwonks go and hunt up Cheryl and take a picture of her before demanding that we get rid of the only one we can legally use? Sheesh. -- Pete 02:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I dispute the neutrality of this article: much of it seems to be a character attack on the subject, and there doesn't seem to be any references to back up the claims. Recurring dreams 05:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
As the author of recent potentially controversial material, I was partly acting in response to extant copy which one-sidedly idealised Kernot. There is nothing in my contribution which has not been widely reported in Australian news media or which cannot be sourced to documents including Senate Hansard. Cheryl Kernot and Meg Lees both demonstrably pursued inappropriate connections with the major political parties. Aeronian 04:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, cj, I appreciate the cited rules, also the special difficulties with biography of living persons, and will therefore gladly accept responsible editing of unverifiable material. This must apply equally to both "negative" and "positive" statements. I will rigorously support future contributions with verifying documentation and will expect to see the same standard adopted by all contributors. Aeronian 06:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi does anyone have a good reference for her affair with a (ex?) student? I've done a bit of googling but I can't find a good reliable source. -- Surturz ( talk) 06:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Wollumbinmountain ( talk) 10:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I was a student at Church of England Grammar and always will regret not getting private tuition from Cheryl, who taught me. Cheryl was hot and the inspiration for many boys lust.
Wollumbinmountain ( talk) 10:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot missing from this article, there's nothing on her daughter (Sian from memory, not sure of spelling), or her marriages (at least two, not sure if she's still with her second husband), her maiden name (Paton/Paten from memory, it's been a while since I read her biography), where she grew up, her grandfather who was a member of the Labor Party, her brother who was jailed for rape etc. Should there be a section on her personal life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.140.245 ( talk) 09:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
I've Reverted the Bold change here. This strikes me as editorialising and unsourced whitewashing.
Kernot didn't "move" from the Democrats to Labor, as if it were some routine transfer. She defected in one of the most controversial political stories of that year. [1] [2]
Kernot's interview with Oakes in which he challenged her over the five year long affair with Gareth Evans was because she had omitted this story from her "full and frank" autobiography. Oakes, like the rest of the Press Gallery, had known of the affair but kept quiet about it as standard practice. It was only when she demonstrated hypocrisy by purporting to tell all in her book that Oakes felt it was now a legitimate story. I have not seen any source alleging that the interview rather than the book was "full and frank"
Kernot's win in Dickson was indeed narrow. In fact, she thought at first that she had lost the seat, leading to her live election night dummy spit. She had a 50.12% share of the 2PP vote. [3]
Wikipedia is a full and frank encyclopaedia, and this sort of whitewashing does us no favours. -- Pete ( talk) 02:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
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Why are we losing the photograph? We've has been through this before. We can use the parliament photographs legally and the only impediments are zealots and puritans. Why can't one of these wikiwonks go and hunt up Cheryl and take a picture of her before demanding that we get rid of the only one we can legally use? Sheesh. -- Pete 02:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I dispute the neutrality of this article: much of it seems to be a character attack on the subject, and there doesn't seem to be any references to back up the claims. Recurring dreams 05:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
As the author of recent potentially controversial material, I was partly acting in response to extant copy which one-sidedly idealised Kernot. There is nothing in my contribution which has not been widely reported in Australian news media or which cannot be sourced to documents including Senate Hansard. Cheryl Kernot and Meg Lees both demonstrably pursued inappropriate connections with the major political parties. Aeronian 04:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, cj, I appreciate the cited rules, also the special difficulties with biography of living persons, and will therefore gladly accept responsible editing of unverifiable material. This must apply equally to both "negative" and "positive" statements. I will rigorously support future contributions with verifying documentation and will expect to see the same standard adopted by all contributors. Aeronian 06:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi does anyone have a good reference for her affair with a (ex?) student? I've done a bit of googling but I can't find a good reliable source. -- Surturz ( talk) 06:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Wollumbinmountain ( talk) 10:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I was a student at Church of England Grammar and always will regret not getting private tuition from Cheryl, who taught me. Cheryl was hot and the inspiration for many boys lust.
Wollumbinmountain ( talk) 10:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot missing from this article, there's nothing on her daughter (Sian from memory, not sure of spelling), or her marriages (at least two, not sure if she's still with her second husband), her maiden name (Paton/Paten from memory, it's been a while since I read her biography), where she grew up, her grandfather who was a member of the Labor Party, her brother who was jailed for rape etc. Should there be a section on her personal life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.140.245 ( talk) 09:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
I've Reverted the Bold change here. This strikes me as editorialising and unsourced whitewashing.
Kernot didn't "move" from the Democrats to Labor, as if it were some routine transfer. She defected in one of the most controversial political stories of that year. [1] [2]
Kernot's interview with Oakes in which he challenged her over the five year long affair with Gareth Evans was because she had omitted this story from her "full and frank" autobiography. Oakes, like the rest of the Press Gallery, had known of the affair but kept quiet about it as standard practice. It was only when she demonstrated hypocrisy by purporting to tell all in her book that Oakes felt it was now a legitimate story. I have not seen any source alleging that the interview rather than the book was "full and frank"
Kernot's win in Dickson was indeed narrow. In fact, she thought at first that she had lost the seat, leading to her live election night dummy spit. She had a 50.12% share of the 2PP vote. [3]
Wikipedia is a full and frank encyclopaedia, and this sort of whitewashing does us no favours. -- Pete ( talk) 02:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
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