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Is there any particular reason why the category "GLBT persons" or whatever it is for gays and lesbians isn't listed here? It's no secret that he's gay. I will add it unless there's some criterion for inclusion that I'm not aware of. Moncrief 02:34, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)
I will chime in again with "it's no secret." The LA Times had an article on May 5, 2002 that referenced "Patrick Hughes, a set decorator-dresser and Reilly's companion of nearly 21 years." His MySpace page (I'm not kidding, http://www.myspace.com/charlesnelsonreilly, and it's linked from his latest project) notes that he's "in a relationship." Jaidit 16:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why including the date of Reilly's death is considered "vandalism". This article is incomplete otherwise. Segan3900 19:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Moving this here for discussion:
Setting aside the unsourced last sentence, I don't know if this is necessary in an encyclopedia article. Thoughts? Jokestress 03:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I have classified this article as a start for the Bio project similar to its LGBT rating. It needs more sourcing. Capitalistroadster 06:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
How can he be listed as having a "spouse"? He has a homosexual partner, not a spouse. His partner could only be classified as a spouse if he were legally married in some jurisdiction, and possibly then only if the jurisdiction in which he resided recognized that marriage. I don't see any references that indicate he was married. Living with someone of the same sex does not make that person his spouse. Even a civil union would not make his partner his spouse. Does anyone have a reference indicating he was legally married? If not, the infobox needs to be changed. Talmage 01:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
hmmm.....my only concern is whether a separate but equal concession is really progress. -- emerson7 | Talk 00:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
For Wikipedia purposes, it is not relevant as to what he could be called, it is only relevant what WP:RS generally called him (if anything). If they generally called him "spouse" then he is spouse for purposes of the article. If they generlly called him "partner," the he is partner in the Wikipedia article. If there is little to no mention of his relationship to Riley in WP:RS, then the answers obvious, he shouldn't be mentioned in the article. By placing the burden on WP:RS, we can avoid injecting our personal beliefs in the article content. -- Jreferee 18:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I trust that this issue is resolved -- that one can now (retroactively) speak of "spouses" not "partners" -- and that all the legalistic strategies designed to deny recognition to 27-year old life partnerships/marriages can be discarded. Just say the obvious in 2022. Chesspride
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I would hope there is a slightly better photo, if anyone has energy please see what's available. Benjiboi 17:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this is worthy of inclusion, so I thought I should post it here for feedback. There is a song by the dead milkmen entitled "Serrated Edge" CNR features prominently, even equating him with Jesus. The lyrics are posted here: http://www.geocities.com/dmtabs/lyrics/biglizardinmybackyard.txt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.151.235.142 ( talk) 04:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure of the provenance of this. Reilly's experience at the Hartford Circus Fire, and subsequent lifelong refusal to sit in an audiences is properly noted. On Match Game he sat in the upper corner because of this aversion to sitting in crowds. He felt more comfortable there than in the front row or between people. Randall Bart Talk 19:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm seeing a number of random sites that make the claim that he was in the 1973 Charlotte's Web, but I can't anything concrete as to what role he played. The relationship is not currently listed on imdb's entries for any of the Charlotte's Web adaptations. Without seeing a screenshot of the film credits, it makes me wonder if it isn't a perpetuated mistake. - Verdatum ( talk) 22:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I looked up the cast and crew for Charlotte's Web and he wasn't on it. I think someone may have him mixed up with Paul Lynde who voiced the part of the Rat, Templeton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.28.129.10 ( talk) 20:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't know why further discussion is needed. The former poster is correct. Templeton was Paul Lynde. None of the sites dedicated to the movie (imdb or otherwise) indicate he was in the movie. So it should be removed. Period. TheKurgan ( talk) 15:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
In the infobox, it states "Partner(s) Patrick Hughes III (1980–2007; his death)". Unfortunately, due to a failing of the English language, "his death" is ambiguous in this case (Both Charles and Patrick could be described by "his"). Is there a practical alternative?-- 173.58.199.176 ( talk) 20:54, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I think Mr. Reilly's work as an Opera Director is understated here. That is a major function for an individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:9036:4B4:7D3:EE02 ( talk) 03:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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The article currently states that after surviving the Hartford Circus Fire, "... he never sat in an audience again throughout the remainder of his life. Because of the event's trauma, he rarely attended theater, stating that the large crowds reminded him of what happened that day." (Emphasis added.) Never, or rarely? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:53, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The article goes on a bit too long about his toupee, making it sound like a loosely held secret. Reilly appeared in several productions in the 1960s without it. In fact he was bald on screen for the entire run of The Ghost and Mrs. Muir except for scenes in which his character attempted to wear a toupee and was comically foiled by the captain. It should be more clearly indicated that he affected the toupee in the late 60s and abandoned it in the 90s, but that it was never really a secret that he was bald. Canonblack ( talk) 17:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
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Is there any particular reason why the category "GLBT persons" or whatever it is for gays and lesbians isn't listed here? It's no secret that he's gay. I will add it unless there's some criterion for inclusion that I'm not aware of. Moncrief 02:34, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)
I will chime in again with "it's no secret." The LA Times had an article on May 5, 2002 that referenced "Patrick Hughes, a set decorator-dresser and Reilly's companion of nearly 21 years." His MySpace page (I'm not kidding, http://www.myspace.com/charlesnelsonreilly, and it's linked from his latest project) notes that he's "in a relationship." Jaidit 16:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why including the date of Reilly's death is considered "vandalism". This article is incomplete otherwise. Segan3900 19:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Moving this here for discussion:
Setting aside the unsourced last sentence, I don't know if this is necessary in an encyclopedia article. Thoughts? Jokestress 03:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I have classified this article as a start for the Bio project similar to its LGBT rating. It needs more sourcing. Capitalistroadster 06:31, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
How can he be listed as having a "spouse"? He has a homosexual partner, not a spouse. His partner could only be classified as a spouse if he were legally married in some jurisdiction, and possibly then only if the jurisdiction in which he resided recognized that marriage. I don't see any references that indicate he was married. Living with someone of the same sex does not make that person his spouse. Even a civil union would not make his partner his spouse. Does anyone have a reference indicating he was legally married? If not, the infobox needs to be changed. Talmage 01:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
hmmm.....my only concern is whether a separate but equal concession is really progress. -- emerson7 | Talk 00:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
For Wikipedia purposes, it is not relevant as to what he could be called, it is only relevant what WP:RS generally called him (if anything). If they generally called him "spouse" then he is spouse for purposes of the article. If they generlly called him "partner," the he is partner in the Wikipedia article. If there is little to no mention of his relationship to Riley in WP:RS, then the answers obvious, he shouldn't be mentioned in the article. By placing the burden on WP:RS, we can avoid injecting our personal beliefs in the article content. -- Jreferee 18:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I trust that this issue is resolved -- that one can now (retroactively) speak of "spouses" not "partners" -- and that all the legalistic strategies designed to deny recognition to 27-year old life partnerships/marriages can be discarded. Just say the obvious in 2022. Chesspride
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I would hope there is a slightly better photo, if anyone has energy please see what's available. Benjiboi 17:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this is worthy of inclusion, so I thought I should post it here for feedback. There is a song by the dead milkmen entitled "Serrated Edge" CNR features prominently, even equating him with Jesus. The lyrics are posted here: http://www.geocities.com/dmtabs/lyrics/biglizardinmybackyard.txt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.151.235.142 ( talk) 04:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure of the provenance of this. Reilly's experience at the Hartford Circus Fire, and subsequent lifelong refusal to sit in an audiences is properly noted. On Match Game he sat in the upper corner because of this aversion to sitting in crowds. He felt more comfortable there than in the front row or between people. Randall Bart Talk 19:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm seeing a number of random sites that make the claim that he was in the 1973 Charlotte's Web, but I can't anything concrete as to what role he played. The relationship is not currently listed on imdb's entries for any of the Charlotte's Web adaptations. Without seeing a screenshot of the film credits, it makes me wonder if it isn't a perpetuated mistake. - Verdatum ( talk) 22:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
I looked up the cast and crew for Charlotte's Web and he wasn't on it. I think someone may have him mixed up with Paul Lynde who voiced the part of the Rat, Templeton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.28.129.10 ( talk) 20:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't know why further discussion is needed. The former poster is correct. Templeton was Paul Lynde. None of the sites dedicated to the movie (imdb or otherwise) indicate he was in the movie. So it should be removed. Period. TheKurgan ( talk) 15:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
In the infobox, it states "Partner(s) Patrick Hughes III (1980–2007; his death)". Unfortunately, due to a failing of the English language, "his death" is ambiguous in this case (Both Charles and Patrick could be described by "his"). Is there a practical alternative?-- 173.58.199.176 ( talk) 20:54, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I think Mr. Reilly's work as an Opera Director is understated here. That is a major function for an individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:9036:4B4:7D3:EE02 ( talk) 03:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
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The article currently states that after surviving the Hartford Circus Fire, "... he never sat in an audience again throughout the remainder of his life. Because of the event's trauma, he rarely attended theater, stating that the large crowds reminded him of what happened that day." (Emphasis added.) Never, or rarely? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:53, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The article goes on a bit too long about his toupee, making it sound like a loosely held secret. Reilly appeared in several productions in the 1960s without it. In fact he was bald on screen for the entire run of The Ghost and Mrs. Muir except for scenes in which his character attempted to wear a toupee and was comically foiled by the captain. It should be more clearly indicated that he affected the toupee in the late 60s and abandoned it in the 90s, but that it was never really a secret that he was bald. Canonblack ( talk) 17:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)