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Reviewer: Farang Rak Tham ( talk · contribs) 18:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Before starting this review, I'd like to state that I have little knowledge about Christianity nor its history. I have once watched a Youtube video about the suppression of monasteries under Henry VIII, and discovered many similarities with the history of Buddhism.
No problem. Nmclough ( talk) 20:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm not fluent on wikipedia MOS, etc, and some terminology, but will refer to Wikipedia help, or ask for clarification. First I will work through the items below sequentially. Having more eyes on the prose and style is good! This is my first GA nomination by the way. Nmclough ( talk) 20:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have assessed the article at B now.
Are there any "tags" you could insert to identify the complex sentences? Nmclough ( talk) 23:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Nevermind, I addressed few instances. Maybe more todo. Nmclough ( talk) 00:03, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Oh yeah, I addressed some interpunction too, using Grammerly (which malfunctions badly in wikipedia edit mode). Nmclough ( talk) 00:13, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have addressed some of this. Need time to consider what MOS fixes are needed Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed two broken links. Nmclough ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Please help identify this sentence. I understood one stated goal in Wikipedia was that, over time, inter-article wiki-linking would help alleviate some requirement on sources. For example if an FA article supported a sentence, and was wiki-linked, can this satisfy the concern? Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
The "Murianus Magranyll" recorded as Prior of Mohill in 1397 and 1412 was probably his great-grandfather.[d]To be fair, there is only one such instance, but it needs fixing anyway: please find an external source, possibly from the other Wiki article you are referring to.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:31, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
This is OR, to be removed. Nmclough ( talk) 14:46, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed, OR removed. Nmclough ( talk) 18:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have fixed two unsourced notes few days ago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Charles_Reynolds_(cleric)&diff=825688757&oldid=825676117). Nmclough ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have removed one unsourced, and unnecessary, note. This is fixed imho. Nmclough ( talk) 00:08, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Reynolds appears forgotten until recently. Only two sources (Manning 2010 paper, Byrne 2002 historical society talk) discuss his gravestone. Manning's 2010 paper marks the effective rediscovery of Reynolds. Ellis 1976 is only source for papal meeting. His impact might emerge over time, but I am cautious here. His biography is immature. Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Update, I have broken the related script into two sections. Might assist the reader in this respect. The privledge of burial at St John Latern in Rome suggests a big impact on Pope, but it's OR to suggest this. Nmclough ( talk) 00:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Are there any "Tags" you could insert into the article for these?
Nevermind, I have removed some obvious interpolations from "Revolt.." section. Nmclough ( talk) 00:07, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have addressed interpolations to keep article focus. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The only pictures available are of his grave-slab. His category on commons reflects same issue. :-( Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I took these photos in Rome. One B+W photo of his grave slab exists in http://sources.nli.ie/Record/PS_UR_096161/Holdings. Nothing else. Nmclough ( talk) 14:55, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I used commons potraits of Pope, Henry, Charles, and an illustration of the rebellion. Nmclough ( talk) 18:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing up pictures. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I will continue with a detailed review per section. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries.
* Though not a problem for GA, there are many duplicate wikilinks in the main body of article, that is
Kildare, etc. Use
this tool to identify them.
Done. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
despite being already dead.Bit confusing. Better rephrase as although he died in...
Fixed. thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
The inscription gives accurate dates for his birth in Ireland (1496 or 1497), his death in Rome (July 1535), and gives his father's name as Maurus, allowing us to establish the family background, and provides further evidence of his ability in revealing the pope was about to consecrate him a Bishop.: This sentence is very complex. First of all, allowing us is a form of editorializing not used much on Wikipedia. Secondly, it is not quite clear what ability in the next sentence refers to. Split the sentences and rewrite please.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 09:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Agreed!! See my effort to simplify. Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I added the excessive cite notice to this section. Also, on this talk page, for WP Catholicism I added the assessment criteria which is usually posted when an article reaches class=C status. Regards, — JoeHebda • ( talk) 14:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I added the excessive cite notice to this section.: which section, JoeHebda?
Reynolds was born and reared in ... Ardagh.Too long. Please split off.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
but no evidence is presented to support the claim.: I have not been able to trace this statement. If Manning or the dictionary doesn't specifically state this, it constitutes original research and must be removed. There is really no need for such evidence, since the dictionary is a reliable source by itself, judging from the editors and publisher. If necessary, you could say that "the dictionary only states..." to indicate it does not expand on this detail.
Manning states this, I remember that clearly. Will fix. Nmclough ( talk) 14:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Mâg Raghnaill,
Mac Raghnailland
Mhég Raghnaill. Choose either one, or if being faithful to the sources is an issue, explain that they are alternative spellings of the same surname.
Fixed. I chose the variant in Manning 2010 over my preferred variant ;-) Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The Canons Regular was one of several institutions...: Specify whether you mean the Canons Regular in general, or the Canons regular of St. Augustine.
Fixed. Augustine! Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
A certain "Murianus Magranyll", recorded as Prior of Mohill in 1397 and 1412, was probably his great-grandfather.As stated above, you need to cite the original source, not the Wiki article.
This is OR, to be removed. Nmclough ( talk) 14:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed. OR removed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The fact the Mâg Raghnaills were allied to the Kildare camp must have contributed to his being given preferment with the church.Reads more smoothly if you use more verbs.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The alliance the Mac Raghnaill were allied to the Kildare camp must have contributed to his being given preferment with the church.
Absolutely better (Too tired). Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Master Charles Reynolds graduated around 1531, being described as "Bachelor of Laws" on securing a grant of English liberty which declared him a subject of English law entitled to acquire land and property.Too complex, split off.
Master Charles Reynolds...remove honorific per WP:HONORIFICS.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
It still is in there, but in retrospect, considering that you merely trying to say that he graduated, I am okay with it.--
Farang Rak Tham
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08:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Parochial and international politics interconnected in the shape...: An unusual sentence, please rephrase.
Fixed. removed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I usually include page numbers in sfn block. But will check. Nmclough ( talk) 14:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed I think. This was likely 'Annals of Ulster|Connacht (celt edition)' and I pulled the page numbers for two citations. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Attempted this. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The political situation in Ireland and England was fraught...This is an informal British expression. You need to write fraught with... to make it written language.
Changed to 'fraught with tension over the english reformation'. Nmclough ( talk)
You done this. Thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Henry's doctrinal changes: not explained yet. Though wikilinked in the term English reformation, it should also be expanded inline.
... of his aunt, Catherine of Aragon.: Specify whether she is Charles' or Henry's aunt, to improve readability.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Thomas Cromwell, chief minister to the King, ... imprisoned the incumbent Gerald Fitzgerald.: Shortly explain why.
Actually I attempted to simplify whilst addressing the "focus" comment. Please check if okay. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Charles V of Spain: First you just wrote " Charles V". To improve the accessibility of the article, I'd suggest you choose one name.
Thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I speculate he travelled via Ravenna to Rome, or was taken into care by The cardinal in Rome. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
His full name is Doctor Pedro Ortiz according to Ellis 1976. He's notable but has no wikipedia page. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
damnation of so many souls: strictly speaking is not encyclopedic tone, so better add quotes.
Irish cause: This has been implied in the text, but not explained very clearly yet. Please do.
in failing to prevent Archbishop Alen being murdered.: This event should be mentioned earlier in the article. Reynolds' suspicions should perhaps also be mentioned earlier.
... which had been suspended.: Please include reason, if known.
the week after Thomas More was executed: how is this relevant?
Fixed/Removed. Its was perhaps a footnote re. executions of English dissidents that summer. More and Fisher were the most notable. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
one day before the Pope was to appoint him Bishop ...: Strange coincidence. No scholar comments on this?
Hmm, I have not seen scholar comments on the interesting coincidence. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Its an term used in Manning 2010. https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/glossary/allantica Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The top of the slab is lost through the lower portions of two incised armorial shields retain the Saltire of the Fitzgeralds, and hind legs of a lion rampant, associated with the arms of the MacRannell or Reynolds family.Complex and long. Please split off or simplify.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
It records that he was ... endowed in mind and body with many gifts: Implies a fact, rather than opinion. Rephrase.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
From an Irish perspective, the grave slab is unique and very notable by itself, especially considering the contexts. Would prefer to retain text. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I have now made a detailed assessment of the entire article. Most of the points can easily be fixed. If you can go through it this weekend, that would be best, but if not, then I will put the review on hold for another seven days. After that, I need to wrap it up.
I wanted to finish with two final points of improvement:
1. with regard to the quote boxes: these should also mention the historical sources, and not only the modern work in which those sources featured.
There is only one quote box left. I added indication of quotation origin. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
2. There may be a few points not included in the article yet.
This source, pages 85 and 86, explains why Reynolds and other Kildare developed a resistance to the English reformation ideas. I think you have been very extensive in your research efforts, and comprehensive, so the article is certainly broad enough.
Your discovery of this source is intriguing. I have incorporate an explanation into the article from page 86 (for now). Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Good luck with the article! I am sure you will be finished in no time.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 18:25, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your dedication, interest, and time. It feels now a good article (to me) after your input!! Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
There are still a few comments left, mostly pertaining to a better understanding of the article's text. There is also the Cotton reference, that cannot be traced to any source. Don't worry if you cannot fix it all today though, I'll prolong the review for another week.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 08:17, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Farang Rak Tham ( talk · contribs) 18:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Before starting this review, I'd like to state that I have little knowledge about Christianity nor its history. I have once watched a Youtube video about the suppression of monasteries under Henry VIII, and discovered many similarities with the history of Buddhism.
No problem. Nmclough ( talk) 20:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm not fluent on wikipedia MOS, etc, and some terminology, but will refer to Wikipedia help, or ask for clarification. First I will work through the items below sequentially. Having more eyes on the prose and style is good! This is my first GA nomination by the way. Nmclough ( talk) 20:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have assessed the article at B now.
Are there any "tags" you could insert to identify the complex sentences? Nmclough ( talk) 23:28, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Nevermind, I addressed few instances. Maybe more todo. Nmclough ( talk) 00:03, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Oh yeah, I addressed some interpunction too, using Grammerly (which malfunctions badly in wikipedia edit mode). Nmclough ( talk) 00:13, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have addressed some of this. Need time to consider what MOS fixes are needed Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed two broken links. Nmclough ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Please help identify this sentence. I understood one stated goal in Wikipedia was that, over time, inter-article wiki-linking would help alleviate some requirement on sources. For example if an FA article supported a sentence, and was wiki-linked, can this satisfy the concern? Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
The "Murianus Magranyll" recorded as Prior of Mohill in 1397 and 1412 was probably his great-grandfather.[d]To be fair, there is only one such instance, but it needs fixing anyway: please find an external source, possibly from the other Wiki article you are referring to.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:31, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
This is OR, to be removed. Nmclough ( talk) 14:46, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed, OR removed. Nmclough ( talk) 18:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have fixed two unsourced notes few days ago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Charles_Reynolds_(cleric)&diff=825688757&oldid=825676117). Nmclough ( talk) 23:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I have removed one unsourced, and unnecessary, note. This is fixed imho. Nmclough ( talk) 00:08, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Reynolds appears forgotten until recently. Only two sources (Manning 2010 paper, Byrne 2002 historical society talk) discuss his gravestone. Manning's 2010 paper marks the effective rediscovery of Reynolds. Ellis 1976 is only source for papal meeting. His impact might emerge over time, but I am cautious here. His biography is immature. Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Update, I have broken the related script into two sections. Might assist the reader in this respect. The privledge of burial at St John Latern in Rome suggests a big impact on Pope, but it's OR to suggest this. Nmclough ( talk) 00:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Are there any "Tags" you could insert into the article for these?
Nevermind, I have removed some obvious interpolations from "Revolt.." section. Nmclough ( talk) 00:07, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I have addressed interpolations to keep article focus. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The only pictures available are of his grave-slab. His category on commons reflects same issue. :-( Nmclough ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I took these photos in Rome. One B+W photo of his grave slab exists in http://sources.nli.ie/Record/PS_UR_096161/Holdings. Nothing else. Nmclough ( talk) 14:55, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I used commons potraits of Pope, Henry, Charles, and an illustration of the rebellion. Nmclough ( talk) 18:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing up pictures. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I will continue with a detailed review per section. Feel free to insert replies or inquiries.
* Though not a problem for GA, there are many duplicate wikilinks in the main body of article, that is
Kildare, etc. Use
this tool to identify them.
Done. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
despite being already dead.Bit confusing. Better rephrase as although he died in...
Fixed. thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
The inscription gives accurate dates for his birth in Ireland (1496 or 1497), his death in Rome (July 1535), and gives his father's name as Maurus, allowing us to establish the family background, and provides further evidence of his ability in revealing the pope was about to consecrate him a Bishop.: This sentence is very complex. First of all, allowing us is a form of editorializing not used much on Wikipedia. Secondly, it is not quite clear what ability in the next sentence refers to. Split the sentences and rewrite please.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 09:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Agreed!! See my effort to simplify. Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I added the excessive cite notice to this section. Also, on this talk page, for WP Catholicism I added the assessment criteria which is usually posted when an article reaches class=C status. Regards, — JoeHebda • ( talk) 14:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Nmclough ( talk) 00:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
I added the excessive cite notice to this section.: which section, JoeHebda?
Reynolds was born and reared in ... Ardagh.Too long. Please split off.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:35, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
but no evidence is presented to support the claim.: I have not been able to trace this statement. If Manning or the dictionary doesn't specifically state this, it constitutes original research and must be removed. There is really no need for such evidence, since the dictionary is a reliable source by itself, judging from the editors and publisher. If necessary, you could say that "the dictionary only states..." to indicate it does not expand on this detail.
Manning states this, I remember that clearly. Will fix. Nmclough ( talk) 14:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Mâg Raghnaill,
Mac Raghnailland
Mhég Raghnaill. Choose either one, or if being faithful to the sources is an issue, explain that they are alternative spellings of the same surname.
Fixed. I chose the variant in Manning 2010 over my preferred variant ;-) Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The Canons Regular was one of several institutions...: Specify whether you mean the Canons Regular in general, or the Canons regular of St. Augustine.
Fixed. Augustine! Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
A certain "Murianus Magranyll", recorded as Prior of Mohill in 1397 and 1412, was probably his great-grandfather.As stated above, you need to cite the original source, not the Wiki article.
This is OR, to be removed. Nmclough ( talk) 14:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed. OR removed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The fact the Mâg Raghnaills were allied to the Kildare camp must have contributed to his being given preferment with the church.Reads more smoothly if you use more verbs.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The alliance the Mac Raghnaill were allied to the Kildare camp must have contributed to his being given preferment with the church.
Absolutely better (Too tired). Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Master Charles Reynolds graduated around 1531, being described as "Bachelor of Laws" on securing a grant of English liberty which declared him a subject of English law entitled to acquire land and property.Too complex, split off.
Master Charles Reynolds...remove honorific per WP:HONORIFICS.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
It still is in there, but in retrospect, considering that you merely trying to say that he graduated, I am okay with it.--
Farang Rak Tham
(Talk)
08:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Parochial and international politics interconnected in the shape...: An unusual sentence, please rephrase.
Fixed. removed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I usually include page numbers in sfn block. But will check. Nmclough ( talk) 14:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Fixed I think. This was likely 'Annals of Ulster|Connacht (celt edition)' and I pulled the page numbers for two citations. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Attempted this. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The political situation in Ireland and England was fraught...This is an informal British expression. You need to write fraught with... to make it written language.
Changed to 'fraught with tension over the english reformation'. Nmclough ( talk)
You done this. Thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Henry's doctrinal changes: not explained yet. Though wikilinked in the term English reformation, it should also be expanded inline.
... of his aunt, Catherine of Aragon.: Specify whether she is Charles' or Henry's aunt, to improve readability.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Thomas Cromwell, chief minister to the King, ... imprisoned the incumbent Gerald Fitzgerald.: Shortly explain why.
Actually I attempted to simplify whilst addressing the "focus" comment. Please check if okay. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Charles V of Spain: First you just wrote " Charles V". To improve the accessibility of the article, I'd suggest you choose one name.
Thanks. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I speculate he travelled via Ravenna to Rome, or was taken into care by The cardinal in Rome. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
His full name is Doctor Pedro Ortiz according to Ellis 1976. He's notable but has no wikipedia page. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
damnation of so many souls: strictly speaking is not encyclopedic tone, so better add quotes.
Irish cause: This has been implied in the text, but not explained very clearly yet. Please do.
in failing to prevent Archbishop Alen being murdered.: This event should be mentioned earlier in the article. Reynolds' suspicions should perhaps also be mentioned earlier.
... which had been suspended.: Please include reason, if known.
the week after Thomas More was executed: how is this relevant?
Fixed/Removed. Its was perhaps a footnote re. executions of English dissidents that summer. More and Fisher were the most notable. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
one day before the Pope was to appoint him Bishop ...: Strange coincidence. No scholar comments on this?
Hmm, I have not seen scholar comments on the interesting coincidence. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Its an term used in Manning 2010. https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/glossary/allantica Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
The top of the slab is lost through the lower portions of two incised armorial shields retain the Saltire of the Fitzgeralds, and hind legs of a lion rampant, associated with the arms of the MacRannell or Reynolds family.Complex and long. Please split off or simplify.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
It records that he was ... endowed in mind and body with many gifts: Implies a fact, rather than opinion. Rephrase.
Fixed. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
From an Irish perspective, the grave slab is unique and very notable by itself, especially considering the contexts. Would prefer to retain text. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
I have now made a detailed assessment of the entire article. Most of the points can easily be fixed. If you can go through it this weekend, that would be best, but if not, then I will put the review on hold for another seven days. After that, I need to wrap it up.
I wanted to finish with two final points of improvement:
1. with regard to the quote boxes: these should also mention the historical sources, and not only the modern work in which those sources featured.
There is only one quote box left. I added indication of quotation origin. Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
2. There may be a few points not included in the article yet.
This source, pages 85 and 86, explains why Reynolds and other Kildare developed a resistance to the English reformation ideas. I think you have been very extensive in your research efforts, and comprehensive, so the article is certainly broad enough.
Your discovery of this source is intriguing. I have incorporate an explanation into the article from page 86 (for now). Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Good luck with the article! I am sure you will be finished in no time.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 18:25, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your dedication, interest, and time. It feels now a good article (to me) after your input!! Nmclough ( talk) 02:16, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
There are still a few comments left, mostly pertaining to a better understanding of the article's text. There is also the Cotton reference, that cannot be traced to any source. Don't worry if you cannot fix it all today though, I'll prolong the review for another week.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 08:17, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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