A fact from Charles Redd appeared on Wikipedia's
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The result was: promoted by
Cielquiparle (
talk) 13:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Created by Cjstirlbyu ( talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image eligibility:
QPQ: - Not done
Overall:
The ALT0 hook is interesting and cited, but the article clearly needs a lot of work.
Sounder
Bruce 06:24, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have to reopen what's already a long discussion, but I don't believe this is in fit state for the main page. I happened to spot-check a random sentence, and found the sources didn't remotely support the content; I then did five more spot-checks of sources I could access, and only one of them was completely okay. I don't know if this is carelessness, too many people working on the article, or sources shoehorned in to address the lack of independent content raised above; but it needs to be fixed. Given the issues I've raised, I would not be comfortable featuring this until someone has done spot-checks and found no issues. Also: the hook is a bit of a problem. Redd didn't make racing illegal; he didn't have that authority. He proposed the bill which made it so, much as he proposed its legalization. Vanamonde ( Talk) 01:08, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
The arrangement of citations in the first paragraph under "utah state legislature" did not make it clear which information came from where. The Arrington bio, on page 125, states: "He had several definite objectives upon first taking office in 1925: getting legislation that would raise the per capita school fund tax in order to benefit rural school districts; reorganizing the way bounty claims were paid by the state; and getting the state to allocate funds for road construction in San Juan county." (p. 125). There are some close paraphrasing issues--I have tried to quickly reword. Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 21:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
In checking the sources on the horse-racing paragraph, I found that several sentences and at least one paragraph of Leonard Arrington's chapter on Redd's legislative years were copied from Westergren article. I am, to put it mildly, disappointed. I removed the Arrington references from that paragraph in favor of the Westergren article (which is all the better for verifiability, since Westergren's article is currently available online). Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 22:57, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
A fact from Charles Redd appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 2 March 2023 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The
Wikimedia Foundation's
Terms of Use require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see
WP:PAID. For advice about reviewing paid contributions, see
WP:COIRESPONSE.
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The result was: promoted by
Cielquiparle (
talk) 13:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Created by Cjstirlbyu ( talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
Hook eligibility:
Image eligibility:
QPQ: - Not done
Overall:
The ALT0 hook is interesting and cited, but the article clearly needs a lot of work.
Sounder
Bruce 06:24, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have to reopen what's already a long discussion, but I don't believe this is in fit state for the main page. I happened to spot-check a random sentence, and found the sources didn't remotely support the content; I then did five more spot-checks of sources I could access, and only one of them was completely okay. I don't know if this is carelessness, too many people working on the article, or sources shoehorned in to address the lack of independent content raised above; but it needs to be fixed. Given the issues I've raised, I would not be comfortable featuring this until someone has done spot-checks and found no issues. Also: the hook is a bit of a problem. Redd didn't make racing illegal; he didn't have that authority. He proposed the bill which made it so, much as he proposed its legalization. Vanamonde ( Talk) 01:08, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
The arrangement of citations in the first paragraph under "utah state legislature" did not make it clear which information came from where. The Arrington bio, on page 125, states: "He had several definite objectives upon first taking office in 1925: getting legislation that would raise the per capita school fund tax in order to benefit rural school districts; reorganizing the way bounty claims were paid by the state; and getting the state to allocate funds for road construction in San Juan county." (p. 125). There are some close paraphrasing issues--I have tried to quickly reword. Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 21:13, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
In checking the sources on the horse-racing paragraph, I found that several sentences and at least one paragraph of Leonard Arrington's chapter on Redd's legislative years were copied from Westergren article. I am, to put it mildly, disappointed. I removed the Arrington references from that paragraph in favor of the Westergren article (which is all the better for verifiability, since Westergren's article is currently available online). Rachel Helps (BYU) ( talk) 22:57, 9 January 2023 (UTC)